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Distributor Question

I am looking to replace the distributor in my '85 Thunderbird with the stock 5.0, and have noticed that Rock Auto advises that there is a steel gear and a cast gear, and that they are not interchangeable.

Is there an easy way to tell which gears I have or do I just yank the dizzy out again and check?

The reason is a drivability issue, bucking under light acceleration mostly going up hills. I pulled KOEO codes and got a 14. On the Ford Fuel Injection site this shows to be "Two or more successive erratic Profile Ignition Pickup (PIP) pulses occurred, resulting in a possible engine miss or stall."

I replaced the Ignition Control Module on the side of the distributor with very little if any change. So I am wanting to replace the whole thing in one shot if possible since the car has somewhere over 400K if I am right. I figure a new dizzy wouldn't hurt, and it would save me from trying to pull the old one apart to get to the stator since I believe the new dizzy comes with one in it.


Sorry for the NOOB questions all the time.
1985 T'Bird 5.0
1987 Cougar 3.8
1992 T'bird Sport 5.0 HO

Distributor Question

Reply #1
86+ SEFI 5.0 with steel roller cam=steel distributor gear.
85 and down 5.0 with iron flat tappet cam=iron gear.
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

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Reply #2
Thank you very much for your help thunderjet302.
I will go ahead and order the cast gear one in a bit to have it ready for the install this weekend.
1985 T'Bird 5.0
1987 Cougar 3.8
1992 T'bird Sport 5.0 HO

Distributor Question

Reply #3
the new dizzy may come with a new stator assembly in it or you can replace the old one.

getting a new dizzy wont include motorcraft parts, probably cheap china knock off parts at best so look to be in there inside of 10k miles at worse case if not a  year or two.

It isnt worth the risk of not using motorcraft parts on those two items.
get em from the dealer if you can now.

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Reply #4
Good points, I will check to see if the dealer can get them. The one I was looking at on Rock Auto was a Motorcraft unit, but I will do a little reaserch and make sure the stator is a Motorcraft unit in there as well.

 I would also want to get the Motorcraft ignition control module, but since I just replaced that I may hold off on it for a few weeks until payday. I had just replaced the ICM a few months back, and am thinking the stator in the dizzy is bad now after the last ICM change last week that made little if any differance.

I can't see me fighting with getting the dizzy apart to replace the stator assembly. With the high mileage on the motor I am going to assume the dizzy is getting worn. I don't know what the car had done to it in the first 200k miles of it's life, but everything appears completly stock and unchanged aside from what I have replaced.
1985 T'Bird 5.0
1987 Cougar 3.8
1992 T'bird Sport 5.0 HO

Distributor Question

Reply #5
Okay, so the new dizzy is here and I want to make sure it is right.

The dizzy is stamped: E4ZE-12131-AA (as is the one in the car)


However, there is a sticker on the new one that reads: E5TE-12127-BA


and the Stator shows:E8ZE-12A112-A2A


The gear appears to be a cast to me:



Still need to look at the distributor cap, as I think this one requires one that uses two screws, where as the one in the car has two clips that hold it down. I think they are compatible(?), just need a different cap and rotor(?).

So, does that look right to you all? Sorry for the questions, but I figure it is better to ask before I mess it up.
1985 T'Bird 5.0
1987 Cougar 3.8
1992 T'bird Sport 5.0 HO

Distributor Question

Reply #6
as far as the cap goes , there is a "cap adapter" that screws to the distributor that the cap clips to , you will need to swap it from your old one .
Fox-less at the moment

 

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Reply #7
That makes sense, thanks hypostang.
1985 T'Bird 5.0
1987 Cougar 3.8
1992 T'bird Sport 5.0 HO