upgrade non-roller to roller engine?

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upgrade non-roller to roller engine?

Reply #15 – December 10, 2013, 07:36:34 PM

Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;425422

My advice: keep the cam, and injectors, sell the rest, and find a complete and running Explorer engine. Swap in the HO cam (it has more upper RPM power) and right out of the box you'll already have better heads and intake. As an aside, you can also put on a mass air conversion, and use the A9P EEC. Grab some good headers (BBK 1515's work great, especially with GT40-P heads) a good X or H pipe, and and a cat back kit from a stang, modify the mid pipes and tails to fit the longer wheelbase of the tbird/cougar, and enjoy it immensely. It will have more power and torque than a 5.0 with E7 and an HO intake, simply because the heads and intake flow better. If you add a bigger TB (65mm would work well) you'd have it pretty nice and drivable.

Some folks reported that they were getting 300 horsepower with that setup with a tune on it...who knows for sure, but for the same amount of work, it's very worth it. Going from an HO to an explorer engine in mine made it feel like it was 50 cubes bigger...

This. It's a magical combo if you're on a budget. All the best stock parts in one place. I'd be sure to run a 96 or early 97 engine, as they had original GT40 heads (bigger intake valve), internal EGR and a friendlier 65mm TB. Not to mention you can run regular Mustang headers instead of special P head ones. It's just easier to adapt the internal EGR motor. Also, be sure to drill and tap #5 intake runner for the air temp sensor.

upgrade non-roller to roller engine?

Reply #16 – December 10, 2013, 07:42:26 PM

Thanks guys. Mine looks just like it (including the distributor boot) except that one is much cleaner. And where did they get that M/C? That thing is huge.

So.... if I already have roller motor, I should just replace the cam with my HO cam, put some good heads on, GT40 intakes, headers and x-pipe and I'm 225 + Hp? This 155 Hp sucks, I got shut down by a minivan at a stop light.

I'll give you some numbers. Straight stock with just a cheap cold air intake, my 0-60 time was 11.9 secs. After that, I did the 11" front brake mod, TC springs all around, TC 15-1 rack, all new shocks and the 8.8 3.73 rear end swap. My 0-60 time is now 10.5 secs. My wife's '96 Avalon does 0-60 in 9.3 secs. Come on, you guys gotta help me do better, this is embarrassing.

upgrade non-roller to roller engine?

Reply #17 – December 10, 2013, 07:48:30 PM

Quote from: marianadeeps;425452

And where did they get that M/C? That thing is huge.

That's the (1987-88 T-Bird Turbo and 1985-92 Mark 7) ABS setup, it IS huge, and ridiculously complex. Most, if not all, 80's ABS systems were overly complicated, I HATE integral units, I'm lucky that all my vehicles that had ABS, had non-integral systems.

upgrade non-roller to roller engine?

Reply #18 – December 10, 2013, 10:28:30 PM

With the HO cam, you'll need an HO-related EEC, such as a DA1, or VM1, or one from a 5.0 Mark VII. You'll also need orange topped 19 pound/hour injectors, and to change the plug wiring to 5.0HO/351w firing order. That's simple...a quick google image search on ford 5.0 firing order will net you that easy step.
The HO eec, 19# injectors, and HO firing order must all be done together, just doing one of them will cause you fits. Gather all your parts, and if you're mechanically inclined and have a decent toolbox, you can do it in a weekend, or even less if you have all your parts and tools laid out before hand. Good luck!

upgrade non-roller to roller engine?

Reply #19 – December 11, 2013, 06:14:18 PM

Quote from: marianadeeps;425452

Thanks guys. Mine looks just like it (including the distributor boot) except that one is much cleaner. And where did they get that M/C? That thing is huge.

So.... if I already have roller motor, I should just replace the cam with my HO cam, put some good heads on, GT40 intakes, headers and x-pipe and I'm 225 + Hp? This 155 Hp sucks, I got shut down by a minivan at a stop light.

I'll give you some numbers. Straight stock with just a cheap cold air intake, my 0-60 time was 11.9 secs. After that, I did the 11" front brake mod, TC springs all around, TC 15-1 rack, all new shocks and the 8.8 3.73 rear end swap. My 0-60 time is now 10.5 secs. My wife's '96 Avalon does 0-60 in 9.3 secs. Come on, you guys gotta help me do better, this is embarrassing.

Your car stock should hit 60 mph in about 9-9.5 seconds. The stock 5.0 cars would run high 16s in the quarter.

upgrade non-roller to roller engine?

Reply #20 – December 11, 2013, 06:46:55 PM

Quote from: thunderjet302;425490

Your car stock should hit 60 mph in about 9-9.5 seconds. The stock 5.0 cars would run high 16s in the quarter.

Well that's disturbing. The car runs well, idles well, smooth acceleration. You're talking about with an AOD not T5 correct?

upgrade non-roller to roller engine?

Reply #21 – December 12, 2013, 03:30:47 PM

my cars all pulled in the 10-11 second mark. most were well used and near or over 200k though. my 88 crown vic wagon would destroy my last tbird through 60, but it had 3.55 gears.

upgrade non-roller to roller engine?

Reply #22 – December 12, 2013, 07:01:17 PM

Take it as gospel...an Prius is likely faster than a stock 5.0 Bird.

Just the way it is. Go get some P's, exhaust, big cam, and slap that sheeit together!

upgrade non-roller to roller engine?

Reply #23 – December 13, 2013, 11:12:44 PM

Idk, I went form a 96 Ranger 2.3/M50D 2wd, reg cab, and with all 112 horses (which was the most a n/a Lima 2.3 ever was) my Cat could still blow that Ranger away! I also had a '03 Ranger 3.0/5R44E, also reg cab 2wd, (rated @ 154hp I believe) which also couldn't get out of it's own way, and drank as much gas as a cfi 5.0.