Anyone with AOD, how did you sturdy it up?

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Anyone with AOD, how did you sturdy it up?

Reply #15 – February 22, 2006, 10:41:36 PM

so if i get a aod from a crown vic put a shift kit in it ...behind a 5.0ho from a stang it should be good . i know some people said an aod is an aod . but if i get a shift kit for a aod .will it fit the crown vic aod ? or am i just ramblein on and i just answerd my own question ?

Z

Anyone with AOD, how did you sturdy it up?

Reply #16 – February 23, 2006, 07:02:05 AM

It will fit. They are all identical except for those Mustang ones.

My suggestion.....if I had the money...pick up an AOD and an AODE and swap the AOD valve body with the AODE...that I know is stronger than the AOD.

Oh oh...has anyone ever rigged up an AODE to operate using a paddle shift type setup? If not, that would be an awesome project...push button shifting in a Coug/Bird. I wanna do it.

Anyone with AOD, how did you sturdy it up?

Reply #17 – February 23, 2006, 04:09:25 PM

From the '84 shop manual:
AOD Specifications:

Forward clutch
5.0L or 3.8L steel 4, friction 4
5.8L -------steel 5, friction 5

Reverse clutch
5.0L or 3.8L steel 2, friction 3
5.8L -------steel 3, friction 4

Direct clutch
5.0L or 5.8L steel 5, friction 5
3.8L -------steel 4, friction 4

Intermediate clutch
5.0L or 5.8L steel 3, friction 3
3.8L -------steel 2, friction 2

Anyone with AOD, how did you sturdy it up?

Reply #18 – February 23, 2006, 05:26:07 PM

Hmm my cousin who owned my Tbird before me had the AOD die...sort of. Trans was fine but it blew up the torque converter at 98,000 miles

Anyone with AOD, how did you sturdy it up?

Reply #19 – February 23, 2006, 07:32:09 PM

Quote from: Billyf17

My suggestion.....if I had the money...pick up an AOD and an AODE and swap the AOD valve body with the AODE...that I know is stronger than the AOD.

That wont work. AODE is no different inside than an AOD, unless its behind an HO. The HO and truck AODs has extra clutches. I think you are thinking about a 4R70W, which has higher 1st and 2nd gear ratios. Even then it wont work because the case is a different casting. Take an AOD that was behind an HO Stang, or Mark7, shift kit the valve body, and add the planetary set from a 4R70W. That is how you make a bad ass street tranny. When you start making a lot of horsepower and torque, then you think about hardened internals and like that.

Anyone with AOD, how did you sturdy it up?

Reply #20 – February 24, 2006, 11:36:16 AM

Stock tranny pushing 350 W HP will break the input shaft, Have broken 3 now, Luckily i HAD aod's laying around but now im out if supply so Im building a bullet proof.

Anyone with AOD, how did you sturdy it up?

Reply #21 – February 24, 2006, 12:33:17 PM

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Also, the AOD-E has much stronger internal components, something the AOD never had.

That came from the Coolcats.net Tech pages....so if I'm wrong, then that page is wrong.

Clutches being the same in quantity isn't going to mean the same durability or strength. But strong internals will mean you can put more power to it and not snap the input shaft off when shifting to 3rd or OD.

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Reply #22 – February 24, 2006, 12:44:58 PM

The AOD-E is the 4R70W...one and the same. AOD-E is just shorter to type sometimes.

I cannot remember the torque specs of an AOD (250?) but the '70' in 4R70W means that it can withstand 700 lb/ft of torque. Obviously there's a little bit of a difference between the two. :)

The fact that the 4R70W can be had with a small-block Ford bolt pattern and converter, and just needs a separate harness and computer, is the major advantage to having one in an older car. It's really no different than retrofitting an SN95 braking system--newer parts, older car, parts fit, no problemo. Baumann Engineering seems to have the 4R70W swap down to a science. That's going to be my next transmission, that's for sure. I've had 7 cars and 15 AOD's and it just gets tiresome throwing money away. It's like, why wrestle with something that WILL fail, when you can have a better solution with just a little more effort?

Anyone with AOD, how did you sturdy it up?

Reply #23 – February 24, 2006, 03:39:38 PM

they are a nice tranny. i did however rip the "front pump" as the shop called it right in 2. mark viii is a friggin heavy car though and it was a 1-2 shift at overt 7000 rpm that did it...

Anyone with AOD, how did you sturdy it up?

Reply #24 – February 24, 2006, 08:23:53 PM

Some of the 03-04 Cobra guys have swapped in bone stock 4R70W's into their cars with 600 dyno proven hosepower. If only it had five gears.......

Anyone with AOD, how did you sturdy it up?

Reply #25 – February 24, 2006, 09:03:29 PM

awesome info at http://www.baumannengineering.com/aodeupgr.htm

I took this info to my machine shop and he already knew about most of the updates in here and is going to do most of them to fit my application for $1500 for total rebuild including removal and installation, u joints and a decent warranty. He promised me it will be alot stronger than it came from the factory. He highly recommended the 2'' overdrive band and the A or billet A+ servo. He is looking into the best material available right now for the clutches and bands.
I already have a transmission cooler installed running in series with my radiator cooler and shift kit installed.

I highly suggest to everyone I know to stay away from transmission flushes from a speed lube like service station. I take my transmission maintenance and work to a licensed transmission shop or a dealership, not an oil change place.

Anyone with AOD, how did you sturdy it up?

Reply #26 – February 25, 2006, 12:05:32 AM

The Pickup and Super Coupe AODs were the best ones... The SC AOD in my TC is TOTALLY stock(never apart)except for a hardened input shaft(broke 1st time at track) and Trans-Go shift kit. Been beating on it for over six years and it's still ticking(one of these days it'll explode)... I've used nothing but type "F" fluid, now has approx 75K mi and over 500 drag strip passes on it....

Third gear

Reply #27 – March 06, 2006, 07:45:01 PM

Is it possible the keep the trans (AOD) in third gear by shifting back to "L" after the 2nd to 3rd shift. I have the Trans Go shift kit and modified governor but at 4100 in 3rd gear it will shift up to 4th. It shifts out of 1st at 5400 and out of 2nd at 5250 but will shift to 4th with the gear lever in "D", otherwise it would go through the quarter in 3rd gear pulling harder. Does it require a valve $$$ body? Thanks, Fred

Anyone with AOD, how did you sturdy it up?

Reply #28 – March 06, 2006, 09:20:49 PM

I beefed up my AOD by installing Red alto clutches, new 3rd direct drum(old one was toast), Lentech hardened lockup input shaft, Lentech Stage II VB with 1-2-3 and OD electronic lockout, TCI 3200 lockup converter, and a standard rebuild.

The Lentech VB is awesome, it holds 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, then flip a switch to go OD. Another thing is that the shifts are very firm and fast, it will snap your neck when you on it.