what have we hear? January 31, 2006, 06:08:35 PM http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/83-86-88-THUNDERBIRD-PANHARD-BAR-GROUND-POUNDER_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ42609QQitemZ8033815034QQrdZ1found this on ebay, never saw one for our cars before. any of the suspension guys have any comments as to if its actualy for a tbird not a stang? Quote Selected
what have we hear? Reply #1 – January 31, 2006, 06:18:50 PM The pan hard bar is so you can ditch the upper control arm as to get rid of the bind. I want to say one of the after market company like Racer Walsh and maybe Maximum motorsports made a set. Quote Selected
what have we hear? Reply #2 – January 31, 2006, 06:42:44 PM Does a mustang panhard bar not fit a Thunderbird?Anyway you can't "ditch" the upper control arms with just a panhard bar, unless you want the axle to fall out of the car You gotta have a torque arm or Watts linkage or something along those lines, also.A panhard bar would be nice to stop the side to side movement of the rear axle though, I heard there's an excessive amount with the factory setup. Quote Selected
what have we hear? Reply #3 – January 31, 2006, 06:47:30 PM The panhard bar only requires 3 links the lowers and the bar. If you look at most FWD cars they are setup this way. You solid mount the lower links so they only move at the torque box. Quote Selected
what have we hear? Reply #4 – January 31, 2006, 06:51:43 PM yeah, that auction cought my attention earlier. i remember hearing of "groundpounder" products. i dont know off hand if they are still in buisness or not but it would be worth trying too contact them. arent there at least a few guuys around here running a panhard bar from a stang in their car? Quote Selected
what have we hear? Reply #5 – January 31, 2006, 06:54:40 PM I would think the mustang bar would work becasue the control arm mounts are in the same place on the axle. Quote Selected
what have we hear? Reply #6 – January 31, 2006, 06:55:25 PM you need a torque arm and a panhard rod or a watts linkage setup to ditch the uppers. either or is a no-go. the torque arm is what creates the 3-link.and yes you can use a mustang panhard rod. Quote Selected
what have we hear? Reply #7 – January 31, 2006, 07:08:55 PM uhh... this...doesn't look as safe as this... IMO. Quote Selected
what have we hear? Reply #8 – January 31, 2006, 07:16:11 PM not even close id say... MM kicks ass.... Quote Selected
what have we hear? Reply #9 – January 31, 2006, 07:48:34 PM You can't just ditch the upper arms.....you need someway to stabilize the rear axle in rotation...you remove the upper arms and it just falls forward (or backwards). A P-hard bar is just for lateral location.The main problem with most Mustang P-hard bars is the fact that on a Tbird the gas tank gets in the way. It will vary from manf to manf on whether it will fit or not clearance-wise. With that issue out of the way, yes they will fit. Quote Selected
what have we hear? Reply #10 – January 31, 2006, 10:04:37 PM on that note, are there any factory or good factory oem quality replacement gas tanks that will fit properly under the tbird. theres no need for the 22 gal monster thats under there realy. i can live with it but it would be nice too have something a little smaller in there sumped too the rear. not realy interested in a racing cell though.... Quote Selected
what have we hear? Reply #11 – February 20, 2006, 04:53:07 PM Quote from: slamedcatThe panhard bar only requires 3 links the lowers and the bar. If you look at most FWD cars they are setup this way. FWD cars are set up like that because the rear end does not have to power the car, so the rear axle is not trying to rotate. In a RWD, the very moment you apply power the axle is trying to rotate upward - the axle is trying to spin backward just as hard as the wheels are trying to go forward Quote Selected
what have we hear? Reply #12 – February 21, 2006, 07:16:21 AM Quote from: Chuck W The main problem with most Mustang P-hard bars is the fact that on a Tbird the gas tank gets in the way. It will vary from manf to manf on whether it will fit or not clearance-wise. With that issue out of the way, yes they will fit.Do you know of anyone that has installed a MM Panhard rod with the factory tank? Quote Selected
what have we hear? Reply #13 – February 21, 2006, 08:19:26 AM Quote from: darkthunderDo you know of anyone that has installed a MM Panhard rod with the factory tank?No, and I should have at least test-fit my buddy's bracket before he installed it in his car. I'm going to be building my own:hick: Quote Selected
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