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mind if i bounce this off you guys?

not tbird related. it is a ford though. my 96 2.3 ranger decided it doesnt need to start....here it goes:
pop starts fine
brand new starter (today)
brand new big ass battery (today)
firewall selanoid known to be good
inspected all the power cables and they look fine
flywheel looks great teeth look fine

okay..
 the starter clicks. sounds like its engaguing the flywheel but will not turn it. i marked the flywheel with paint and i have plenty of contact with the teeth.
 with the starter removed but wired and grounded to the block and the turn of the key it works properly. it slides out and spins.
install it again...no dice
the only thing i can think of is the starter isnt getting the power it needs. i cant find anything wrong, not working or otherwise just f****d up.

i need this thing to get to work so any help would be greatly appreciated....thanks again...john
:america: 1988 Thunderbird Sport, Former 4.6 DOHC T56 conversion project.

Rest of the country, Welcome to Massachusettes. Enjoy your stay.

 
Halfbreed... Mango Orange Y2K Mustang GT
FRPP complete 2000 Cobra engine swap, T56 n' junk...
~John~

Re: mind if i bounce this off you guys?

Reply #1
Have you tried turning the engine by hand? It could be seized...

If it's not seized try turning the lights on while you crank. If the lights dim considerably the starter is drawing a lot of juice but may not be able to turn the engine. If the lights don't dim the starter isn't getting any power.
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1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣

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yeah, i forgot to mention that...the engine turns fine at the crank pully with a ratchet. the motors good. it popstarts fine and runs fine. im out of ideas..i had to walk away from it tonight cause im ready to through a fit......
:america: 1988 Thunderbird Sport, Former 4.6 DOHC T56 conversion project.

Rest of the country, Welcome to Massachusettes. Enjoy your stay.

 
Halfbreed... Mango Orange Y2K Mustang GT
FRPP complete 2000 Cobra engine swap, T56 n' junk...
~John~

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OK, do the light thing. If the starter is drawing a bunch of power it may be binding - perhaps it's too tight to the flywheel? It also could be binding inside under load - a loose bushing or bent armature could cause that...
2015 Mustang GT Premium - 5.0, 6-speed, Guard Green - too much awesome for one car

1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣

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inspected all the power cables and they look fine
That includes the ground cables?
Bad ground from engine block to frame and/or battery could restrict power. Try it with a jumper cable from block or starter mounting bolt to battery (-).
Death awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth.

1988 5.0 Bird, mostly stock, partly not, now gone to T-Bird heaven.
1990 Volvo 740GL. 114 tire-shredding horsies, baby!

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awsome guys thanks...it ended up being a ground. turns out that someone before i bought it must have changed a motor mount and never bolted through the ground. they must have had it tucked away just right because it took at least the 35k miles i put on it to work its way out of where it was. it didnt look like it had been secured in years. i cant belive i never had any glitches or problems with it before. anyway...looks like i spent project money on a starter and battery i didnt need. they were expensive...that  me off. i feel better that everything is back to ormal though....
:america: 1988 Thunderbird Sport, Former 4.6 DOHC T56 conversion project.

Rest of the country, Welcome to Massachusettes. Enjoy your stay.

 
Halfbreed... Mango Orange Y2K Mustang GT
FRPP complete 2000 Cobra engine swap, T56 n' junk...
~John~

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Reply #6
my dads 89 bird did the same thing, shame i didnt see this thread soon enough to let ya know
It's Gumby's fault.

 

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shame i didnt see this thread soon enough to let ya know
Yep, you snooze, you lose.
I guessed right, and I got there first. 
I am the man!  HOO-YEAH!!!
Death awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth.

1988 5.0 Bird, mostly stock, partly not, now gone to T-Bird heaven.
1990 Volvo 740GL. 114 tire-shredding horsies, baby!