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Necessary suspension mods?

I'm slowly rebuilding the suspension on my Cougar, and I'm trying to compile a list of what all I should upgrade.

So far I have:
MM Caster/Camber Plates
CHE U/L Tubular Control Arms

I'm going to buy or make a unit with subframe connectors with side rails and a web design tying the two together for support. I'll be upgrading brakes on the front with a StopTech Big Brake Upgrade, rear disc conversion. I'm thinking Mach 1 Springs.
"Real cars dont power the front wheels, they lift them"
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
1984 Mercury Cougar GS 5.0:cougarsmily: BBK Equal Length Shorties, BBK O/R X-Pipe, Magnaflow Magnapacks, Mustang GT Stainless Tailpipes, 18" Magnaflow Rolled Edge Tips. Turbo Coupe Hood, Mach 1 Chin Spoiler. 17"x9" Cobra R's, Falken Ziex 255/50s, and 245/45s.
1984 Ford Thunderbird 3.8L "Drag Queen"
2009 Dodge Ram 1500 Lone Star Edition 5.7L Hemi 400hp, lex DOD14M Magnaflow retro-fit ler kit

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Reply #1
I'm going to fab subframe connectors also.  Hopefully start that in a few weeks after I'm done in the engine bay.  I have a design in my head...gotta take some measurements and make some templates before hand.....will post up pics during construction.  I'm guessing that the "side rail and web design" you are referring to are also called "jacking rails"?
1988 T-Bird Sport Coupe--5.0 HO, MAF swap, 1-5/8" shorties, BBK/Flowmaster exhaust, Explorer intake, 70mm Edelbrock TB, T5, B&M short throw, Centerforce clutch and PP, disc brake TC rear w/ 3.55's, TC front brakes, '98 Cobra springs, DIY SFC's, other misc .  14.05 @ 98mph with launching too low and shifting too high.

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Reply #2
Quote from: Dan B.;370815
I'm going to fab subframe connectors also.  Hopefully start that in a few weeks after I'm done in the engine bay.  I have a design in my head...gotta take some measurements and make some templates before hand.....will post up pics during construction.  I'm guessing that the "side rail and web design" you are referring to are also called "jacking rails"?

Yes, the rocker pinch weld braces are also called jacking rails.  Even if you don't tie them into the subframe/subframe connectors, they are very handy for getting the car in the air.  The extra bracing just adds to the rigidity of the overall set-up.

If you're just doing "bottom mount" SCFs, there really is no magic to it.  For a TBird/Cougar no bends are required in the main tubes.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

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Reply #3
You mean like this, 1x2 1/8" wall 5' long.:D
95 Ranger Splash 2.3
88 Tbird Sport :ies::ies:
5.0 SO, stainless shorty headers, w/ Magnaflow lers. KYB struts, KYB shocks. 5lug conversion from sn95 Mustang, subframe connectors, drilled and slotted rotors, 03 Mach 1 wheels. sequential taillights.140 speedo

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Reply #4
Quote from: cougarman;370845
You mean like this, 1x2 1/8" wall 5' long.:D

Looks like mine. Even those stiffened the car up quite a bit.
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

Necessary suspension mods?

Reply #5
Could you snap a pic of the front and rear mounting points?
1988 T-Bird Sport Coupe--5.0 HO, MAF swap, 1-5/8" shorties, BBK/Flowmaster exhaust, Explorer intake, 70mm Edelbrock TB, T5, B&M short throw, Centerforce clutch and PP, disc brake TC rear w/ 3.55's, TC front brakes, '98 Cobra springs, DIY SFC's, other misc .  14.05 @ 98mph with launching too low and shifting too high.

Necessary suspension mods?

Reply #6
They run from the rear frame rail where the lower arm attaches to the front subframe. Yea I know, shiznitty welds it's what happens when you have poor eyesight...lol.:hick:  (they have been welded more now)
95 Ranger Splash 2.3
88 Tbird Sport :ies::ies:
5.0 SO, stainless shorty headers, w/ Magnaflow lers. KYB struts, KYB shocks. 5lug conversion from sn95 Mustang, subframe connectors, drilled and slotted rotors, 03 Mach 1 wheels. sequential taillights.140 speedo

Necessary suspension mods?

