now thats a hot ride

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now thats a hot ride

March 31, 2007, 06:27:32 PM

it was almost 80 today and i had to ride around with the heater wide open. :flame: one point i thought my shoe was melting from heat... please tell me that running the heater does help cooling the engine off. i mean when you seal it up (for a phone call) you can feel it get higher than fry your child. around that time the gears are shifting hard, slipping, even felt like the sweet spot of friction in 3rd got out around. but its wierd, i turn the heater on wide open and my gears come back.

how bout this, vote for the heater b/c its magical.
or smack it in the face

and tell me im wasting my time.

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Reply #1 – March 31, 2007, 06:33:24 PM

Quote from: Autocat;137553

it was almost 80 today and i had to ride around with the heater wide open. :flame: one point i thought my shoe was melting from heat... please tell me that running the heater does help cooling the engine off. i mean when you seal it up (for a phone call) you can feel it get higher than fry your child. around that time the gears are shifting hard, slipping, even felt like the sweet spot of friction in 3rd got out around. but its wierd, i turn the heater on wide open and my gears come back.

how bout this, vote for the heater b/c its magical.
or smack it in the face and tell me im wasting my time.

What?

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Reply #2 – March 31, 2007, 06:46:19 PM

When it's 80 degrees here,my heater stays off.If you need to cool your engine,there's other ways,like a new fan clutch,electric fan.coolant in the radiator,etc.Heat when it's 80?That's just insane.

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Reply #3 – March 31, 2007, 06:49:19 PM

the only time you might run the heater in that kind of weather is if the car is over-heating for whatever reason. it would be...silly otherwise, wouldnt it now?

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Reply #4 – March 31, 2007, 07:20:49 PM

yeh see here's the problem. im using ATF hose which carries more volume than the steel lines, and the radiator part is about as big as... well look at your monitor.

no bread in the bank right now, still trying to get school figured out, thats my main priority, i got the loan for any school basically for as much as i want to learn b/c nascar tech was EXPENSIVE. then a job and my car will prolly either be upgraded or stock.

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Reply #5 – March 31, 2007, 08:12:26 PM

Hose can be had for CHEAP.I understand you have no money,but if you can se up $5.00,you can have new hose.What I suppose I don't understand,is what you mean by all this.Didn't you say you are/were going to NASCAR tech?Surely you can help us understand a little better.

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Reply #6 – March 31, 2007, 09:43:29 PM

I just bought the Ford Racing hose kit (both radiator and all four heater hoses in blue silicone with clamps) for $100. Stock parts have got to be cheaper.

Hell, even if you have to pay $100, it's got to be worth not blowing your ride. And try real coolant instead of plain water.

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Reply #7 – March 31, 2007, 11:54:47 PM

Running the heat would help the engine cool but i dont think its going to help the trans fluid cool.

As far as the volume that the ATF cooler and cooler lines carry it shouldnt make a difference other than it might take more to fill the trans, unless there is a restriction on the cooler lines causing low pressure on the return line.

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Reply #8 – April 01, 2007, 12:00:47 AM

Woa.

If I understand correctly, your transmission starts slipping when you turn your heater off?

If so the only remote thing that I can this of is you mounted your trans cooler behind the radiator. So when the rad gets hot it heats the trans fluid and you got issues. By running the heat you increase the cooling of the engine keeping the rad a little cooler so the trans cooler does not get as hot and everything is ok.

Am I close?

Bryan

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Reply #9 – April 01, 2007, 12:44:35 AM

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yeh see here's the problem. im using ATF hose which carries more volume than the steel lines, and the radiator part is about as big as... well look at your monitor.

no bread in the bank right now, still trying to get school figured out, thats my main priority, i got the loan for any school basically for as much as i want to learn b/c nascar tech was EXPENSIVE. then a job and my car will prolly either be upgraded or stock.

never mind i remember you. scrounge up a few bucks or even go to the bone yard or something. maybe borrow a few bucks and just fix it right. dont be so cheep.

i assume this has something to do with you destroying your tranny.....

