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Hesitation

I just installed a Walbro 255 on my Tbird because my stock pump was pretty much dead.  I am running 18 psi on the stock turbo and plugs are regapped to .28

The car loves to hit full boost on the interstate and stay there, but sometimes when I floor it on take off there is a hesitation and backfire either in first or second gear at about 16 psi.

Is this my injectors or timing?
2013 Focus (Daily)
1968 Cougar XR7
1987 Turbo Coupe
5 Speed, Stock IHI, Aeromotive 340LPH, Stinger 3in DP w/Magnaflow 3in Race Series ler, Hallman Boost Controller, Corbeau Fixed Back Racing Seats, Rebuilt 35# Injectors, Kirban AFPR, Stinger's Front Mount Piping w/Big NPR Front Mount IC, 3/8 E-85 Fuel Lines, SPEC Stage 3+ Clutch, Explorer 4.0 Dual Core Radiator, Optima Red Top Battery
1988 Turbo Coupe (RIP)
1984 Cougar (RIP) :cougarsmily:
1986 Cougar XR7 5 Speed.  (sold)

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Reply #1
Just to clarify before I make anyone mad :)

Yes I checked other threads, and yes I have read that the stock injectors can handle 18 psi.

Was I misinformed?

Either way I am going to buy new injectors this week.  Up to what # injectors can a stock ECU handle, and where is the best place to buy them.

I was thinking Stinger, but if there is a better place please let me know.

Thanks!
2013 Focus (Daily)
1968 Cougar XR7
1987 Turbo Coupe
5 Speed, Stock IHI, Aeromotive 340LPH, Stinger 3in DP w/Magnaflow 3in Race Series ler, Hallman Boost Controller, Corbeau Fixed Back Racing Seats, Rebuilt 35# Injectors, Kirban AFPR, Stinger's Front Mount Piping w/Big NPR Front Mount IC, 3/8 E-85 Fuel Lines, SPEC Stage 3+ Clutch, Explorer 4.0 Dual Core Radiator, Optima Red Top Battery
1988 Turbo Coupe (RIP)
1984 Cougar (RIP) :cougarsmily:
1986 Cougar XR7 5 Speed.  (sold)

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Reply #2
Ordered a Kirban FPR.  After some research I found out I need to raise the base fuel pressure to max out the stock injectors.  Hopefully this works, I will keep ya'll updated. :hick:
2013 Focus (Daily)
1968 Cougar XR7
1987 Turbo Coupe
5 Speed, Stock IHI, Aeromotive 340LPH, Stinger 3in DP w/Magnaflow 3in Race Series ler, Hallman Boost Controller, Corbeau Fixed Back Racing Seats, Rebuilt 35# Injectors, Kirban AFPR, Stinger's Front Mount Piping w/Big NPR Front Mount IC, 3/8 E-85 Fuel Lines, SPEC Stage 3+ Clutch, Explorer 4.0 Dual Core Radiator, Optima Red Top Battery
1988 Turbo Coupe (RIP)
1984 Cougar (RIP) :cougarsmily:
1986 Cougar XR7 5 Speed.  (sold)

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Reply #3
I was gonna ask what your base fuel pressure was.  Sounds like your already on the right track.
Mike


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Reply #5
I haven't dialed in my TPS at all actually.  Not only that, but my IAC is broken so I leave it unplugged.

All my troubles were fixed with a full tank of gas, so I am about 99% sure it's a fuel pressure issue.
2013 Focus (Daily)
1968 Cougar XR7
1987 Turbo Coupe
5 Speed, Stock IHI, Aeromotive 340LPH, Stinger 3in DP w/Magnaflow 3in Race Series ler, Hallman Boost Controller, Corbeau Fixed Back Racing Seats, Rebuilt 35# Injectors, Kirban AFPR, Stinger's Front Mount Piping w/Big NPR Front Mount IC, 3/8 E-85 Fuel Lines, SPEC Stage 3+ Clutch, Explorer 4.0 Dual Core Radiator, Optima Red Top Battery
1988 Turbo Coupe (RIP)
1984 Cougar (RIP) :cougarsmily:
1986 Cougar XR7 5 Speed.  (sold)

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Reply #6
Quote from: Carl;359878
I haven't dialed in my TPS at all actually.  Not only that, but my IAC is broken so I leave it unplugged.

