Re: Charger 2005 Muscle Car ???? Reply #15 – January 14, 2005, 12:54:53 PM I like that color on the "Daytona". Maybe I should get my Ram painted that way? Hmmmm...... Quote Selected
Re: Charger 2005 Muscle Car ???? Reply #16 – January 14, 2005, 01:13:03 PM I was remembering how was the charger concept in the Mid 2000 (i guess) i prefer it sooo much over the new. What was wrong with this car ? i guess that in the DC they have personality problems..... This charger was a little bit better than the new.... 1999 concept V8 4.7 litres CNG Supercharged 325 HP 5 speed Manual 1361 kg Yes, the new is 5.7 hemi with 340, is automatic 5 speed and weights 1800 kg. This is only for demonstrate which is the sport car..... Quote Selected
Re: Charger 2005 Muscle Car ???? Reply #17 – January 14, 2005, 02:01:54 PM Quote from: Thunder ChickenFord had plenty of legends. Cougar, Torino, Galaxy, Fairlane, Marauder, and of course the Cobra and GT40 If you owned a 427-powered Fairlane you could hold your own against any of those so-called "legends". Remember the Thunderbolt? I'd call that legendary... As for the Charger, don't forget what that name was applied to in the 80'ssorry, never really heard of those, and if I ask anyone else few would say any different. when people think of muscle cars they just don't think of ford. and the thunderbolt is a one in a million car anyways.and just cuz they put a name on a shiznitty car doesn't mean the older cars aren't as good. Quote Selected
Re: Charger 2005 Muscle Car ???? Reply #18 – January 14, 2005, 02:22:16 PM So no one else knows those names just because you don't?A Galaxie was one of my first cars, when I was a teen. Quote Selected
Re: Charger 2005 Muscle Car ???? Reply #19 – January 14, 2005, 02:35:37 PM I wasn't saying the 80's charger made the 60's and 70's charger any worse, I was saying that it makes the four-door model not the worst thing that ever happened to the Charger name, just like the four-door '82 Cougar wagon makes all other versions of the Cougar, including the FWD model, look better.If your friends have never heard of those legendary Ford cars you're hanging around Chev or Mopar guys. Tell Tom (Turbocoupe50) that his 428-powered Torino isn't a muscle car. My old '66 Galaxie 500 (390 4bbl) was pretty ed muscular (325 horses) even with its C6 tranny. The Talledega Torino's were extremely quick and fast. Hell, even the 429 Thunderjet powered T-Birds (another legendary name, hell, we even have a messageboard right here devoted to it) could hold their own against any contemporary competitor. There have been front-wheel-drive Chargers, Malibu's, Impala's, Monte Carlo's, Bonnevilles, Tempests, Lemans, Cutlasses, Regals, etc. The Challenger name has even been applied to a four-cylinder puppiesanese econopoopster, and even Shelby sold out with stickercharged FWD shiznitboxes in the 80's (granted, some were fast, but some were dog-assed slow as well). The early versions of those cars were legendary, to be true, but the names themselves have long lost their legendary status. Meanwhile the Mustang, Thunderbird, and Crown Victoria names have all remained RWD, and with the exception of the '74 Mustang and 89-90 Thunderbird, they have always had available V8 power. The Cougar was ized in '82 and again in '99, so I can't really brag too much about that one, but for the most part Ford has at least kept its legendary names legendary.It all comes down to this: What's in a name? Chrysler owns the Charger name, and if they see fit to stick it on a decontented 300 Sedan, it's their call. If they can stick it on a fastback Omni they can do pretty much whatever they want. If Ford decides to cut two doors off an already slow selling (despite its excellence and popularity everywhere else in the world) sedan and call it a Cougar, then watch it flounder on the market, it's their perogative. If they decide to take an enormous and seriously overweight car and stick a high-winding, low torque engine in it and call it a Marauder, so be it. In the end, if the consumer likes the car it will sell (like the 300). If they don't, it'll fail (Like the T-Bird, Cougar, and Marauder). People buy cars, not names. Quote Selected