Reply #7
If you angled the rear the other way, you could overlap that  angled bit onto the rear subframe where it dips down below the torque box, and gain an extra couple inches of weld area.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

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Reply #8
Thanks Chuck!!
95 Ranger Splash 2.3
88 Tbird Sport :ies::ies:
5.0 SO, stainless shorty headers, w/ Magnaflow lers. KYB struts, KYB shocks. 5lug conversion from sn95 Mustang, subframe connectors, drilled and slotted rotors, 03 Mach 1 wheels. sequential taillights.140 speedo

Necessary suspension mods?

Reply #9
Pics were great....exactly what I'd hoped to see.  Thanks!

Quote from: Chuck W;370910
If you angled the rear the other way, you could overlap that  angled bit onto the rear subframe where it dips down below the torque box, and gain an extra couple inches of weld area.

This is what I was thinking also.
1988 T-Bird Sport Coupe--5.0 HO, MAF swap, 1-5/8" shorties, BBK/Flowmaster exhaust, Explorer intake, 70mm Edelbrock TB, T5, B&M short throw, Centerforce clutch and PP, disc brake TC rear w/ 3.55's, TC front brakes, '98 Cobra springs, DIY SFC's, other misc .  14.05 @ 98mph with launching too low and shifting too high.

Necessary suspension mods?

Reply #10
I have a set of the StopTech's for the 69 FB and unless you just have the $$$ burning a hole in your wallet I would suggest sourcing a set of the Mach 1 front brakes as the calipers do not have any logos on them.  This will get you 13" front brakes and will clear all kinds of wheels and for under $400 it is maximum bang for the buck on the brakes.  I have a full Cobra setup on my 93 Coupe and based off the excellent braking on that car I have installed the same brakes on the Bird.  Just my 0.02 but if you get the StopTechs its not like you will regret it either!

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

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Reply #11
The chances of finding a Mach 1 setup aren't that great though. I'm new at brakes honestly. Engine components and brakes are new to me. I bought a set of 2001 GT spindles/Hubs with less than 50k on them. They look brand new. This is the subframe/pinchweld brace I was considering(I realize this isn't a Fox, it's an '03 Cobra, I couldn't find the picture of the Fox brace I saw).
"Real cars dont power the front wheels, they lift them"
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
1984 Mercury Cougar GS 5.0:cougarsmily: BBK Equal Length Shorties, BBK O/R X-Pipe, Magnaflow Magnapacks, Mustang GT Stainless Tailpipes, 18" Magnaflow Rolled Edge Tips. Turbo Coupe Hood, Mach 1 Chin Spoiler. 17"x9" Cobra R's, Falken Ziex 255/50s, and 245/45s.
1984 Ford Thunderbird 3.8L "Drag Queen"
2009 Dodge Ram 1500 Lone Star Edition 5.7L Hemi 400hp, lex DOD14M Magnaflow retro-fit ler kit

Necessary suspension mods?

Reply #12
Go to an Advance Parts store and order them for the Mach 1. They will come with the bracket and caliper but you may have to have them order them a couple times as sometimes they will ship a Cobra caliper. The parts guys don't pay much attention to what calipers you put back in the boxes for the cores.

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

 

Necessary suspension mods?

Reply #13
Oh, sweet haha, I didn't know that. I'll give it a try when I get around too it. I might have to order a set for my Bird also. I wanna 5-lug it with some FR-500s then get a motor in it.
"Real cars dont power the front wheels, they lift them"
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
1984 Mercury Cougar GS 5.0:cougarsmily: BBK Equal Length Shorties, BBK O/R X-Pipe, Magnaflow Magnapacks, Mustang GT Stainless Tailpipes, 18" Magnaflow Rolled Edge Tips. Turbo Coupe Hood, Mach 1 Chin Spoiler. 17"x9" Cobra R's, Falken Ziex 255/50s, and 245/45s.
1984 Ford Thunderbird 3.8L "Drag Queen"
2009 Dodge Ram 1500 Lone Star Edition 5.7L Hemi 400hp, lex DOD14M Magnaflow retro-fit ler kit