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New Guy - 1st Post

Reply #15
Nice fox 'stang.  Welcome aboard.
'88 'bird, 10.9:1 306 w/TFS top end, forged rods/pistons, T-5 swap & bunch of other stuff, 1-family owned, had it since ‘98, 5.0tbrd88 on Instagram and YouTube

New Guy - 1st Post

Reply #16
Quote from: 86T-bird;310636
Nate,

Welcome to the site.  I've seen your car in the "under construction" section on sbftech.  Great project!

Though I post infrequently at either site, both offer a weath of information.  Here; on the unique characteristics of the 83-88 T-Birds & Cougars and on sbftech; how to build the drive train right!

I have an 87 Mustang and the 86 T-Bird, both are great cars though each are built for a different purpose.

Glad to see you over here.

Mark


After a look around here I see quite a few E cam users...

You are in the "know" - help these guys out!!:beatyoass:

Looks like a great site.  When I end up with my T-bird or Cougar (or maybe LSC???) I am sure the guys here can lend some advice...

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Reply #17
"After a look around here I see quite a few E cam users..."

LOL!  That is all too true!  I've been on the stump many times regarding OTS and alphabet cams.  My position on custom cams is known.  There are a few converts, but many fall into the "Grass Roots" group and the "budget" card is often played.  It just takes a few clicks and ten posts to put the Old School myths and rumors to bed, but sometimes it's a hard sell...

You may bring some fresh breath to it!

Mark

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Reply #18
Nice to see you here. These cars are fairly cheap and very similar to stangs in weight. You'll want a 86-88 5.0 to make the swaps easy. The 86's are four eyes like the stangs and marginally lighter. The 87-88's also commonly have alot more options which adds weight. Stay away from the EATC heaters.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
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Reply #19
Welcome!  These cars are only 3-4" longer wheelbase, too.  Just the overhang on the nose and rear make the car look longer.  Some people like them for the better stability on the track.  I'm seemingly forever away from finding that out myself, lol.
1987 TC

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Reply #20
What is an EATC heater?


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Reply #22
Quote from: Haystack;310672
Nice to see you here. These cars are fairly cheap and very similar to stangs in weight. You'll want a 86-88 5.0 to make the swaps easy. The 86's are four eyes like the stangs and marginally lighter. The 87-88's also commonly have alot more options which adds weight. Stay away from the EATC heaters.


Can you expand on the information above?

Why are the 86-88 cars the best?
Why are the V8 cars better for easy swapping?

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Reply #23
Nate,

If you are interested in a F/I set up the 86 to 88 models are best as they have S/O EFI set up.  The earlier models are a bit lighter than the 87/88's.

The 87/88 Turbo Coupe models have 11" Mustang brakes (all others have 10" front discs) an upgraded suspension (electric adjustable ride control, some poly bushing and sway bars comparable to V8 Mustangs) and an 8.8 rear with disc brakes (there are a few 88 XR7's which have a drum brake 8.8).  Gearing is 3.55's in the manual trans cars and 3.73 in the automatics.  ABS may also be on these models (not sure if it was standard of an option).

As you can see the 87/88 Turbo Coupes can make great V8 swap candidates as many upgrades are already in place.  Of course there are hurdles moving from 4 Cyl to V8, but there is plenty of help to sort that out.

Turbo Coupes and Sports have upgraded interiors (buckets, consoles and buttstuffog gauges).

Check out Eric's Coolcats.net site for a lot of good general information on these cars.

Mark

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Reply #24
The EATC is the electronic climate control, some people have had a lot of problems, others have never had an issue.

The only issue I can think of about engine swapping would be the 86.5 through '88 cars with the 5.0 had plates that bolted between the mounts and the block..these plates are made of a rare substance called unobtanium. There's 2 options to overcome this. One is to swap in a pre-86 (or Mustang, or tube, also) K-member, the second, and easier option is to email a man named Chuck...look in the vendor's section, I can personally vouch (as can a lot of others here) that his products are equal to anything you can from summit, jegs, etc. And that his mounts are ONLY available from him.

BTW, welcome to the best Thunderbird/Cougar forum you will ever find!:bowdown:
'84 Mustang
'98 Explorer 5.0
'03 Focus, dropped a valve seat. yay. freakin' split port engines...
'06 Explorer EB 4.6

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Reply #25
The car I have plans on building will see very little (if any) street time.

It will be in the neighborhood of 1k horsey's at the wheels.

I just want to be different at the track and at cruise ins... there are simply too many fox body Mustang drag cars for anyone to stand out...

Thank you for the insight though...

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Reply #26
Welcome, nice car.  I'm in Cedar Falls.  My Cougar is getting a new heart.  One of the best sites for any car is the one for fox Cougars at the site below.

http://www.coolcats.net/

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Reply #27
Quote from: xjeffs;310869
Welcome, nice car.  I'm in Cedar Falls.  My Cougar is getting a new heart.  One of the best sites for any car is the one for fox Cougars at the site below.

http://www.coolcats.net/


Good to see some local boys on this board.

I will beg to differ with you on the "one of the best sites for any car" statement though...  Might be good for Cougars, but there are a lot of backwards thinkers doing a lot of posting over there.

 

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Reply #28
Welcome to the board!

Your car looks cool.
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87 T-Bird Turbo Coupe
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