Lug Centric Vs Hub Centric Wheels Troubles

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Lug Centric Vs Hub Centric Wheels Troubles

November 18, 2006, 01:07:38 AM

I read a lot of debate on the web about using lug centric wheels on hubcentric cars, but concluded that most troubles were from improper torquing etc. Even the instuctions tell you to check the lug nut torque often.

But after finding two studs out of 4 sheared off on my car, I've concluded I don't have the mustard to check the torque on these lugcentric wheels as much as they must need checking.

I only used these as opposed to Mustang wheels to get a better offset for my rear wheels from the rear end swap.

Belows the pic of the damage, as well as a view of the hub ring that has to be used with these wheels.

Anyone else have opinions on these one wheel fits all aftermarket lugcentric wheels?

Lug Centric Vs Hub Centric Wheels Troubles

Reply #1 – November 18, 2006, 01:34:30 PM

I prefer hubcentric....

That ring that is required to be used with those wheels indicates that they are meant to be used as hubcentric and not lugcentric.

What the hell are you doing to shear off studs?

Lug Centric Vs Hub Centric Wheels Troubles

Reply #2 – November 18, 2006, 07:26:43 PM

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What the hell are you doing to shear off studs?

Don't you remember? I'm the guy who used the SN95 ball joints with Fox spindles- That didn't kill me so I figured I'd try driving around with only two lug nuts...

The hubcentric rings never really seemed to seat perfectly on the axle. Maybe a tolerance problem? I did Torque em all by hand.

There was a slight vibration at 45-50 MPH, and even took it to the shop to check wheel balance (which was ok), and have them look at the wheel centering on hub, which they couldn't see why they didn't fit better either.

The studs broke at a slow speed very tight turn. Only knew that one stud broke because the house I was parked at found it. The 2nd stud basically fell off when I removed the wheel to check it out.

There is all this internet chatter about the hub ring adapters not really holding the weight on these wheels, which without the adapters are lugcentric. Heck I did see they sell plastic hub ring adapters, so the weight storry seems to make sense.

So maybe the shop I took it to to have them check the problem out may have over torqued the studs, or maybe there was some rust or something that was keeping the wheels from centering, that may have broke free on the road, resulting in the lugs effectively loosening causing this?

Its don't know if its safe to put em back on...

Lug Centric Vs Hub Centric Wheels Troubles

Reply #3 – November 18, 2006, 11:22:29 PM

Back when I had my '88 Cougar I had the rims drilled for the Fox pattern (they were off a '70-ish Datsun 240Z) and had some hubcentric rings made. I dropped off the rims and an old rotor and the machine shop did the rest. They actually even pressed the hubcentric rings into the wheels for me. Cost me $150, which when the $50 cost of the rims was added in, made it well worth it to have unique and badass-looking wheels on the Cat...