Why does the young mechanics tease me?

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Why does the young mechanics tease me?

Reply #15 – March 08, 2013, 09:05:04 PM

A good friend of the family has a shop and he laps the valves. He also told me to use gasoline to check the valves by flipping the head over and pouring the gas in the combustion chamber. It works much better than water.

Any jackass that does not want to learn something for free is an idiot. The kid needs to understand the gift he has been given and learn everything he can while in your shop. Passing up free knowledge...makes me worry about the next generation of mechanics.

Darren

Why does the young mechanics tease me?

Reply #16 – March 08, 2013, 09:13:01 PM

I just always left some deisel in the heads over night to see if it was leaking.

Why does the young mechanics tease me?

Reply #17 – March 08, 2013, 10:11:37 PM

That is what i use STACKS DIESEL!!!

Aerocoupe i thank you for your kind words. But here is some facts that these kids dont realize. They do not know how to TIME A CAR!!! They do not know how to install points and adjust them. They do not know anything about CARBS. And the worst thing is they dont care!!!. Check this out Last Wednesday me and the chap went out to pick up an early Porsche for a NO START!!! At the shop i let the kid trouble shoot it. Presto he checked for spark and NONE. With that he asked me where to get a new control module for the car. I asked why. Well it has no spark he replied!! I asked him if he checked the points?? WHAT IS THAT RENZO. Cars do not have points any more. Well this car does i replied. WHERE ARE THEYHE ASKED. I said under the cap!! Under the CAP. YES!! With that he removed the cap and all that was there was the ROTOR and the cover for the points. Once again where are the points he replied. WELL remove the rotor and the point cover and you will find them. So he DID. Is that the points RENZO. YES, How do you check them. So i cranked the engine over to get the points in the high spot on the cam lobes of the DIZZY had the kid key the car and i used my trusty screwdriver to shove between the contacts. Bingo the kig says hay the test plug you installed is sparking RENZO. Imagine that. Whats wrong with them. I explained they were pitted and dirty. With that i went to my tool box and got out a point file. This kid was in shock. A POINT FILE. Is there such a thing. YES now with a few strokes of the file between the points i told the lad to replace the cover rotor and the cap. Bingo the pride of the GERMANS CAME TO LIFE. I ordered a new set of points and installed and gaped them. The lad asked what is that butter knife used for . I asid to adjust the gap correctly. The kid was schocked as this car has a CD system controlled by old fashioned points!!!

Now we had to adjust the VALVES. REALLY RENZO> NEVER HEARD OF THAT. WOOPS WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here is the car with the mistery ignition system and complete with CARBS!!! The kid was MYSTIFIED!!! But he is a great kid and never complains. I LIKE HIM A LOT!!

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Reply #18 – March 09, 2013, 12:43:20 AM

Some of the schools just dont touch on any of the old school stuff anymore. I actually went back to school here and am still in. I had to learn how to adjust the old school valves and what do ya know about a week later we had an early 90's 1/2 ton chevy come in that needed head gaskets. My boss hadnt done it since he was in school, so guess who got thrown into that one!!! Ive even had to do a basic learn on points for school, not sure Ill have something come in that runs them. But it sure helps to have a bit of a clue if I ever do.

The whole process of an engine rebuild is actually being fazed out at most schools, because everybody does send the work to machine shops anymore. My class was the last one at my school that got the full coarse. After mine they are learning the basics like head R&R and stuff like that. Its kind of a shame to its so much easier to diagnose I think if youve had a few engines torn down and actually known the parts. Ive been wrenching since I was 16 on my stuff(32 now) so Ive had a few engines torn down for repairs in my time.

The head on my TC I actually did all the work to in my class, including the mild porting and polishing. Its perfect!!!!!

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Reply #19 – March 09, 2013, 07:10:26 AM

That is 100% true i can buy a GM or Ford engine cheaper than we can rebuild them. And they come with a great warranty. Even the GM performance engines. You just cant beat the price. I have an old SUN DIZZY machine collecting dust in the back room and finally i sold it. We never Re-Curve a dizzy any more THOSE DAYS AS YOU SAY ARE GONE FOREVER!! Nice talking about it with you. You know it"s funny the kid was looking for a tool the other day in one of my boxes and he came across a tool that was funny looking to him. He said HAY RENZO WHAT IS THIS ??? Turned out it was a VEGA timing belt tension-er tool. Fancy that. All the old obsolete tools in my box just shows one thing. I AM AN OLD I TOLD THE LAD!!! I really like this kid a LOT!!

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Reply #20 – March 10, 2013, 04:34:22 AM

one sure way to learn all you need to know about points,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
just buy an old tractor that wont start while looking at 2000 feet of driveway that needs plowed.

my tractor was made in 47,,
the point sets i purchased that "fit the best" were 73 continental.

they're not that hard to set, i just hate it when they try to move when you tighten them up. i pull my gaper out and they seem to come closer together,, then i started using something thicker so i end up at about .015 there abouts. thats prob why you use a butter knife,,

another thing is to make sure to use that lubricatant or the felt will were out and you'll be n there too often adjusting again.

oh well,, i suppose "how things work" isnt so important anymore.

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Reply #21 – March 10, 2013, 04:40:42 AM

Quote from: TOM Renzo;410821

We never Re-Curve a dizzy any more !

what is this kungfu you speak of?

also,, did you have a chance to do that test on the valves, see if the ones you lap cut in sealed better than the ones you didnt?

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Reply #22 – March 10, 2013, 04:46:19 AM

Tom,
if you had someone verbally explain transitors to you,,, it would open up a whole new world of "relays" that you probably wished you learned 20 years ago.

especially the large power transitors that you bolt down... very reliable even more so than a mechanical relay.

think of this for a minute,, when you stuck that screw driver in betweent the contacts of those points, you bridged a gap that allowed a circut to be completed,,,, you simulated what transitors do for a living,, your triggering a small input to "allow" a larger one to be controlled.

Why does the young mechanics tease me?

Reply #23 – March 10, 2013, 05:54:59 AM

Quote from: TOM Renzo;410690

@ A Bird

It is funny Honda is the first ones to complain when warranty work has to be paid out. I am assuming you are talking about warranty work that Honda has to flip the bill for?? It boggles my mind how people think so highly about HONDA and working on them and dealing with warranty work they are no better than any other car BUILDER. They just have a reputation i think is BS!!

Honda vehicles are generally very reliable... As I'm sure you're aware, warranty times are shrinking at an alarming rate. Honda squeezes every tenth out of us that they can. They call back on all warranty parts, and will debit a claim if all your stuff isn't in order. Guess it's a result of the "new" economy.
Speaking to new "parts changers": we used to change seals, rectifiers, solenoids, etc. Now the flat rate isn't worth the hassle and the parts are getting lower quality it seems. Throw a part in it, roll the next one. This business ain't fun anymore...

BTW, jcassity, I love transistors!!