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looking for tips/info thunderbird/LSC

its been about 9 years since my last thunderbird and XR7 cougar were forcefully removed by my parents. it was an 88 XR7 and a 86turbo coupe swapped to 302/T-5.....well thats the past now to the discussion...

im looking to make a new custom car and would like some tips/suggestions/info

car will be a V8 and a 5 speed thats a given now my questions were where is a mark 7 LSC hiding the extra 500lb over the t-bird?

well things I like LSC is 5 lug 4 wheel disk all have floor shifter location

thunderbird i love the look but 87,88 are getting hard to find.

so there it is ide love your input into the matter to help me decide.

looking for tips/info thunderbird/LSC

Reply #1 –
tbirds have floor shifter too, same with cougars

Mark 7's have ALOT more options then the birds. Air ride, full power seats(the seats weight almost 200 pounds I beileve), I mean they have LOTS of options that stack on weight. I own one, and yes people do 5 speed swaps to them all the time. If your gonna do one, BRAKES, SUSPENSION, then trans and motor.
Join http://www.FordvsChevy.com theres TONS of mark 7 guys on there with INSANE marks.
RIP 1988 and 1990 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
I welcomed the dark side and currently am driving a 2000 Dodge Durango SLT plus, with a 5.9, Code named project "Night Runner"
Shes black on black, fully loaded, with headers, 180 tstat, e fan, straight exhaust into a cherry bomb vortex ler, full tune up, ported intake and T/B, MSD coil, and round aircleaner.
Mods to come: Fully rebuilt and heavily modded 46RE, and a richmond rachet locker.
my $300 beater ;)
R.I.P Kayleigh Raposa 12/18/90 - 2/24/07

looking for tips/info thunderbird/LSC

Reply #2 –
Quote from: daboss351;239474
tbirds have floor shifter too, same with cougars


But the vast majority do not...

looking for tips/info thunderbird/LSC

Reply #3 –
Ive always considered myself lucky to have a 88 with moon roof keyless entry and a spoiler and floor shift... They are out there just hidin.....
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Just enjoyin the ride!!!!

looking for tips/info thunderbird/LSC

Reply #4 –
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where is a mark 7 LSC hiding the extra 500lb over the t-bird?
the mark is also longer to start with. more metal, more weight
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***** Project "EVOLUTION" 1987 Cougar LS  & 1985 Cougar Convertible *****
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5.0 HO 306 roller block, machined GT-40P heads, Wiseco dished forged pistons, Eagle forged floating I-beam connecting rods, Lunati pushrods, ARP bolts, Scorpion aluminum 1.6 rockers, Comp Cams Magnum 266HR, Explorer intake, 65mm TB, MAF Conversion, 19# injectors, Ford Racing stainless P-headers, 2-1/2" cat-less exhaust w/ Flowtech Afterburner lers , SC AOD with 2800 BDR torque converter, 3.73 T-Lok rear, CHE rear control arms, full 2-1/2" frame w/1" jacking rails & seat supports, Rear disk brakes, Turbine wheels, All original interior w/ floor shift upgrade .......
Pretty much every panel on my 87 is new, rebuilt, or re constructed. :D
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Reply #5 –
not alot longer... If you want light, you might want to check out the 80-82 box birds. There also a fox body.

Otherwise, I would look for a 88 sport or xr7, for better suspension/sway bars, larger differential and if you go with a 5.0, its already there. They also had consoles.

Also, 84-86 turbo coupe/xr7's are slightly lighter, have traction lock, and consoles.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #6 –
only about 4'' longer. It adds to the extras that it has over a bird.
It may be a bit wider too. I'm not sure though
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***** Project "EVOLUTION" 1987 Cougar LS  & 1985 Cougar Convertible *****
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5.0 HO 306 roller block, machined GT-40P heads, Wiseco dished forged pistons, Eagle forged floating I-beam connecting rods, Lunati pushrods, ARP bolts, Scorpion aluminum 1.6 rockers, Comp Cams Magnum 266HR, Explorer intake, 65mm TB, MAF Conversion, 19# injectors, Ford Racing stainless P-headers, 2-1/2" cat-less exhaust w/ Flowtech Afterburner lers , SC AOD with 2800 BDR torque converter, 3.73 T-Lok rear, CHE rear control arms, full 2-1/2" frame w/1" jacking rails & seat supports, Rear disk brakes, Turbine wheels, All original interior w/ floor shift upgrade .......
Pretty much every panel on my 87 is new, rebuilt, or re constructed. :D
Join us on Facebook
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Reply #7 –
width is a little more(my rear end is wider then a birds)
My car has a nice set up for road race and drag because of the air bags. Great weight transfer and all that. Bolt in a ADDCO rear sway bar, turbo coupe front, throw in some SN95 front struts, fox mustang rear shocks with adapter brackets, and lower it by moving a sensor and you got a nice handleing car.
RIP 1988 and 1990 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
I welcomed the dark side and currently am driving a 2000 Dodge Durango SLT plus, with a 5.9, Code named project "Night Runner"
Shes black on black, fully loaded, with headers, 180 tstat, e fan, straight exhaust into a cherry bomb vortex ler, full tune up, ported intake and T/B, MSD coil, and round aircleaner.
Mods to come: Fully rebuilt and heavily modded 46RE, and a richmond rachet locker.
my $300 beater ;)
R.I.P Kayleigh Raposa 12/18/90 - 2/24/07

