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Tube from valve cover......

Is the tube that goes from the passenger side valve cover, to the throttle body, necessary? Can it be deleted?
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

Tube from valve cover......

Reply #1
Yes it is part of the closed crankcase pcv system. But you can install a valve cover breather in place of the tube. have a great weekend
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Reply #2
Yep. It's part of the pcv system. It lets metered air in for the pcv system and is also a vent tube for the pcv system at wot. Don't delete it. If you have a speed density system you can get away with a valve cover breather. MAF systems must have the hose as it's providing metered air. If you use a breather in a MAF system you will let in unmetered air, causing idle issues.
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

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Reply #3
Thanks gentlemen.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #4
With either system you can eliminate it and install a breather. I never use the stock pipe on any build i do. I always use breathers. Weather Density or MAF it can be removed . Just block off the tube properly and install a breather.
I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

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Reply #5
This is basically what has been reposted on several Mustang websites but this is the original posting by Joel5.0 on www.sbftech.com and I typically listen to this guy as he really knows his stuff when if comes to fuel injection:

http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,119.0/wap2.html

Can you install an open breather to any of the valve covers if the PCV valve setup is kept?  In short the answer is no as this will cause an Unmetered Air (vacuum leak) condition due to air from the atmosphere been sucked into the crankcase. Fresh air intake to the crankcase (specially on MA EFI systems) have to be sourced from the air volume metered/measured by the MAF (reason for the OEM breather hose from the oil tube to the TB on the RH valve cover). Otherwise, a lean condition + idle control problems are likely to occur. If you want to install breathers, the PCV valve must be removed so an unmetered air condition is avoided. The open breather(s) and unmetered air condition, does not apply to SD systems, since the PCV valve is a controlled vacuum leak already provided for by the SD logic.

You can read the posts that Joel made and some guys as various questions with regards to this with modified NA engines and forced induction engines.  Really a good read as this is what prompted me to get rid of my breather style oil fill cap and after all the messing around with the IAC, TB, and other mechanical means of trying to get the idle below 1,000 rpm it now rests at 850 rpm just like the SCT chip is programmed for.

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

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Reply #6
I'm installing a tube and hose. Just to be on the safe side.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

 

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Reply #7
i find this fascinating at best because the PCV is a metered vacuum leak. As the matter of fact is meters less when it gets gummed up. And the opposite side is the intake air so to speak and that comes from before the throttle plates. So in my 50 years in this business i would venture to say i have seen many a 5.0 without that tube or it was missing or not connected and oy rotted away. And the vehicle ran perfectly. To prove this just remove the oil fill and see if the idle changes,Or pull out the dipstick and see if the RPM increases. It wont!! So there would be no metered air in the crankcase. Or maybe i am not understanding what Vinny asked.
I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

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