Cold Air Kit question... March 30, 2005, 10:47:40 PM So Im looking on Ebay at Mustang parts. I see about a million cold air intake parts for 89-93 Mustangs. But almost none for 88 and below. Is there really a difference? Will these parts work on my 86 with 5.0L? Quote Selected
Re: Cold Air Kit question... Reply #1 – March 30, 2005, 10:59:13 PM they are for mass air. Quote Selected
Re: Cold Air Kit question... Reply #2 – March 30, 2005, 11:01:31 PM Is that a smart changeover I need to do first? What is involved? Quote Selected
Re: Cold Air Kit question... Reply #3 – March 30, 2005, 11:41:27 PM well, if you want one of those cold air kits you would hae to get the maf meter housing assembly to make the cold air work without actually swappint the car to maf. in order to convert to maf you either need to swap in a HO and computer with it or at least the computer and HO cam. maf wont work with the SO 5.0 that came in the tbirds and cougars. Quote Selected
Re: Cold Air Kit question... Reply #4 – March 30, 2005, 11:45:55 PM I still have the SO and maf in my car. It requires moving pins in the computer harness. PITA!!I won't attempt ti again if I knew it was that hard. My car was laid up for about 2 weeks trying to figure out the problems. Quote Selected
Re: Cold Air Kit question... Reply #5 – March 30, 2005, 11:56:43 PM There are kits for non-Mass Air cars on E-Bay for about $40 or so.I'v seen them quite a few times.Keep looking.If I see one,I'll let you know. Quote Selected
Re: Cold Air Kit question... Reply #6 – March 31, 2005, 12:22:35 AM O.K.,items # 7963740353 and 7963129893. Made for non mass air.You'd better hurry,though.There time is almost up. Quote Selected
Re: Cold Air Kit question... Reply #7 – March 31, 2005, 07:27:45 AM Took me an hour to do my maf conversion,easy as pie. Quote Selected
Re: Cold Air Kit question... Reply #8 – March 31, 2005, 10:03:36 AM What sort of performance improvement is there with this conversion? Is this totally compatible with the EEC-IV system? Quote Selected
Re: Cold Air Kit question... Reply #9 – March 31, 2005, 02:19:52 PM first off QuoteWhat sort of performance improvement is there with this conversion? Is this totally compatible with the EEC-IV system?its sort of an add on the the eec-iv system. it was added in 1988 to california mustangs and the following year to all of them. i doubt you would see any improvement on a stock engine. the speed density mustang computers actually have a more agressive tune. the stock maf sensor is actually a restriction albiet probably not at a noticable rate. you would only need MAF if on a HO engine you wanted to go with a more radicle combination. with speed density the computer can not "learn" an engines new charictaristics like the MAF can with say, new heads (cams are a biggie) forced induction etc...if your engine is a SO(or slightly warmed over or a stock HO(or slightly warmed over) engine there is no need for the MAF. if you plan to modify the engine later than maf would be a good start although no actual performance gain will be apparent.well, as far as i know in order to do the maf conversion you need to use a MAF computer, sensor, harness and HO engine. the maf computer uses the HO/windsor fireing order (the SO the tbirds and cougars have use the different 289 fireing order) and require a cam with the same fireing order. (i suppose you could rewire the injectors and plugs to use a so cam? this would be a waste because the SO cant use an aftermarket cam because of the valve to piston clearance is very limited. a cam would be the biggest reason to use maf other than forced induction, or nos). also the stock MAF sensor is callibrated for 19lb injectors. the SO uses 14lb injectors. check out this LINK . it will give you the bottom line on the MAF deal. basically, without the HO you cant do the MAF conversion. if you DO have the HO the conversion is easy and shouldnt take long. Quote Selected
Re: Cold Air Kit question... Reply #10 – March 31, 2005, 03:11:16 PM Good stuff, thank you! Quote Selected
Re: Cold Air Kit question... Reply #11 – March 31, 2005, 08:11:39 PM My 02 on Cold air intakes. Most not all cold air intakes are a waste of good money for performance. They do look better than factory but not all perform any better. MAC has been in the 5.0 hop up business from the get go and while not the most popular of the mustang hop up company's I beleive they do not put out products that do not perform. This is just speculation on my part though. For instance Way back when they had the best hp improvement on unequal 15/8 shorties for a stock 5.0 12 hp if I remember right. They do not sell a header for a 5.4L ford truck. Any guess why? there is not much if any improvement on that enguine with a shorty header. Other company's do sell them. Anyway I use them as an example for my cold air intake theory. Most aftermarket CAI's (which are really hot enguine compartment air intakes) for the 5.0 came out with a smooth tube and a cone K&N style filter. Now Mac and others sell the "fenderwell" style which actually do pull in colder air however not any colder than the stock airbox that ford origionally put in the "fenderwell" Just pull the box out, take off the silencer and bam you have an instant high performance air intake. A stock paper filter when new and clean flows as good as a K&N. The difference is that when dirty a K&N flows better. So pull the silencer and put in a new $4.00 paper filter and save yourself 150.00. Thats just my opinion not based on magazine dyno tests but what Ive noticed. Also if you are not planning on a cam swap and not making over 300hp where you would need bigger injectors then stay speed density. I noticed a slight improvement in drivability and milage but a slight decrease in WOT power when switching to maf. Quote Selected
Re: Cold Air Kit question... Reply #12 – March 31, 2005, 09:28:21 PM I hear what you are saying. Currently, the car has the airbox removed and a K&N filter jammed on the end of the intake tube My plans for the car include a 347 smallblock, and the Holley SysteMax kit. The main reason I was asking is hot air being sucked from behind the radiator, and the whole setup looks like doo-doo. :hick: Quote Selected
Re: Cold Air Kit question... Reply #13 – March 31, 2005, 11:20:35 PM WELL...the car allready comes with a cold air intake. sure removing the silencer deffinetly helps but the stock tube routing sucks. not so much as the bend but the texture of the inside of it and its small diameter. even the 40 dollar kit is an improvement with its bigger size and smothe bends. they look a lot better too. i would never buy a "cold air intake" that doesnt go in the fender. the open air element filters that dont go in the fender are trash. they take in engine bay temp air but more importantly turbulant air. thats no good. the paper flat pannel filters for the stock air box are restrictive too. a flat pannel k&n would be better. a paper filter requires air to be pulled through it. the open air elements are screens with psitivlt charged oil in them the oil attrcts like a tv does dust. the air flows more "through" them. Quote Selected
Re: Cold Air Kit question... Reply #14 – April 01, 2005, 10:02:08 PM The kit I bought I needed to cut the chrome piping a little to make things fit better. I also noticed while the new air filter has threads, the fender air tube doesn't and uses a hose clamp to hold the filter to the tube.Replacing the filter may be easier if there is a kit out there that has the matching threads to the air filter so it can be just screwed on instead of hose clamped. But I don't know if any of the kits have that - maybe all have the hose clamp. Just makes it slightly tougher when replacing the filter. Quote Selected
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