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Oil Change routines

Reply #30
Quote from: Haystack;412987
I've tried to blow up my engine on my past 4 cars by not changing the oil with no luck so far.this included waiting for the lifters to make noise before adding a single quart. dropping the trans into first randomly on the.highway and bouncing off.the rev limited.for miles at a time.
I think I've done 10oil changes since I was 16. and I beat the living cap out of my cars. if your throwing main bearing at less.then 30k, the problem is probably a lack of oil rather then the quality of oils and additives  used.


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Oil Change routines

Reply #31
Quote from: Haystack;412987
I've tried to blow up my engine on my past 4 cars by not changing the oil with no luck so far.this included waiting for the lifters to make noise before adding a single quart. dropping the trans into first randomly on the.highway and bouncing off.the rev limited.for miles at a time.
I think I've done 10oil changes since I was 16. and I beat the living cap out of my cars. if your throwing main bearing at less.then 30k, the problem is probably a lack of oil rather then the quality of oils and additives  used.

But I guess swapping a T5 into your car is pretty important, but not engine oil?

My dad has an '89 F truck, 5.0, manual trans, 4x4, etc. Always been taken care of. He maintains his stuff really well. Anyway, I started driving it in 2006, was hauling some square bales of hay in the back....gradually, over a period of several months, the oil pressure continued to drop. Would clatter at idle. Had the proper amount of oil in the pan. Either the pump died, or the bearings were so worn out that it wouldn't keep enough pressure....but anyway, that goes to show that even with proper oil change intervals, and great maintenance, sometimes things don't last. Ford, Chevy, Briggs & Stratton, or whatever flavor of fossil fuel power maker you prefer....with shiznit maintenance habits, most likely you'll be afoot. I learned when I was 16. Blew the oil pressure gauge feed line off on my ancient Jeep truck. Instead of parking it and walking the mile or so back home to get the other Jeep, I just turned around and drove it. The rods and mains were complaining when I shut it off. I rebuilt it in school, and worked the cost of the parts off the following summer, for my dad. Nowadays, if I break my shiznit, I walk. With kids to haul around, I can't afford it, so I try to take care of stuff.

And for people that deliberately try to blow their  up...it's one of two things: you're either a spoiled rich kid, or a f*ckin' dumbass. Little doubt here which is which in this case..
'98 Explorer 5.0
'20 Malibu (I know, Chevy, but, 35MPG. Let's go brandon, eh)

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Reply #32
Well the Thunderbird gets driven between 1000-1500 miles a year so I usually just change the oil and filter in the spring and that's it. So basically I change the oil in the spring, drive it all summer, put it away in the fall, and then change the oil the following spring. I've been running Mobile 1 10W-30 and a Motorcraft FL-1A filter for years on this schedule with no ill effects.

On the DDs I just follow the sever schedule for oil changes. On the Focus that's every 6K and the Mustang is every 7K or when the dash sensor tells you it's time for an oil change. I run synthetics and a Mortorcraft filter in both so it's probably overkill.
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

Oil Change routines

Reply #33
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;413011
But I guess swapping a T5 into your car is pretty important, but not engine oil?

My dad has an '89 F truck, 5.0, manual trans, 4x4, etc. Always been taken care of. He maintains his stuff really well. Anyway, I started driving it in 2006, was hauling some square bales of hay in the back....gradually, over a period of several months, the oil pressure continued to drop. Would clatter at idle. Had the proper amount of oil in the pan. Either the pump died, or the bearings were so worn out that it wouldn't keep enough pressure....but anyway, that goes to show that even with proper oil change intervals, and great maintenance, sometimes things don't last. Ford, Chevy, Briggs & Stratton, or whatever flavor of fossil fuel power maker you prefer....with shiznit maintenance habits, most likely you'll be afoot. I learned when I was 16. Blew the oil pressure gauge feed line off on my ancient Jeep truck. Instead of parking it and walking the mile or so back home to get the other Jeep, I just turned around and drove it. The rods and mains were complaining when I shut it off. I rebuilt it in school, and worked the cost of the parts off the following summer, for my dad. Nowadays, if I break my shiznit, I walk. With kids to haul around, I can't afford it, so I try to take care of stuff.

And for people that deliberately try to blow their  up...it's one of two things: you're either a spoiled rich kid, or a f*ckin' dumbass. Little doubt here which is which in this case..