All my troubles were fixed with a full tank of gas, so I am about 99% sure it's a fuel pressure issue.

that has nothing to do with your fuel pressure...  if your IAC is broken I have a handful of them cover shipping and I will send one your way, it is very important that it is plugged in.

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Reply #7
Quote from: 88turbo;359915
that has nothing to do with your fuel pressure...  if your IAC is broken I have a handful of them cover shipping and I will send one your way, it is very important that it is plugged in.

I will use one from my other bird as that one works.  I appreciate the offer!  Now I am curious why the problems only start once I get to about 1/4 fuel left in the tank?  If it's not fuel pressure, what could it be?  Do I need a sump or something?
2013 Focus (Daily)
1968 Cougar XR7
1987 Turbo Coupe
5 Speed, Stock IHI, Aeromotive 340LPH, Stinger 3in DP w/Magnaflow 3in Race Series ler, Hallman Boost Controller, Corbeau Fixed Back Racing Seats, Rebuilt 35# Injectors, Kirban AFPR, Stinger's Front Mount Piping w/Big NPR Front Mount IC, 3/8 E-85 Fuel Lines, SPEC Stage 3+ Clutch, Explorer 4.0 Dual Core Radiator, Optima Red Top Battery
1988 Turbo Coupe (RIP)
1984 Cougar (RIP) :cougarsmily:
1986 Cougar XR7 5 Speed.  (sold)

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Reply #8
Ok, so I think I found the problem.

One of the tubes on my fuel sending unit was cracked.  It's the send tube, not the return tube.  It's actually cracked so bad it has almost broken free from the rest of the unit. 

I attached the new IAC sensor and the car revs at 2000 rpm at idle.  I am going to try to adjust the voltage of the TPS and see what happens.
2013 Focus (Daily)
1968 Cougar XR7
1987 Turbo Coupe
5 Speed, Stock IHI, Aeromotive 340LPH, Stinger 3in DP w/Magnaflow 3in Race Series ler, Hallman Boost Controller, Corbeau Fixed Back Racing Seats, Rebuilt 35# Injectors, Kirban AFPR, Stinger's Front Mount Piping w/Big NPR Front Mount IC, 3/8 E-85 Fuel Lines, SPEC Stage 3+ Clutch, Explorer 4.0 Dual Core Radiator, Optima Red Top Battery
1988 Turbo Coupe (RIP)
1984 Cougar (RIP) :cougarsmily:
1986 Cougar XR7 5 Speed.  (sold)

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Reply #9
Does anyone know where I can buy a new fuel sending unit for a decent price?
2013 Focus (Daily)
1968 Cougar XR7
1987 Turbo Coupe
5 Speed, Stock IHI, Aeromotive 340LPH, Stinger 3in DP w/Magnaflow 3in Race Series ler, Hallman Boost Controller, Corbeau Fixed Back Racing Seats, Rebuilt 35# Injectors, Kirban AFPR, Stinger's Front Mount Piping w/Big NPR Front Mount IC, 3/8 E-85 Fuel Lines, SPEC Stage 3+ Clutch, Explorer 4.0 Dual Core Radiator, Optima Red Top Battery
1988 Turbo Coupe (RIP)
1984 Cougar (RIP) :cougarsmily:
1986 Cougar XR7 5 Speed.  (sold)

 

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Reply #10
I have good news... I fixed the problem.  I just took the fuel sending unit out of my white bird and put it in my daily.  The hesitation has also stopped.  Also, I cut a door to the tank from the trunk for easy access.  Once I get it looking nice I will take pictures. :)
2013 Focus (Daily)
1968 Cougar XR7
1987 Turbo Coupe
5 Speed, Stock IHI, Aeromotive 340LPH, Stinger 3in DP w/Magnaflow 3in Race Series ler, Hallman Boost Controller, Corbeau Fixed Back Racing Seats, Rebuilt 35# Injectors, Kirban AFPR, Stinger's Front Mount Piping w/Big NPR Front Mount IC, 3/8 E-85 Fuel Lines, SPEC Stage 3+ Clutch, Explorer 4.0 Dual Core Radiator, Optima Red Top Battery
1988 Turbo Coupe (RIP)
1984 Cougar (RIP) :cougarsmily:
1986 Cougar XR7 5 Speed.  (sold)