Re: Charger 2005 Muscle Car ???? Reply #20 – January 14, 2005, 05:25:28 PM actually I don't have many friends I talk to regularly, having graduated and gone to a real college and not the city college (high school with ash trays) and not many of them drive. those who do drive, drive trucks (S10, B2200, Ranger, Ranchero). I'm just saying that most people recognize muscle car names other than ford. not just because of speed, either. you can hate me all you want, but most of these fords you're noting are pretty ugly to me, especially compared to other muscle cars. just my opinion tho.all I'm saying is that most people (from what I see/hear/know) recognize ford for one car; the mustang. I just wish that they made some other cars that could compete with it. kinda like how the Falcon is an aussie car only. from the specs it seems like even the 6 cylinder could whip a mustang (362hp, 405 ft/lb; V8=388hp, 383 ft/lb). instead they make an underpowered 500, an overpriced Tbird, and a FWD 4-banger cougar. wtf?? Quote Selected
Re: Charger 2005 Muscle Car ???? Reply #21 – January 14, 2005, 05:25:46 PM btw this is the falcon Quote Selected
Re: Charger 2005 Muscle Car ???? Reply #22 – January 14, 2005, 06:55:39 PM I agree 100% with the Falcon (which, BTW, is another of those "legendary" names). I'd love to see Ford (and GM) bring some of their Aussie products here (I know, I know, GTO, but it doesn't count. They overpriced it and thus doomed it to failure). I especially love the utes Quote Selected
Re: Charger 2005 Muscle Car ???? Reply #23 – January 14, 2005, 07:06:18 PM yeah the goat is overpriced and about as exciting styling-wise as a saturn Quote Selected
Re: Charger 2005 Muscle Car ???? Reply #24 – January 14, 2005, 11:46:59 PM The GTO looks too much like a grand prix in my opinion, and that Charger looks like it got hit with the "ugly bat". Kind of like the ram pick up and the magnum wagon had a baby and the Charger was the result. Quote Selected
Re: Charger 2005 Muscle Car ???? Reply #25 – January 15, 2005, 02:17:07 AM The charger looks to me like they ripped fords 67 stang off and slapped a British cigarettenum front end on it and here comes the chrysler kicker the headlights have eyelids. Quote Selected
Re: Charger 2005 Muscle Car ???? Reply #26 – January 15, 2005, 05:39:02 PM Quote from: IfixyawataPS - GTO = Grand Am with different drivetrain.Actually, Holden of Australia (GM owned) originally made the "GTO"GM imports, rebadges it, and calls it a GTO, but to me it snt really a GTO, and anyways, it does look like a GP... Quote Selected
Re: Charger 2005 Muscle Car ???? Reply #27 – January 15, 2005, 06:45:31 PM it looks like every other pontiac out there Quote Selected
Re: Charger 2005 Muscle Car ???? Reply #28 – January 15, 2005, 08:40:57 PM Quoteand even Shelby sold out with stickercharged FWD shiznitboxes in the 80's (granted, some were fast, but some were dog-assed slow as well). sold out huh? i personally thing he did an awesome thing by taking a lightweight, affordable car, adding new intake manifolds, a garret T04 turbo, intercooler, suspension mods such as springs and swaybars, fully adjustable Koni's, wheels, tires, a bit of a body package, and sold it for a cheap enough price for most people to afford Quote Selected
Re: Charger 2005 Muscle Car ???? Reply #29 – January 16, 2005, 01:40:49 AM Quotehaving graduated and gone to a real college and not the city college (high school with ash trays) Hey, I liked those ashtrays! Seriously though, a horsepower war has started. Now there has to be a side battle of styling to go with it.I love the Mustang and I dare say I like the 300. Of the others in production or soon to be in production, nothing has caught my eye. Quote Selected
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