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Just installed new injectors an now car idols rough

Reply #45
OK if you think you have dead cylinders there is a scope that is built in to your BODY. It is called a WET INDEX FINGER. With the engine started from cold wet you finger and touch it on the exhaust manifold next to the cylinder it connects to. Have you ever seen a person check an IRON for heat. My MOM used to wet her finger and touch the IRON. It would SIZZLE and tell her the iron was hot enough. The same can be dun with an engine. If the exhaust outlet is cold that cylinder is dead. At the track away from my equipment this is how we would test for a dead cylinder. I use this technique all the time. It works and just do it correctly so you do not burn yourself. With that if you have dead cylinders you just might have a vacuum leak near those group of cylinders. If in fact the engine ran good before the swap you messed something up. Also to check for a vacuum leak i used to close off the choke on carb engines. This reduces the air entering the engine and if it has a leak it will smooth out quite a bit. On an EFI engine this can be accomplished the same way with your hand. Or spray some carb cleaner in the intake sparingly and see if the engine runs better. With that i think running codes is a good idea. But Ford says you need a worm engine to get proper results. other than TPS for example. Other than that check the EGR and see if it is stuck open or has an exhaust leak past the PINTLE. Good luck


O2 Sensors do not effect a cold engine. The engine is in OPEN LOOP on start up stratigies. The HEGO has to be wormed up before they start working. Then in closed loop they come in to play!!
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Just installed new injectors an now car idols rough

Reply #46
Think I found the problem went an bout new egr sensor an as I went to take the old one off this is what I found (tried to post pic ) later but it only has one bolt holding it on
First car I owned an wish I wasnt so Young a Dumb
86-TBird 5.0 SO Pretty much original
GOT TO LOVE A FOUR EYE
81-F250- 7.5 460
73- closed camber heads w/ studs
Bored 30 over
528 lift voodoo can
1.73 roller rockers
PLAY TRUCK
11' KIA SORENTO (WIFES CAR)
96' SL2 SATREN 250000+ MILES DD

Just installed new injectors an now car idols rough

Reply #47
That would be a HUGE VACUUM LEAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you think??????????????  :beatyoass:
I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

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Just installed new injectors an now car idols rough

Reply #48
Found IT
First car I owned an wish I wasnt so Young a Dumb
86-TBird 5.0 SO Pretty much original
GOT TO LOVE A FOUR EYE
81-F250- 7.5 460
73- closed camber heads w/ studs
Bored 30 over
528 lift voodoo can
1.73 roller rockers
PLAY TRUCK
11' KIA SORENTO (WIFES CAR)
96' SL2 SATREN 250000+ MILES DD

Just installed new injectors an now car idols rough

Reply #49
My EGR isn't even hooked up...no issues from it.

Does your car run better now?
'84 Mustang
'98 Explorer 5.0
'03 Focus, dropped a valve seat. yay. freakin' split port engines...
'06 Explorer EB 4.6

Just installed new injectors an now car idols rough

Reply #50
The question now is the car fixed??????????? And who left the EGR LOOSE ???????????

Unless you TUNE OUT THE EGR removing one is not something i would do. The ECM strategies are programmed around it being working properly.
I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

Just installed new injectors an now car idols rough

Reply #51
:shootheadCar runs a little better but still not right I'm just lost car still idels rough an driving it just does not run smooth at all thinking about changing the vac sensor for the EGR an see where that gets me any other ideas need this car running bad
First car I owned an wish I wasnt so Young a Dumb
86-TBird 5.0 SO Pretty much original
GOT TO LOVE A FOUR EYE
81-F250- 7.5 460
73- closed camber heads w/ studs
Bored 30 over
528 lift voodoo can
1.73 roller rockers
PLAY TRUCK
11' KIA SORENTO (WIFES CAR)
96' SL2 SATREN 250000+ MILES DD

Just installed new injectors an now car idols rough

Reply #52
You have an egr valve and a vacuum LINE going to it. EGR will play all kinda of havoc on idle, as will many vacuum leaks.

Did you pull the EGR valve off and replace the gasket? The gasket would likely be shot if it was like that for any amount of time. For a temporary solution, I've used a thin film of RTV on both sides and then reused the gasket. I only keep black RTV on hand as it should be used on some gaskets, but everything else I just make sure the surfaces are good and buy new gaskets. The EGR valve itself can also be bad. There can only be a small number of things that would be the issue. Verify no vacuum leaks, then you'd likely be looking at the EGR or sensors as being the problem. Other issues are far less likely to come up.
1988 Thunderbird Sport

Just installed new injectors an now car idols rough

Reply #53
Replaced the sensor an EGR valve an all the gaskets on the egr an throttle body
First car I owned an wish I wasnt so Young a Dumb
86-TBird 5.0 SO Pretty much original
GOT TO LOVE A FOUR EYE
81-F250- 7.5 460
73- closed camber heads w/ studs
Bored 30 over
528 lift voodoo can
1.73 roller rockers
PLAY TRUCK
11' KIA SORENTO (WIFES CAR)
96' SL2 SATREN 250000+ MILES DD

Just installed new injectors an now car idols rough

Reply #54
Remove the EGR valve and clean off all the gasket material from both surfaces.  Cut a piece of sheet metal to span the studs. Bolt it back and start the engine. If you still have issues which you still will this eliminates the EGR as a problem source. If it fixes the engine you found the issue. But my gut feeling is the EGR is not the issue. You can also check for a leaking EGR valve by feeling the pipe from the manifold to the valve. If it is hot with the Vacuum hose removed the valve is stuck open. This will mess up the running of the engine
I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

Just installed new injectors an now car idols rough

Reply #55
Ok I'll try the sheet metal thing I'm thinking its the new vac lines I installed I didn't put clamps on them an the fit looser the the original ones
First car I owned an wish I wasnt so Young a Dumb
86-TBird 5.0 SO Pretty much original
GOT TO LOVE A FOUR EYE
81-F250- 7.5 460
73- closed camber heads w/ studs
Bored 30 over
528 lift voodoo can
1.73 roller rockers
PLAY TRUCK
11' KIA SORENTO (WIFES CAR)
96' SL2 SATREN 250000+ MILES DD

Just installed new injectors an now car idols rough

Reply #56
sry guys its been a few days an ive not got to work on the car but hoping to sometime today an thanks for all the advice on this project
First car I owned an wish I wasnt so Young a Dumb
86-TBird 5.0 SO Pretty much original
GOT TO LOVE A FOUR EYE
81-F250- 7.5 460
73- closed camber heads w/ studs
Bored 30 over
528 lift voodoo can
1.73 roller rockers
PLAY TRUCK
11' KIA SORENTO (WIFES CAR)
96' SL2 SATREN 250000+ MILES DD

 

Just installed new injectors an now car idols rough

Reply #57
Ok work on car an come up with nothing thought it was a bad plug (not)
Thought it could have Been a bad injector all read 14 oms Now I am lost all vac lines are good no leaks
Brand new egr valve an sensor and all new throttle body egr gaskets any other ideas really getting tired of throwing money at this. Car
First car I owned an wish I wasnt so Young a Dumb
86-TBird 5.0 SO Pretty much original
GOT TO LOVE A FOUR EYE
81-F250- 7.5 460
73- closed camber heads w/ studs
Bored 30 over
528 lift voodoo can
1.73 roller rockers
PLAY TRUCK
11' KIA SORENTO (WIFES CAR)
96' SL2 SATREN 250000+ MILES DD