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Alternator problem after cluster swap messup?

Reply #15
There needs to be a resistor... Let me quote another thread I found.
Quote from: MasterBlaster;3712
Did you put in a resistor between terminals A4 and A6? If not, your alternator will never charge. Non-buttstuffog cars use a cluster with a warning lamp to supply the alt with "start-up" power via the ignition switch. There's also a parallel "back-up" 500 ohm resistor installed across the bulb just in case it burns out.

No resistor or bulb = no start-up current = no charge.

From the chart on the bottom half of Sam's page:

 ALT lamp (IAR out) Light Green / Red - Plug A, terminal 4
 ALT feed from IGN (IAR in) Grey / Yellow - Plug A, terminal 6

Here's another from Eric's Coolcats site:
http://www.coolcats.net/media/elec2tc.pdf
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
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Alternator problem after cluster swap messup?

Reply #16
Hope that helps.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

Alternator problem after cluster swap messup?

Reply #17
awesome so all i need to do is get a 500 ohm resister and and wire the grey/yellow wire to a key on power source?
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Alternator problem after cluster swap messup?

Reply #18
Wire it to the ltgreen/red and the grey/yellow unless I'm reading it wrong. You need a load to get the alt going. The base dash uses a 194 bulb in the battery light as a load to get the alt to kick on and then has a backup 500 ohm resistor in case the bulb burns out.

You could likely just try clipping a bulb to those wires with some alligator clips temporarily to see if the cars starts charging.

Not sure if the amp guage will work this way, but it should get the alt charging again. I'm still looking through diagrams trying to figure out the cluster wiring.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

Alternator problem after cluster swap messup?

Reply #19
The gray/yellow wire is wired the  ignition switch and should be hot with the ignition in RUN.
Since your buttstuffog cluster doesn't have a warning light, just hook the gray/yellow wire to the light green/red wire.
You don't need a resister.

The diagram I posted is 88. It is different than 87. It has two  more fuse links and is hooked up different.

Alternator problem after cluster swap messup?

Reply #20
well i did that and now none of my dash lights work is there a fuse somewhere that might have went out?
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Alternator problem after cluster swap messup?

Reply #21
not even the light on my radio works the car is charging now though
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Alternator problem after cluster swap messup?

Reply #22
alright thanks guys i figured it out the light grey/ blue wire needs to be wired to the the grey/yellow one
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