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maybe too much oversteer .. options?

Reply #15
these might help. they are the best i have on hand.

here you can see the mounting point for the inner tie rod end. notice the seam, and the new material that has been added to the lower portion


and here you can see the heim, spacer stack above the heim, and the new tie rod.


MM offers a height adjustable outer that can help, but AFAIK KB was the only one to offer the modifications to the inner pick up point.
gumby - beauty may fade, but stupid is forever!

maybe too much oversteer .. options?

Reply #16
ummb... does t3skidoo have an IRS too???
2005 Subaru WRX STi|daily driver

maybe too much oversteer .. options?

Reply #17
http://foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=19556

You miss stuff when your not around.
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I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
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1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
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Reply #18
While I don't know much about the IRS, you talked about your front droop.

Do you have camber/caster plates yet? The Maximum Motorsports plates gives you spacers to where you can move the strut up and down in relation to the plates. While it may not be much, it could be something that would help with your front droop.

Either way, they wont hurt.
It's Gumby's fault.


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Reply #20
I really used to look forward to your threads. I really liked dark thunder. When I first joined in the ezboard days, you and Dare used to make my day.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #21
Responses to posts -

Mods (that I can remember)
Front - CC plates, 'long' control arms - relocated inboard ~.3/4", SN95 spindles, brakes, (Koni single adj) struts, coil-overs, MN12 inner/outer tie rods.
Rear - IRS, MM bushings and a/s end links, coil-overs, bilsteins w/ extensions
Yoko AVS on 18x9s all around, 265-35s on +12 offset /275-35s on +40 offset

1) The alignment shop didn't check rear bump steer when they aligned the car. 
2) There's more room between the strut and tire than I previously thought, so front suspension travel is fixed now, and the ride seems to be better - will know after I get it aligned next time. 
3) another thought occurred, first time at the track, there was just a touch of oversteer.  later, there seemed to be more. The only real change was tire wear, the fronts are worn much more than the rears.  I'm wondering if increased front grip isn't causing the rear to seem loose?
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Reply #22
I REALLY hope your having your alignment done by a shop who knows how to set up for road racing and not just joe shmoe's tire shack...lol.  Can you post up pics of the front tire wear you were talking about?  Anything irregular about the wear pattern?  Also, what were your alignment angles set to during your last alignment?

Good luck,
Don
Project 3G: Grandpa Grocery Getter-'85 Crown Vic LTD 2-door, 351W with heavily ported/polished GT40 heads, heavily ported/polished Typhoon Power Plus upper & lower intake, Comp Cams 265DEH retarded 1*, FAST EZ-EFI, HD T5, 8.8" 3.73 trac lock with extra clutches, 3G alt. swap, '99 CVPI front brakes, '09 CVPI rear disc brakes, '00 CVPI booster&m/c + wilwood adj prop valve.

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Reply #23
The alignment shop regularly does a/x and road race cars.  That said, it does look like they could have put a bit more neg camber in the front.

Tires - check here

Inner links question - Is it as "simple" as getting a longer link or does there need to be a different mounting point?
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