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Reply #10 – April 01, 2007, 09:26:24 AM

Quote from: Brypur;137589

Woa.

If I understand correctly, your transmission starts slipping when you turn your heater off?

If so the only remote thing that I can this of is you mounted your trans cooler behind the radiator. So when the rad gets hot it heats the trans fluid and you got issues. By running the heat you increase the cooling of the engine keeping the rad a little cooler so the trans cooler does not get as hot and everything is ok.

Am I close?

Bryan

x2 mount the trans cooler IN FRONT of everything. nothing wrong with using hose, if anything more volume is better, the radiator will better cool the ATF. just mount it in front of your a/c condenser (if you have a/c) so it gets fresh air.

you did the right thing to prevent overheating though. thats what ive been told many times. roll the windows down, open sunroof if you have one, and blast the heat fan at full speed, will help cool the engine off a little

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Reply #11 – April 01, 2007, 07:09:14 PM

i have the atf cooler mounted infront of the radiator, its in direct contact asside from little foam "feet". its close enough that with the engine running one bar cooler than normal i feel a great deal of diffrence in the transmission, the way it goes through gears and how the gears grab. its the wierdest thing, and the higher volume has made the shift point ARRATIC at best. and yes, this is the cheapest fix for a blown transmission. well basically destryoingly overheated with no fluid. to be honest it feels like there are sweet spots on the contact surfaces that are coming back around. the true heat i feel is causing the overheat of the trans is the only way to route the hose... past the exhaust. that and the size of the atf cooler is smallllll go to advance or whatever and ask to see thier transmission collant kit. you'll lose your eyes from how wide they get when you see how small the rad is.

i was going to nascar tech till the tranny blew, then attendance failed b/c i couldnt find a ride or barrow one. so now im back in Ga, couldnt figure out how to change the location on my posts.. but at any rate, i got enough money on my loan left to go through about 2 and a half years of griffin tech. thats what i gotta get figured out. electronic diagnostics 1&2, auto trans, advanced diagnostics are really all i need for my automotive assossiates, but im ganna go ahead and study geometry and welding for when i want to build my dream car.

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Reply #12 – April 01, 2007, 07:23:17 PM

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i got enough money on my loan left to go through about 2 and a half years of griffin tech.

Well thats a half year too long for an associate degree. Why dont you just change the trans and be done with it.
While my bro-in-law and i were going to school for our automotive technology associate degrees he had to replace the trans, it only cost him $150 for a used trans out of a mustang from a major JY.

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Reply #13 – April 01, 2007, 09:39:18 PM

yeh i know its more than enough time for an associates degree. but nascar tech was 30,000 dollars for 13 months and i would have had the associates degree then. well i spent 12,000 of my loans so i have the rest for a cheaper closer college, so im ganna get the auto out of the way and look into geometry and drafting. stuff that'll help me out when i start circle track racing and build my own chassis. im ganna start with a used chassis and see what the previous guy's set up feels like and how i can make it faster suspension/constructionwise and then take those notes and possibly drive someone else's car to gather more notes and then start with scratch. most likely it'll be the bird with a 351w, and to me, with all chevy has on the short tracks, i'll be one of the best looking cars out there with this thing. my insperation. 1987 NASCAR Champion CAR. the body will look like that when im done with it, no more plastic unless i need it. and im ganna mold sheet metal into the shape of the lights and all of that instead of filling a hole with flat sheet metal. plexi windows all that shiznit. it WILL be the shagiest hobby car you've ever seen.

as for fixing it, i did an experiment. running the car without the heater did add grabbiness and slipage, but if i run 2 fittings to use both the factory cooler behind the engine cooler along with this new aftermarket cooler. should run cooler than the car. as for that tho, im hittin everywhere tomarrow morning for a job, and my best job opportunity is coming this friday b/c my potential boss is running his hobby car and we're going to help him out.