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air/fuel gauge question

i put a air/ fuel gauge in my car and it works but the passenger side when driving or reving up it always stays at lean what could be the cause or the problem of this?:cougarsmily:
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air/fuel gauge question

Reply #1
is it a wideband? that gauge would be very inaccurate if used on your stock O2 sensor.
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Reply #2
this one is for stock o2 sensor
84 el camino ss-daily driver(efi mild sbc,2004r, posi 3:42 rear.)
84 mercury cougar v6- was a v6/ nitrous drag car, going back to mostly stock
81 chevy malibu-protouring/  drag car.( efi sbc supercharged 283 that will rev to the moon, 2004r, 4:11 posi rear)

air/fuel gauge question

Reply #3
then all you have is a small light show
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5.0L/4R70W/8.8"/5-lug/3" Exhuast


air/fuel gauge question

Reply #4
What you have is a Narrow band gauge. To get a good soild reading you need a Wide Band setup. They cost about $150-300. But if that gauge is hooked up right and it is reading way lean checkyou fuel pressure. Also make sure that the computer is showing a lean code don't just go by that gauge. investgate!
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air/fuel gauge question

Reply #5
Narrowband O2 can only tell you if you are above or below or at 14.7. It can't tell you by how much. So those lights are pretty much a guess. Hince the "light show" everyone refers to.

Here's some reading from Autometer.

Quote from: Autometer
Narrow Band O2 Sensors began to appear on vehicles with the advent of fuel injection in the 1980’s. Their purpose was to monitor component degradation (i.e. fuel injectors, vacuum leaks) of vehicles as they acspoogeulated miles. Their basic job was to let the computer know whether the vehicle was running at an air/fuel ratio of 14.7:1 under idle (ideal ratio for gasoline engines), moderate acceleration, and cruise conditions, and if it wasn’t, to “trim” the injector pulse-width to either slightly lean or richen the engine. When the computer is paying attention to the input from the O2 sensor, the engine is operating in a “closed-loop” capacity. Under heavier acceleration or wide-open throttle the computer ignores the O2 sensor because it requires an air/fuel ratio other than 14.7:1, which is outside the design parameters of the sensor. This is known as “open-loop” operation. The sensor lets the computer know if the engine is running above or below 14.7:1 by sending voltage to the computer in a range between 0 and 1 volt, usually sweeping between the two extremes of this scale. Auto Meter’s traditional narrow-band air/fuel ratio gauges are simply a voltmeter for this signal. This can be seen by the repeated sweeping back and forth of the gauge in most idle, light throttle, and cruise conditions. To summarize, a narrow band O2 sensor is only able to tell a computer (or gauge, for that matter) whether an engine is operating above or below a 14.7:1 air/fuel ratio.

So your probably sitting there wondering that if Autometer admits that a narrowband O2 gauge that they sell is utterly useless besides indicating whether it is in Open or Closed Loop... why the **** do they call it an A/F Ratio Gauge??? You'd be wondering the same thing as I after I bought my so-called A/F Ratio Gauge.
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Reply #6
Invest in a wideband  would be my suggestion as going by the narrow band is not only highly inaccurate but also as your sensor degrades the readings become more and more unrealistic. You could have a dead/dying o2 causing the lean indication.
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