thunderbird vs mustang Reply #75 – December 22, 2011, 04:58:35 AM Wow, if your not willing to read into something, alittle bit, to gain wanted knowledge, just wait till the rest of real life hits you. Quote Selected
thunderbird vs mustang Reply #79 – December 22, 2011, 01:08:45 PM Quote from: TOM Renzo;376039And if you did not own it you are SCREWED. This makes it sound like you are saying that you MUST be the owner of the riffle prior to the ban and that it can not be transferred? Am I understanding this correctly?QuoteAny lower purchased after the ban date adopted by MASS which is the federal original law is standing.You DO know it's not a feredral law now right? QuoteSo in Mass you cant manufacture a pre ban gun as a consumer.You most certainly CAN, read below. QuoteOnly police or military ETC.They (in MA, they can not in CT. It has to be issued to them) can purchase a BRAND NEW AR-15 in pre-ban configuration. Likely they could get away with assembling a non-compliant pre-ban lower as well but maybe not. I'm not sure and i don't care. They can buy a new one for less like the rest of the country. QuoteSo assembling a pre ban lower as a pre ban gun violates Mass law.Not absolutely. Only the lowers that were not assembled/kitted/papered prior to 9/13/94 violate law. QuoteHay i have several pre ban guns. What would stop me from transfering them to a mass dealer and have him break down the gun and sell you the lower. HE CAN. But you cant make it a pre ban with accessories.I'm not sure they being pre-ban can be transferred into the state unless perhaps willed. If they can be transfered in, and they have serial numbers that reflect they were assembled/kitted or papered prior to the bans, than nothing. QuoteATF REGS on states with assault weapons bans. If you as a retail customer or dealer had a lower receiver on hand that was manufactured before the law was signed, but you didn’t have all the parts on hand to assemble it into a complete rifle, you could not now assemble it into a legal, Pre-ban rifle. If you had all the parts on hand before the bill was signed into law, you could still assemble it into a legal, Pre-ban configuration.That backs up exactly what I'm saying. So, Don't know what to tell yo but. You're missing what I said. I agree, the Pre-ban would have to have been "papered". This means any AR-15 manufactured and assembled or kitted before 9/13/94 qualifies. I'm not sure about transfers from out of state. I hadn't even considered it and at this time is a moot point. I refer to only those that were within the state prior to the ban. I believe only the ones that reside within the state are legal. LOWER pre-ban assemblies that were NOT sold as a complete weapon or kitted would have to have been assembled before 9/13/94 AND would have to have some sort of paper trail/proof (photos and notarized notice etc) because they would not have a serial number representing them as a complete weapon/kit. Any of those above can lawfully be broken down, sold and refitted with pre OR post uppers. FACT. ONLY the lowers that were NOT assembled, sold kitted, or were sold as individual lowers CAN NOT lawfully be assembled as a legal pre-ban weapon.So, you were correct that not all pre-ban lowers could be assembled as pre-ban weapons legally, but you were only half right. Quote Selected
thunderbird vs mustang Reply #80 – December 22, 2011, 03:18:06 PM Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;376034:flip: sorry lol it was a bet i knew i could win, so i had to do it.. i guess i know how to ruffle your feathers a bit too well lol Quote from: Haystack;376036Wow, if your not willing to read into something, alittle bit, to gain wanted knowledge, just wait till the rest of real life hits you. it's not really something i want/need much knowledge of.. i spend too much on the hobbies i have now, guns would send me into debt and possibly get me in trouble.. lol plus it's too much for my mind to handle.. i have ADD and stopped taking my meds at 14, so i can't concentrate long enough to read it allQuote from: TOM Renzo;376038Shadow as i explained in another post i went to an OBD3 Course and i explained about the fuel pump thing. Made a good point to some but others did not agree. fine and doubt is good. But we also had a state inspector inform us that some agencies want the new emission standards so tough that older cars cant pass. And some also wanted a cutoff date for registering older cars. Now i know this will never happen!!! Or Maybe Not???? My state has very strict rules on non obd2 cars. Some obd 1 cars have a hard time passing tail pipe. Reason they have no EGR SYSTEMS and the state knows that. So if you are a ban this and ban that type of person and want stricter rules on guns. You just may have those same rules applied to your car. You must know that living in NJ the most restrictive state on cars and guns. Dont wish for things to hard. They just may come true!!!! NJ isn't the strictest state.. i've seen cars (untouched) come from PA, NY and MD pass in NJ that couldn't pass the sniffer in those states.. NJ's emissions laws are outdated compared to other states, i believe Quote Selected
thunderbird vs mustang Reply #82 – December 22, 2011, 06:11:16 PM Quote from: TOM Renzo;376074Shame Who cares any way. If you are down in danbury on Sundays come down to the mountain and i will show you a great time. We can do some shooting and talk about guns. This offer stands and you are welcome at the club at any time I do. I'd rather avoid having to take on the state. I appreciate the offer/invite. Quote Selected
thunderbird vs mustang Reply #83 – December 22, 2011, 07:25:58 PM Quote from: Shadow;376066sorry lol it was a bet i knew i could win, so i had to do it.. i guess i know how to ruffle your feathers a bit too well lol s'ok lol...I was tired, hungry, and stuff....and I edited it all about 12 times lmaoI was heated then, but I'm lmao now Quote Selected
thunderbird vs mustang Reply #84 – December 22, 2011, 07:28:24 PM well that's good.. i'd split the money with you for getting you heated, but i'm greedy hahah Quote Selected
thunderbird vs mustang Reply #85 – December 24, 2011, 02:17:32 AM So now your hiding behind rugs for behavior? Just curious. So what is something that you have done because of you? Not trying to be mean, but it seems like an on going thing to be the center of attention, then blame everyone else under the sun as to why. Quote Selected
thunderbird vs mustang Reply #86 – December 24, 2011, 03:24:24 AM Quote from: Haystack;376166So now your hiding behind rugs for behavior? Just curious. So what is something that you have done because of you? Not trying to be mean, but it seems like an on going thing to be the center of attention, then blame everyone else under the sun as to why. what you're getting at, but i'm not 1 to enjoy being in the 'spotlight' much.. i seem to be a super post w as of lately though.. might be from the 4 months of (basically) solitary confinement i went through when i broke my leg.. was stuck in bed and couldn't do anything, so i suppose i'm 'making up for lost time'.. i'm about to go on a 2 month hiatus betwen being neck-deep in chrome moly tubing and elbow deep in projects, so you'll be seeing much, much less of me as of monday when the 18 hour work days begin Quote Selected
thunderbird vs mustang Reply #87 – December 24, 2011, 06:51:07 AM I've quit my job, moved in with my dad, and am going through a divorce.. I have over 180 hours into just typing up court dospoogeents against the wifes lawyer, just since october 30th. I have spent months trying to get to the point I can see my two kids. At the end of the day we all have problems. This is a nice place where people like to spend their time. Your more the welcome to come and hang out as well. Bu you don't need to try to ruin every thread because you broke your leg. I am sorry to hear about it though. But I will tell you this, your not going to make any frends screwing with people here. I would rather you were ran off then any of my freinds that I have talked to here, nearly everyday, for 8 years. It is a delecate place, with good people.If you have a car problem, even if it is a chevy, throw up a post about it. If you want to guess at hp output of a possible motor combo, go ahead. But please do not ruin every thread just to piss people off. I am not going to lose any sleep over it, but I would prefer that no one else does either. Quote Selected
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