CJ07 Registration & Fees December 28, 2006, 10:47:25 AM LOL...OK, I don't know why I want to stir things up but I've been thinking about maybe standardizing a few things for Cat Jam. It seems like we're getting bigger and there are way more things to keep track of, and I want to put a system in place to help out with this. Well...one of those areas is with money. And we all know that's a touchy subject; quite frankly I hate to bring this up at all, much less talk about it in the first place, but I think this idea would help. Just hear me out first. :)Most of the car shows that I attend have some sort of entry fee. It is a standard that covers a lot of background expenses. A few newbies to CJ06 kept asking me, "How much is the entry fee?" And then I have to explain about the $7/person food/pavilion thing, plus a donation if they want, etc. In other words...it's kind of a pain.I've been thinking about making a standard fee across the board for everyone that attends CJ. If you think about it, right now I sort of double-dip into your pockets: once for the pavilion/food rental, and once more for donations. Most people just pay the first fee with the second and call it a day, and that makes life peachier for me. But some don't, and then I have to spend some time chasing them down and whatnot. By standardizing the fee this would be eliminated. Plus, you could pay beforehand via Paypal.Now I did the online Paypal registration/pay thing for CJ06 and it worked beautifully. But outright donations were lower than expected. Which is fine, don't get me wrong; cash at the show for a donation is always welcome. However, I need initial capital for most show items and that usually comes out of my pocket (after the show I reimburse myself).So...if we were to agree on a standard charge for everyone...say $15/adult...that would cover food, pavilion rental and have a little left over for a donation. This would allow us to better project expenses and also simplify the math significantly. Also, I'd like to keep kids as free, like we do now. They don't really eat or drink much LOL. And it keeps politics out of their lives...let the adults worry about the money.Another advantage is that you could pre-register, pay the "entry fee" up front, order and pay for your T-shirt up front, and then only have to worry about gas, other meals and lodging when you get here. Those that did the pre-register thing for CJ06 will probably agree that it worked out a lot better that way.Or, there's another possibility. We could make the standard fee $30 to cover food, pavilion and donation, and I'll throw one T-shirt in (but only for pre-registered people). This adds even more value to the registration fee. It will also help us get the T-shirts better organized for pre-paid attendees.My only issue is that $30 could be a barrier for some people to attend. Coupled with fuel costs and the hotel room, it could make or break a vacation for some. A $15 or $20 fee would definitely be more attractive in that respect. Then again, an extra $10-15 gets a T-shirt that adds more value to the overall package.What do you think? Any objections or concerns?What fee would you think is fair?(Keep in mind that this is NOT in place yet. I'm just putting out a feeler for opinions.) Quote Selected
CJ07 Registration & Fees Reply #1 – December 28, 2006, 02:43:36 PM I agree with you 99% Boss!!!! The 1% I would say $20 adult's for food pavilion and extra cost's for what need's to be done. Maybe for some of the people that come out with the family like the 2 adult's and young adult $50 together. That's the way we do it with our family reunion. Personnally if you can't tell I have no problem with doing it the way you mentioned. Whatever you decide I'm with ya 100% boss!!! Quote Selected
CJ07 Registration & Fees Reply #2 – December 28, 2006, 06:08:23 PM I'm all for this Eric. I like the idea of $15. Two reasons, one I agree on the cash barrier and second, how many shirts do you sell to registerd Cat Jam attendee's? I know I like the idea, but I've never purchased one, yet.. Quote Selected
CJ07 Registration & Fees Reply #3 – December 28, 2006, 06:20:07 PM I'm game. Just let me know the prices. Quote Selected
CJ07 Registration & Fees Reply #4 – December 29, 2006, 03:56:35 PM thats fine with me as well.the 15$ mark i think would work real good and is a great idea.im all for it. Quote Selected
CJ07 Registration & Fees Reply #5 – December 29, 2006, 06:03:23 PM Ok, here's my two cents...for what it's worth.I would suggest $20 per person, and maybe $35 per couple.As suggested, this could cover the pavilion, food, donation and a t-shirt ( I can't remember what the t's sell for there) for pre-registered only. I mean you can't go out to eat and buy a t-shirt for much less than those prices at any restaurant, and lets face it, we get plenty of really good food and all of it you can eat!That way, people have to just concern themselves with gas and hotel, and whatever meals they do on their own.Also, do we have an age on the 'free kids' thing? I mean, personally, since I have 5 kids and all but 1 are over 12 yrs old, I think that it's kind of taking advantage for them to all be free (not that I'd complain LOL) But, I was thinking age 12 should be the age cut off for kids being free, as most who are over 12 will eat more like adults anyway. Just a thought. One suggestion I would add, if possible, is for people to be able to pre-pay for chinese auction tickets if they want to. Then they can pick up their tickets at the show, and we can still sell them at the show. That gives us a good idea of how much stuff to get too. Quote Selected
CJ07 Registration & Fees Reply #6 – December 29, 2006, 08:24:08 PM what is the chinese auction? Quote Selected
CJ07 Registration & Fees Reply #7 – December 30, 2006, 01:39:45 PM I'm good with any system you come up with Eric. Especially if it makes it easier on you! Let us know. Quote Selected
CJ07 Registration & Fees Reply #8 – December 30, 2006, 05:02:38 PM Quotewhat is the chinese auction?We're raffling off 4thqtr. He's pretty good for reaching the low parts when you clean the car.Heyoh! I keed, I keed! Chinese auction is when you buy as many tickets as you like, and place them in buckets before only the prizes you want to win. It's pretty simple really...although I'm finding out that this concept is totally foreign to some people living in other parts of the country. Quote Selected
CJ07 Registration & Fees Reply #9 – December 30, 2006, 07:27:18 PM having bought the t-shirts for 06, and not attended, i don't see why you can't just make the attendance fee $25 per person and just include shirts for everyone who registers... then sell shirts seperately for whatever for the kids.... i think a kid should be under 16 since that's the driving age..... anyway, that's my :2c: , it wasn't the registration fee that prevented my attendance last year... it was gas and getting out of work..... $25 bucks didn't keep me from being there, it was the $200 in gas and the $150 for the hotel Quote Selected
CJ07 Registration & Fees Reply #10 – December 30, 2006, 10:41:41 PM LMAO Eric!! That is too freakin funny! Quote Selected
CJ07 Registration & Fees Reply #11 – December 31, 2006, 07:13:44 PM just thinking maybe a choice on a package.15$ for those who dont want shirts and another package for those that do want a shirt.i say this because if the fee gets up there to hi we dont realy want to scare off any new people that may want to attend since the old so called fee was only 7$.not that im a cheapskate but at the same time it would be a good idea to keep it an inviting event as well and not scaring them off by money.its something to keep in mind i think.what ever it ends up being im still there. Quote Selected
CJ07 Registration & Fees Reply #12 – January 01, 2007, 11:54:37 PM I'd prefer doing the $15 deal with no shirt, honestly...I have enough t-shirts already that I don't wear (have about 5 year's worth of T-shirts from World Ford Challenge sitting in my drawer, and I NEVER wear the things) Quote Selected
CJ07 Registration & Fees Reply #13 – January 02, 2007, 05:48:59 PM I vote for having 2 options. One for $30 where a shirt is included, and one for $15 without a shirt. My wife will be joining me again this year and she is not really interested in a shirt. Quote Selected
CJ07 Registration & Fees Reply #14 – January 02, 2007, 05:52:54 PM Quote from: 83Heritage;121311I vote for having 2 options. One for $30 where a shirt is included, and one for $15 without a shirt. My wife will be joining me again this year and she is not really interested in a shirt. Quote Selected
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