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Reply #30 – October 11, 2010, 01:16:59 PM

Quote from: LittleAngel1198;339031

we expect our kids to behave and be polite.... they are for the most part.... but they still have their moments.

you're lucky.. most parents would kill for kids who behave and don't need a beating.. i think the biggest problem these days is a good number of kids have ADD or ADHD.. and poor parenting doesn't help that fact

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Reply #31 – October 11, 2010, 03:00:26 PM

Quote from: turbo_88_XR7;339039

i think the biggest problem these days is a good number of kids have ADD or ADHD.. and poor parenting doesn't help that fact

That statement should be buttstuffyzed through and through.

Parents who spoil their kids rotten....the kids get what all that they want, then expect to get everything they point at at. Then become easily bored with what they have...it's a snowball effect, starts with the parents not growing hair on their balls and saying "no."

I think a lot, but not all of the "ADD" issue is that the parents don't have time, money, or imagination to keep their kids positively stimulated.

Back when I was little, say 7th grade through high school, I was labeled "dumb", "stupid" and lazy...I'm not, I just wanted to be outside doing stuff instead of sitting in a hot stinky classroom.

I got a spanking in 4th grade for not doing my work....that teacher went on to marry my cousin, there's no hurt feelings over it...I had it coming, and it did me some good.

Nowadays, if she pulled that, she'd be jailed. The kids would be awarded a judgement and probably undergo state-ordered counseling, and the school would lose a lot if not all state funding.

What a shaging miscarriage of common sense it all is. A little ass-kicking never hurt anybody..it's a character builder.

When it comes to kids having black eyes, busted lips, and bloody noses over discipline, either the parent or the kid (or both) have stepped over a line...THAT'S when someone needs to be called, I think.

But what do I know....:hick:

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Reply #32 – October 12, 2010, 01:52:17 AM

I can only think of a few times where my father put me in my place, and I deserved it every time. But me being the stupid teenager I was, I wish I would have listened to him then. I don't recall ever being spanked.

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Reply #33 – October 12, 2010, 12:21:32 PM

Lack of disipline = asshole kids.

I was raised in a "spanking when you earned it" household and I turned out pretty good. I had friends who only ever got yelled at.... There in jail, on drugs or just on welfare with kids and drinking problems.

Go figure.

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Reply #34 – October 12, 2010, 06:20:05 PM

Bullies will always be around, but for some reason kids raised to be 'real men/women' are very rare. Where are the other kids who can and will stand up to these bullies at, when they see this going on? I know Seamus will be raised knowing what's right and wrong, and to stand up to the wrong when he sees it. Coira already is.

If everybody was doing their job (all those responsibilities people spend most of their time trying to push off on everybody else) parents wouldn't have to watch their kids for suicidal tendencies caused by bullying. The blame lies on everyone who knew it was going on.

And my wife NEVER says, "Wait until your father gets home." She knows how to deal with them in all situations.

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Reply #35 – October 12, 2010, 07:12:04 PM

Quote from: oldraven;339149

. Where are the other kids who can and will stand up to these bullies at, when they see this going on?

That is quite true. I remember once when I was in high school one of my friends was getting made fun of by one guy a lot because he had a "JewFro" (Nothing racist against jews here, he just had really curly hair that grew out like an Afro) to the point where I could see him getting really angry and red-faced. He was a pretty shy person who didn't deal with confrontation very well. Well, long story short, I had had enough of this dude screwing with him, so I confronted him about not in a nice way, but not threatening. I ended up getting jumped that afternoon, nothing real bad, which I figured was coming, but he stopped messing with my friend Bobby.

I think part of why other kids don't stand up to them is for this reason, they don't want to get beat up/ made fun of as well. They are so set on "fitting in" that some lose sight of how to be righteous and stand up for what is right.

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Reply #36 – October 13, 2010, 11:40:37 AM

My boys always jumped in when they saw someone getting picked on... and most of you know my boys aren't tiny guys. LOL
When Dakota was in 9th grade there was a new kid at the school names Sam... (who has since become a part of our family because he is one of the boy's best friends)....anyway, Sam is Bishagual and he is just a little goofy... so he was getting picked on, that is until Cody stepped in... Sam used to offer him $5 a day to be his bodyguard. Cody told him keep his money, they were friends and no one would bother him again. And, no one did. Everyone at school know where Cody was, Hunter was, and no one wanted to mess with them.
The only time my boys got in trouble for fighting in school was once, when they got into a fist fight with each other over something stupid. LOL
They were more than willing to step in and handle it when another kid was being picked on at school. My kids' friends always end up being the 'misfits' because of that.
I had to laugh because when their friends all would hang out at our house, people would say "Oh, this kid hangs at your house? they are a trouble maker"
I always came back with "Not at my house they aren't".
The kids who came over were always trouble makers... we always called them the hoodlums of our town.... but when they were with us, they behaved and respected us.... and the ones that still come around, still do. Some of their parents couldn't believe the change in how their kids acted when they were with us.... but they knew we expected it so they were good.

