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AOD Input shaft seal???

What's involved with this? Cant seem to find any discussion...anywhere really. Is it like a rear main seal, just stab it with a screwdriver yank it, tap in the new one?
1987 20th Anniversary Cougar, 302 "5.0" GT-40 heads (F3ZE '93 Cobra) and TMoss Ported H.O. intake, H.O. camshaft
2.5" Duals, no cats, Flowmaster 40s, Richmond 3.73s w/ Trac-Lok, maxed out Baumann shift kit, 3000 RPM Dirty Dog non-lock TC
Aside from the Mustang crinkle headers, still looks like it's only 150 HP...
1988 Black XR7 Trick Flow top end, Tremec 3550
1988 Black XR7 Procharger P600B intercooled, Edelbrock Performer non-RPM heads, GT40 intake AOD, 13 PSI @5000 RPM. 93 octane

AOD Input shaft seal???

Reply #1
I'm pretty sure the seal has a flat lip.  You should be able to pry it out and replace it once you have the trans out.  I did it on a chevy once.  I can take pictures of the AOD I have sitting in the garage if you think it will help

You can kind of see it here

AOD Input shaft seal???

Reply #2
YES awesome thank you so much. The one thing I DID find was some guy taking pictures of him replacing the front pump on his C6...or maybe it was just the seal..but he pulled the valvebody out, the thing above that whatever that is....like took out the gear train or something and had the whole shebang apart to pull the front pump. Sounds like I *don't* have to do that. I was thinking I'm going to go with a high-stall converter this year, Ill do that at the same time as this, then it will stop dripping tranny fluid, and fluid altogether for that matter. Then mom = happy. Finally. LOL
1987 20th Anniversary Cougar, 302 "5.0" GT-40 heads (F3ZE '93 Cobra) and TMoss Ported H.O. intake, H.O. camshaft
2.5" Duals, no cats, Flowmaster 40s, Richmond 3.73s w/ Trac-Lok, maxed out Baumann shift kit, 3000 RPM Dirty Dog non-lock TC
Aside from the Mustang crinkle headers, still looks like it's only 150 HP...
1988 Black XR7 Trick Flow top end, Tremec 3550
1988 Black XR7 Procharger P600B intercooled, Edelbrock Performer non-RPM heads, GT40 intake AOD, 13 PSI @5000 RPM. 93 octane

AOD Input shaft seal???

Reply #3
It might be leaking from your pan gasket.  Its pretty common.  If its leaking from the front seal it would be dripping out the bottom of the bell housing.

Let me know if you want pictures of anything, Ive got a junked AOD in the garage.

AOD Input shaft seal???

Reply #4
Yea that picture is plenty for now but I'll let ya know.
 
It's definitely from the front, it does come out the weep hole and only from there.
1987 20th Anniversary Cougar, 302 "5.0" GT-40 heads (F3ZE '93 Cobra) and TMoss Ported H.O. intake, H.O. camshaft
2.5" Duals, no cats, Flowmaster 40s, Richmond 3.73s w/ Trac-Lok, maxed out Baumann shift kit, 3000 RPM Dirty Dog non-lock TC
Aside from the Mustang crinkle headers, still looks like it's only 150 HP...
1988 Black XR7 Trick Flow top end, Tremec 3550
1988 Black XR7 Procharger P600B intercooled, Edelbrock Performer non-RPM heads, GT40 intake AOD, 13 PSI @5000 RPM. 93 octane

AOD Input shaft seal???

Reply #5
I dont know of any tricks either,, transmissions gotta pull back off the engine such a large amount just so you can drop the converter down and out.  At best, you might be able to support the tail end with a jack, install two long ass bolts at the 10 and 2 oclock, remove the rest of the bolts and slide it back.

I have made a resolution,, if i have to dig into something that isnt going to be fun on a car, im gonna buy a part that gives me something in return to go in.  The front seal job isnt fun but putting in a new (freshly filled) torque converter might be though:D

As for the install,,, yep, just make yourself a tool to pry it out or get under the lip like stated.  The install is identical to the tailshaft seal install.


Now if you wanna go super cheap:hick: , and you dont see anything wrong with the rubber,
remove the spring, find the "link", pop it apart, trim off 3-5 coils of the spring, snap it back together, install spring back on the seal, lubricate inside of rubber lip, install converter.  When your latitude / longitued puts you in iraq with no resources,, you figure out how to fix  that normally goes in the trash.


AOD Input shaft seal???

Reply #6
I don't think the bellhousing would clear the back of the trans tunnel.  By the time you have done all the work, lowering it to the ground would be a minor task (and IMHO a safety must).  That sucker is heavy.

:flame:

AOD Input shaft seal???

Reply #7
your prob right,,
I was fortunate on another vehicle of mine (1990) 351w with a 5 speed.  trans slid back perfect with two long bolts holding it while the rear cross memeber acted as my pallet.  40lb+ (flywheel) of steel waiting to drop on my head.  Ever tried to hold a truck flywheel up to the block and align the crank holes and be off every frickin time?

I went through 3 ring gears on that fugger before i figured out the problem.

AOD Input shaft seal???

Reply #8
Quote from: jcassity;253263
Ever tried to hold a truck flywheel up to the block and align the crank holes and be off every frickin time?


Had a Nissan pathfinder that, after doing the clutch, the trans wouldn't seat in the new clutch.  I wiggled and giggled till i thought my arms were going to fall off.  I took it down re-aligned the clutch and tried again. Still, no luck.  Turned out that some of the splines had burrs.  Filed them smooth and slid together.  My arms hurt for a week.:punchballs:

 

AOD Input shaft seal???

Reply #9
What I should have said is I actualy have had the tranny down before, last summer when I *thought* I was getting a better converter. Got the wrong thing and only gained maybe 200 rpm of stall speed.
 
I had a buddy with me and he'd likely be able to help out again. However I was actually thinking up something I could make, a box essentially that will just fit the tranny pan and I can make work with my floorjack specifically etc etc...thought it up one night laying in bed actually. :hick:  Even without that we lowered it and reinstalled it once without problem, he knew better than me so he put the converter on, he knew how many clicks to listen for, when it was PROPERLY seated.
 
Im gonna go with an Alabama Converters night stalker 2200-2800 rpm. Talking to one of their techs apparently between my motor gears weight of the car he said that oughta do 2500-2800 rpm so GOOD. lol
 
I have to have the converter shipped to my buddy's house or grandparents or something, that will be done under the guise of "mom Im just replacing the seal so the DRIVEWAY will stay nice! :D" No more money spent on performance, no that's foolish and I'm going to definitely get in trouble. :rolleyes:
1987 20th Anniversary Cougar, 302 "5.0" GT-40 heads (F3ZE '93 Cobra) and TMoss Ported H.O. intake, H.O. camshaft
2.5" Duals, no cats, Flowmaster 40s, Richmond 3.73s w/ Trac-Lok, maxed out Baumann shift kit, 3000 RPM Dirty Dog non-lock TC
Aside from the Mustang crinkle headers, still looks like it's only 150 HP...
1988 Black XR7 Trick Flow top end, Tremec 3550
1988 Black XR7 Procharger P600B intercooled, Edelbrock Performer non-RPM heads, GT40 intake AOD, 13 PSI @5000 RPM. 93 octane