looking for tips/info thunderbird/LSC

Reply #8 –
1.5" over all is the track width supposedly. And thats only like 86? and newer marks. Before that they were mustang width.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

looking for tips/info thunderbird/LSC

Reply #9 –
I'm sure most of the extra weight is from the ton of options and gadgets they threw in. You couldn't really get a stripped Mark VII. Although that would've been cool. :hick: The only options were alarm, sunroof, trak-lok, JBL stereo, Front license plate bracket, auto dim mirror, block heater, and Kali emissions. Everything else was standard. The carpet alone felt like it probably weighed 60 lbs because of all the insulation and mass backing . :hick:

It varies from year to year, but 1988 LSC curb weight is 3772. Compared to 3450 for a 1988 5.0 Sport (1988 XR7 is 3485) that isn't that much different. 322 lbs.

Of course you get the HO 302 in the Mark so that pretty much evens it out. :D :giggle:

1987-93 Mustang
56.6" front track
57.0" rear track
100.5" wheelbase

1994-98 Mustang
60.6" front track
59.1" rear track
101.3" wheelbase

Continental Mark VII 1984-92
58.4" front track
59.0" rear track
wheelbase 108.5"

Thunderbird/Cougar 1983-86
58.1" front track
58.5" rear track
wheelbase 104.0"

Thunderbird/Cougar 1987-88
58.1" front track
58.5" rear track
104.2" wheelbase

Track width is .3" wider on front and .5" wider on back.

The wheelbase is 4.5" longer on Mark VII than the T-Bird.

The Mustang is a lot smaller. Except the track on 94-98

All years of Mark VII have the same chassis dimensions.

I think all the Mark VIIs got the 8.8" axle in 86.
Matt
1984 Thunderbird - 89 302 HO, GT40 heads w/ Trick Flow springs, E303 cam, Edelbrock Performer 289 intake and 600 cfm 4bbl, Mustang headers, Jegs o/r H pipe, Dynomax lers, Mustang AOD and shifter, Mustang 8.8 w/ 3.73s, 3G alternator, Mustang front and rear sway bars, KYB 87-88 Turbo Coupe shocks and struts, and 11" front brakes.

1988 Mustang GT - GT40 heads, Explorer intake, 70mm throttle body, 70mm MAF, Crane 1.7 rrs, E303 cam, Kirban Kwik shifter w/ Pro 5.0 deluxe handle, aluminum clutch quadrant and firewall adjuster, o/r h pipe, Dynomax lers, 3G alternator, aluminum radiator, and 3.27 gears.
 
1986 Cougar 5.0, 1989 Mark VII LSC 5 speed, 1980 Mercury Zephyr 4 door (sold)

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Reply #10 –
1 square foot of 20 Gauge sheet metal weighs 1.5 lbs
quarter windows are larger too
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***** Project "EVOLUTION" 1987 Cougar LS  & 1985 Cougar Convertible *****
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5.0 HO 306 roller block, machined GT-40P heads, Wiseco dished forged pistons, Eagle forged floating I-beam connecting rods, Lunati pushrods, ARP bolts, Scorpion aluminum 1.6 rockers, Comp Cams Magnum 266HR, Explorer intake, 65mm TB, MAF Conversion, 19# injectors, Ford Racing stainless P-headers, 2-1/2" cat-less exhaust w/ Flowtech Afterburner lers , SC AOD with 2800 BDR torque converter, 3.73 T-Lok rear, CHE rear control arms, full 2-1/2" frame w/1" jacking rails & seat supports, Rear disk brakes, Turbine wheels, All original interior w/ floor shift upgrade .......
Pretty much every panel on my 87 is new, rebuilt, or re constructed. :D
Join us on Facebook
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_137541156293768&ap=1
 

looking for tips/info thunderbird/LSC

Reply #11 –
My fat ass fully loaded 88 T-bird weighs about 3700lbs so hey it weighs just as much as a Mark VII :hick:
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.