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Tbird Front Seat Lean

Can't seem to find the threads concerning the front seat lean issue.  I guess first off, what causes this?  What are the best methods to fix this?  Install supports in the seat or replace the seat all together?  If I replace the seat with another one what compatibility issues are there with the power seat controls?  Is there a direct replacement?

Thanks
1987 Ford Thunderbird Base model 3.8l  Bone stock.  Trying to get it to perform the best it can.  Wanted:  Nice set of 4 bolt wheels.

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Reply #1
The seat frame is most likely bent.

It's  possible the floorpan is cracked under the seat contributing to the issue, but more than likely it's the seat itself.

All the power controls for height/fore/aft are in the seat tracks, so you can pretty much bolt any other seat to them.  Any Tbird/Mustang bucket seat will bolt to the TBird tracks, as will many other Ford seats.
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Reply #2
Thanks, I guess I will see if I can't find another front seat in good condition.
1987 Ford Thunderbird Base model 3.8l  Bone stock.  Trying to get it to perform the best it can.  Wanted:  Nice set of 4 bolt wheels.

Tbird Front Seat Lean

Reply #3
Find some from a newer (94 up) mustang gt. The v-6 seats are very similar to what we already have.
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Reply #4
Quote from: Haystack;251325
Find some from a newer (94 up) mustang gt. The v-6 seats are very similar to what we already have.



Good to know.  I would imagine the upholstery (color) would be pretty hard to match up with the rest of the stock interior.  Of course, I have a grey interior so it might not turn out too bad if I find something similar.
1987 Ford Thunderbird Base model 3.8l  Bone stock.  Trying to get it to perform the best it can.  Wanted:  Nice set of 4 bolt wheels.

Tbird Front Seat Lean

Reply #5
The reason why it twists is outlined here, at the bottom:
http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showpost.php?p=249635&postcount=3

The seat back can sometimes be twisted back and some support braces welded inside (remove fabric and foam). There is a big open hole in the middle of the seat back frame...that's where you'd start. Often there are some cracks and tears in the metal there also. Everything needs to be welded--no bolt-ons here--and that should put you back to normal, and well protected for the future.

I am using SN95 front seats in my '86, and aside from the side bolsters rubbing on the armrests on the door panels, they fit just fine on our tracks. So far they have resisted twisting much better than older Fox seats, although the driver's side is starting to now, after 7 years. That's not too bad though IMO.

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Reply #6
Thanks for the explanation.  Got a lead on a set of 87-93 Mustang seats, do you know of any reason why these would not fit vs. the SN95 seats?
1987 Ford Thunderbird Base model 3.8l  Bone stock.  Trying to get it to perform the best it can.  Wanted:  Nice set of 4 bolt wheels.


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Reply #8
Here is a link for you.  I'm sure it will be helpful!

http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?p=245459#post245459

I just completed my seat lean fix.  It was easier than I had expected... and man did it make a difference.  The back of my seat is now upright and sturdy for the first time in years and years. 

I took mine to a friend to weld, what we did was clamp the seat, face down, to a bench.  We used C clamps on 4 corners.  Then he just welded where it was broken.  He also reinforced all of the areas that were not broken.  Worked like a champ!
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Reply #9
Quote from: 85bird;251496
Here is a link for you.  I'm sure it will be helpful!

http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?p=245459#post245459

I just completed my seat lean fix.  It was easier than I had expected... and man did it make a difference.  The back of my seat is now upright and sturdy for the first time in years and years. 

I took mine to a friend to weld, what we did was clamp the seat, face down, to a bench.  We used C clamps on 4 corners.  Then he just welded where it was broken.  He also reinforced all of the areas that were not broken.  Worked like a champ!


Okay, good information as well.  So, it looks as though I will give this a whirl.  It seems to me that the seat portion not the backrest is the issue when I sit in it (as far as the lean goes).  But I won't know for sure until I tear it apart.  I got somebody to do the welding for me so that should not be an issue. Just need my garage to be a little warmer before I can tackle it.  This North Dakota weather is a little frigid right about now.

Thanks again
1987 Ford Thunderbird Base model 3.8l  Bone stock.  Trying to get it to perform the best it can.  Wanted:  Nice set of 4 bolt wheels.

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Reply #10
When mine broke it was the seat base, not the back. The previous owner actually tried straightening it out by shimming up the back of the tracks with washers. I could've welded it, but it had actually worn through the foam and seat cover, so I ended up replacing it. Sort of. With a Frankenseat: 4-cyl Mustang seat base, '87 Sport cover,  and swapped the seat foam with the passenger side (the inner part of the seat foam sees no wear, so by swapping sides with the foam I ended up with two good seats).

That lasted years, until I installed the TC seats...
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1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣

 

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Reply #11
My lean was becasue of numerous breaks on the seat back frame.  While you have it apart, have your friend also reinforce any area that is not already broken. 

I am a novice in the car repair area.... I am not overly technical.  I found this fix to be very easy.
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