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New To The Site, 3.8-5.8W swap!

Reply #15
well i'd perfer to stick with a 3 speed, but ya this motor should be well over 400 ftlb, so far looking like i'm gonna have to build one up

3.8 is just about out, ordered my oil pan kit today and motor mounts. all slowely coming together.
the motor is still at the machine shop but shouldn't be too much longer.
guess i'll have to start taking pictures and keeping all you guys up to date on the build, i'm quite excited to drive the ol girl again.
there's a car festival in july, i want to be driving it for it. so gotta keep on givenr'
Life's Short, Go Fast

New To The Site, 3.8-5.8W swap!

Reply #16
A C6 will definitely fit in the trans tunnel of these cars.  There are a lot of Fox cars running around with 460's and C6's in them, so that's not a problem.  You'll incur a lot less parasitic loss with a Glide though.  It all boils down to whether performance is more important to you than expense.  It will be easier to fit long-tubes around a Glide, than it would a C6 in that car though.  Keep that in mind.  An AOD can be made to be reliable behind a 351W by installing a non-locking converter.  The weak link in an AOD, is the weak, torque-phobic inner shaft.  A non-locking converter allows an AOD to survive behind a much stouter engine, because the tranny never shocks that weak inner shaft.  If you go the carbed route though, you'll have to figure out how to connect the tv cable.  That cable normally connects to the throttle body on a fuel injected engine.  I'm not aware of any provisions for connecting a tv cable to a carbed application.
Good luck on your project!
William

New To The Site, 3.8-5.8W swap!

Reply #17
I did some research and I stand corrected as the C6 will fit as 88 Blackbird 5.0 has already indicated.  The reason you do not see alot of them in the Mustangs is due to them being bulkier, the shifter can be an issue, not much support in the aftermarket world when compared to the C4, and they do soak up a little more power than a C4 or a Glide (basically regurgitating what 88 Blackbird 5.0 is saying).  There is a guy on the Corral that also champions the AOD's so that may be a really good route to go especially with the over drive.  He goes by SilverFox on the Corral and his website is here:

http://www.silverfoxtrans.com/silverfoxtrans.com/Home.html

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

New To The Site, 3.8-5.8W swap!

Reply #18
If you want to read about and talk about AOD's, here is a link to a great forum for it.  Dan Gisdorf (goes by Silverfox) manages this forum.  There's a lot of good info there.
William

New To The Site, 3.8-5.8W swap!

Reply #19
yep. I am having my stock AOD from my 88 tbird being built up to handle my 351w. Direct bolt on.
1988 Thunderbird Sport. Work in Progress
5.8L swap w/fitech efi, 4R70W swap w/quick 4 controller, 2003 GT rear diff, 5 Lug swap

Bought this car back as an old project car.

:burnout:

New To The Site, 3.8-5.8W swap!

Reply #20
thanks for the info guys, haven't been on for a bit, but i'll give you all an update

the motor is still at the machine shop but is being rough bored in the next couple days
i'm sticking with c6 as i already have a rebuilt one ready to party
i pick up my headers on the 3rd
i think i mentioned my oil pan kit already but its a moroso 7qrt full kit
and with it i've read people having troubles with clearance issues but looks as if i can just upgrade my suspention and run with out the sway bar in the front

the interior is in a millllllion pieces
the dash is ripped out and even though it might have been dumb for people that like original stuff to take out the digital gauges but really for performance there isn't even as much as a temp gauge on it so its gotta go.
i tore out the seats and carpet, got rid of the insulation and and working on the sound detanator junk as trying to lose a bit of weight while i'm at it too, just the insulation under the carpet alone had about 100 pounds!!
and the power seat motor! wow that thing is heavy!

so right now i'm on the search for different seats, maybe some with harness holes cause i found a 4 point cage that just bolts up to the seat belt bolts

anyways there's my update for now and now that i'm back online i'll be sure to keep on updating, guess i'll have to bring the camera to the shop as well!

lemme know your guys' thoughts and idea's if you have any as well

thanks, Jesse
Life's Short, Go Fast

New To The Site, 3.8-5.8W swap!

Reply #21
thanks for the info guys, haven't been on for a bit, but i'll give you all an update

the motor is still at the machine shop but is being rough bored in the next couple days
i'm sticking with c6 as i already have a rebuilt one ready to party
i pick up my headers on the 3rd
i think i mentioned my oil pan kit already but its a moroso 7qrt full kit
and with it i've read people having troubles with clearance issues but looks as if i can just upgrade my suspention and run with out the sway bar in the front

the interior is in a millllllion pieces
the dash is ripped out and even though it might have been dumb for people that like original stuff to take out the digital gauges but really for performance there isn't even as much as a temp gauge on it so its gotta go.
i tore out the seats and carpet, got rid of the insulation and and working on the sound detanator junk as trying to lose a bit of weight while i'm at it too, just the insulation under the carpet alone had about 100 pounds!!
and the power seat motor! wow that thing is heavy!

so right now i'm on the search for different seats, maybe some with harness holes cause i found a 4 point cage that just bolts up to the seat belt bolts

anyways there's my update for now and now that i'm back online i'll be sure to keep on updating, guess i'll have to bring the camera to the shop as well!

lemme know your guys' thoughts and idea's if you have any as well

thanks, Jesse
Life's Short, Go Fast

New To The Site, 3.8-5.8W swap!

Reply #22
well still trying to get all the sound junk off the floor on the inside, started filling holes in the swiss cheese engine bay, slowely coming along just been busy helping a friend with his girlfriends g5 she blew her motor up in, reminded me why i have a rwd and carberated car, much nicer than this new junk

and also trying to organize my garage a bit but here's the beautiful mess i'm in right now just to keep updated, will be taking pictures of everything in the next couple days for you guys
Life's Short, Go Fast

 

New To The Site, 3.8-5.8W swap!

Reply #23
Nice car and a good idea.

I had a 83 Cougar with 351 and T5 for years b4 i swap everything into my 85T bird.  I did use shorty headers with no probs.
Now have 460 in the car with D&D shorty's and yes i still have brake booster with tall valve covers