I think kids don't stand up for each other anymore because they are afraid of becoming the target, or of being beat up.... or even getting in trouble at school. That's part of the problem now too, even when a kid is defending themselves or others, they get punished along with the offender because of the 'zero tolerance' stuff. So they aren't willing to jeopardize their record for someone else.

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Reply #37 – October 13, 2010, 12:46:28 PM

well spoken

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Reply #38 – October 13, 2010, 05:10:55 PM

wow... i wouldnt even do that at my worst enemies funeral. to me, that is probly the most disrespectful thing someone could do.
i cant even say what i would have done if i was at that funeral and saw that, kids or not.

i gave up on pondering what is wrong with kids anymore a long time ago, starts making me feel older than i am.
all i can say is im glad i grew up when and how i did, even though at the time i might not have felt that way.

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Reply #39 – October 13, 2010, 08:03:50 PM

I'm trying to figure out how all these depressed kids got ahold of the guns to shoot themselves with. Around here when kids killed themselves they jumped in front of semi's or trains.

I was bullied a lot when I was in middle school and early in high school. I wore really thick glasses and I hit my growth spurt early so I was 6' tall and only about 135 pounds so I was really skinny. On top of that I was really smart, always on honor roll and the kid you always see in the movies who just loves to answer every question.(although I always procrastinated on projects lol).

Because of those things people always called me nerdy and things like that. Then I was real clumsy back then too and that never worked in gym class. And wal-mart and goodwill clothes didn't help much either. It was hard to find clothes that fit me right, so I always wound up with "highwaters" and short shorts. To be honest, those things still bother me to this day. I don't ever wear shorts, even in the summer, and I always make sure to buy pants that are at least 2 inches too long. Things like that do leave sort of mental scars on you.

One thing I remember specifically was in science class we all sat at tables instead of desks and this kid threw some kleenexes or something and made a comment about it fell out of my pants. Well that rumor made it around a good ways for a while.

And stupid every day stuff went on for years. But in high school I joined ROTC and somewhere in there I learned to be above it and not take their . And eventually around 11-12 grade things like that really stopped happening to that altogether. I thing between that and the fact that people just grow out of throwing stuff like that at you, it just kinda goes away. Kids need to learn how to deal with it and not take it to heart.

I know its not fun, it never was but people take things to seriously these days. Between all the political correctness and the government going ape shiznit over things like spanking your kids, they're either growing up to soft, or with no respect.

I know that even with all the I took I never seriously felt like killing myself. I had ways to cope with things, and I think kids need to learn how to cope, either by putting up with it, getting back at them, or by telling someone about it, and getting them to do something about it.

I don't blame that guy one bit who jumped on the bus and started threatening his daughter's bullies. I probably would have done the same thing. But that's just the kind of person I am. I've always kind of let people walk all over me, but if it was my family and they were in trouble and they couldn't fix it themselves, I wouldn't hesitate to deal with it myself. I think if I was that girls father at that funeral, I don't know what I would have done about those girls. I would probably started something with their parents right then and there. That is wrong on so many levels. I don't think I could have put up with that at all.

I'm not saying its all the kids fault, or the parents fault, or even the schools fault, I just think its a bunch of things that need to be dealt with and if they're getting as bad as they are, who knows how much worse it will get.

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Reply #40 – October 15, 2010, 05:03:53 PM

As for the ADD thing, I think you need to get some REAL information on the disorder. ADD does NOT equal ass-hole. There are plenty of ass-hole kids who's parents, and doctors, will pass it off as ADD because they don't want to admit that they failed, but anyone who knows about the disorder knows it's BS. I was a good kid. My nephew who has ADHD is a good kid. He won't hang out with his friends on weekends, because he doesn't want to be around when they drink.

totallyadd.com

It's much more complex than being loud and excitable.

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Reply #41 – October 15, 2010, 10:35:51 PM

i was diagnosed with ADD when i was 7.. it's really hard to pay attention because your mind wanders very easily.. it makes some kids act up and start causing trouble because hy don't know what to o with themselves.. and sometimes it can take years to find the proper meds to control it.. luckily i was on ritalin for 34 years and switched to adderal until i was 16, when i learned how to control it myself.. a lot of dumbass kids these days act like they're bragging they have ADD like it makes them cool and use it as an excuse for near everything.. fact is, it really sucks