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vipers to be crushed

Dodge donations to tech schools ,, these were not meant ot hit the streets anyway but about 90 are being "instructed" by chrysler to be crushed.  who are they ,, donating something then telling the owners they have to be crushed.
no doubt the donations were forced by you know who but still,,
oh well..

the claims are these were initial cuts of the streetable cars and were destin for the crusher anyway.

it took chrysler more than 90 tries in full build to make it work?  thats a lot of wasted money.... no wonder.

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Reply #1 –
Actually alot of the auto manufactures would donate cars, trucks deemed not legal for US sales to tech schools. The Tech school I graduated from had a small fleet of GM vehicles that were donated for training, under the stipulation that once the usefulness was exhausted they are to be crushed. We had a Suburban that was originally built for some big wig in the middle east, before delivery the order was canceled. So instead of retro fitting our emissions equipment required it was donated to the school. Hell the Janesville, WI  plant used to donate damaged hoods to the auto body program!! Even funnier the school had at one time had a bunch of Gremlin quarter panels donated!!! LOL

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Reply #2 –
We had 4 corvettes and a couple of cavaliers for the same reason.

Pull the transmissions first.
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Reply #3 –
Remember what happened to the EV1. That car was light years ahead of The LEAF or any other full electric car!!
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Quote from: Haystack;430249 Pull the transmissions first.[/QUOTE

And the engines too.


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Reply #5 –
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Remember what happened to the EV1. That car was light years ahead of The LEAF or any other full electric car!!

yeah but.........  those were active leases which chevy refused to extend for some odd reason. no one remembers those cars.. like in 91,, odd isnt it?  off the line it blew away the stang and vette

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Reply #6 –
I think GM needed a recall to fix an issue with the EV1 and decided to s them instead. I also think CARB had a lot to do with it. Those brain dead California polititions refused to recognize the potential of the EV1  this is from memory. Been a long time. As far as the VIPER those early 6 speeders were fairly strong in the viper. (550 LBS ) but not strong in today's world  so who cares about the trannys in my view but i would not s them. Other than it was a great tranny for it's time but not strong enough for today's mussel. And the V10 was nothing to brag about as it's HP rating is not what i would call STOUT by any means!! But it is a shame they are going to s such great cars. Why in the world would they do such a stupid thing!! I never owned a VIPER but they are so FREKIN COOL!!
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Reply #7 –
Will they look under the hood before they crush it???  I'd think this would be a good candidate for a slant 6 + 3 speed swap...  might teach students about old Darts and what not. ;)

Come to think of it, imagine a 1971 Dart or Challenger with a V10 and 6 speed...

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Reply #8 –
Yeah, this is standard practice. When cars are donated to schools the manufacturer retains ownership, and they stipulate that no part of that car shall ever be used on the road - not even a fuse or the engine oil fill cap. Those cars are pre-production models that were subjected to Lord knows what tortures, and could contain components that were deemed inadequate and changed for production (for example it might contain ball joints that failed on other test mules during durability testing and were changed for production models). Schools accept these donations with these stipulations.

At my trade school we had a 1983 Chevy C10 with 37 km on it, a 1986 Buick Riviera with 50-ish km, and a 1992 Tempo 2-door V6 5-speed with 80-ish km. All had their VIN plates removed, and all had large stickers in the windows detailing the terms of the donations. The Chevy truck was an absolute sin, in perfect contition, but when the trade school closed (the year after I went) it was crushed, along with the Riviera and Tempo. The Riviera had a cool touch-screen CRT for controlling audio and HVAC functions - in 1986! The Tempo was basically a baby T-Bird, and worked really nice with the V6/5-speed combo. It was only two years old when it was sent to the crusher. We also had several engines, including a slant 6, a 3.0 Mitusbishi, and a Ford 3.8 SEFI. I still have a scar on my thumb from that 3.8 - when they tell you to not push pistons out of an engine using your hand, they are right!

It is a shame that Ma Mopar is calling home these Vipers, and one does wonder why this suddenly became an issue, but it is routine, and the only practical way technical schools can get access to guinea-pig vehicles. Even if they were production models, picked right from the dealership lot, they would not be suitable for the road after a few years of young mechanics-to-be tearing into them. Imagine how many times the heads have been off - I can tell you that schools don't buy new head gaskets each time the engine is torn down. Bolts would have been removed and reinstalled so many times that neither they nor the threaded holes they go into could be trusted to be safe on the road. Suspension components, brakes, etc - all subjected to who knows what tortures over the years. One might suggest that Chrysler could keep some of the more rare examples for a museum, but the cars probably don't accurately represent the street versions, and Chrysler probably has already kept rare examples.

And while talking about the EV1, remember that Chrysler had a very similar program, with very similar results (leases not being renewed, most examples being crushed) back in the 1960's. Remember the Turbine...
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Reply #9 –
The article I read on this, said two of the Vipers had "escaped" and were involved in accidents. Chrysler had legal  liability concerns.

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Reply #10 –
If memory serves me the VIPERS  did not carry a VIN# where as the EV1 cars were all leased and legal for the road. As far as the Turbines go i drove one At the worlds fair where they had one on display and a closed private track.
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Reply #11 –
yeah, that's what I was saying about the EV1's