The t-5 was specifically so that I could drive my car on the freeway 900+ miles to a small town less then 20 miles from the canadian border for work. I'm not a rich kid, I've had to work my ass off for every penny I've ever touched. Otherwise I wouldn't be driving a 200k $400 car half way acrossed the country.

I'll bet I've put over 160k miles on my own personal vehicles, all 5.0's. (And only maybe 5k on my current vehicle in the last month) in the last 4 years. Trying to blow any one of them up so that I could use my mustang engine that's been sitting in the garage since 2006. Its ready to go and already been run. At the time I pulled it out, the car I put it in ate the tranny.



Guess I'm just a dumbass for driving my car more in a month then most of our members drive in the time they own their cars.

Maybe I've just been lucky, but I've had 4 or 5 cars well over 200k that I beat the shiznit out of, and not one of them ate the engine.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #34
I was not expecting much interest on this subject, but one hears soooo many words of advice on oil changes from the experts these days...and of course, there are more oil choices to deal with.  Nothing can be simple anymore.  Maybe that's what has happened to us all in the last 50 years.  Just 40 years ago, most of the vehicles on the road here were domestic and it was simple to eyeball and ID most of them just by shape.  I have never had any serious problems with engines, but then, I am not a road jock either--more like the "Little Old Lady."  I'll keep an eye on the oil situation and maybe move up my schedule as I would definitely not have the '88 T-Bird go astray now!  At this point in time, it is a low mileage situation with 126K on the clock. 

JR

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Reply #35
Quote from: Haystack;413202
The t-5 was specifically so that I could drive my car on the freeway 900+ miles to a small town less then 20 miles from the canadian border for work. I'm not a rich kid, I've had to work my ass off for every penny I've ever touched. Otherwise I wouldn't be driving a 200k $400 car half way acrossed the country.


I'll bet I've put over 160k miles on my own personal vehicles, all 5.0's. (And only maybe 5k on my current vehicle in the last month) in the last 4 years. Trying to blow any one of them up so that I could use my mustang engine that's been sitting in the garage since 2006. Its ready to go and already been run. At the time I pulled it out, the car I put it in ate the tranny. .


Why try to blow it up? Why not just do the swap? Plenty of people would buy the engine, or the heads, etc off of whatever is in your current car. Re-coup some money? If money's tight, why wreck something someone else can use.

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Reply #36
someone is going to drive to Utah to pick up engine parts off of a 200k motor? I don't see that happening. outside of the wiring harness, when was the last time you saw someone selling something off of a s.o. motor and make any money?
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

Oil Change routines

Reply #37
and getting back on subject, my dad has a 91ish e-250. he bought it with about 30k on it. he changes his oil frequently, but hit motor is already worn out, has constant top end noise until its warm and eats a quart or two of oil a tank. I believe its at about 90k now.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

Oil Change routines

Reply #38
Stacks you would hate getting a performance engine from me.

NO DIPSTICKS.

DIP STICKS ARE Not an option on my engines and never will be. You would go NUTS FOR SURE!!!

But blowing up an engine. I DON'T GET IT!!! Maybe i am missing something here???

By the way stacks tell your dad not to feel bad. Most new TOYOTA'S SUBARU HONDA and AUDI cars burn a QUART EVERY 500 Miles. And they say this is normal!!!
I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

Oil Change routines

Reply #39
Quote from: TOM Renzo;413378
Stacks you would hate getting a performance engine from me.

NO DIPSTICKS.

DIP STICKS ARE Not an option on my engines and never will be. You would go NUTS FOR SURE!!!

But blowing up an engine. I DON'T GET IT!!! Maybe i am missing something here???

By the way stacks tell your dad not to feel bad. Most new TOYOTA'S SUBARU HONDA and AUDI cars burn a QUART EVERY 500 Miles. And they say this is normal!!!

Ford says it's max allowable for warranty is 1 quart in 900 miles.

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Reply #40
Quote from: TheFoeYouKnow;413379
Ford says it's max allowable for warranty is 1 quart in 900 miles.


 This oil usage  is something NEW and we found out WHY!!! Makes me wonder what the hell is going on. A quart in 900 is outrageous to say the least!!!!!
I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!


 

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Reply #42
That sucks. So i guess along with CAFE regs they should include OIL USAGE. What a crock of BS. Any engine that uses that much oil has an ISSUE plain and simple!!!
I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!