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finally done... at least till the next upgrade... lol...

well I think the project thundercoug is done... I decided to name the car Griffen.  instead of keeping the project name...

anyhow.... I have put 18k on it and it has proven to be very reliable runs fantastic and has yet to miss a beat.... I am very suprized that the 100 dollar junk yard short block that I bought to use for build purposes only is holding up so well... I planed on having a built engine in there by now but so far no need. so far it has made it to several bbq's and many cruises and 2 to rock falls raceway. it made 409whp on a mustang dyno at 5200 rpms and pulled a 12.2 at 118 at the rock. I am seeing about 17-20 mpg when driving normal and up around 24-26 on cruises.

for anyone that is unfamiliar with the car. here is some of the build as well as the pics....

http://s27.photobucket.com/albums/c180/budderigs/griffin/

http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=21841

here are the 2 newest pictures.





the turbos are going to be on a back burner for a while I am having way to much fun just driving the car right now...
1981 ghia t-top: sed...
1983 cougar rb22 greddy turbo 5speed.

finally done... at least till the next upgrade... lol...

Reply #1
409rwhp is dam good,from what i gather your running a stock ho bottom end,b cam,afr 165's,explorer intake,70mmtb,maf, tweecer and Supercharger running???? lbs of boost???
Did you ever dyno it with the c4 before you went t5???
What was your 60ft when you ran that 12.2???
Do you know the weight of the car???
Just curious as to what my dyno numbers would be with the aod and what i would run in the 1/4??

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Reply #2
I like your car as well. Stick around for a while.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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Reply #3
Quote from: dominator;280889
409rwhp is dam good,from what i gather your running a stock ho bottom end,b cam,afr 165's,explorer intake,70mmtb,maf, tweecer and Supercharger running???? lbs of boost???
Did you ever dyno it with the c4 before you went t5???
What was your 60ft when you ran that 12.2???
Do you know the weight of the car???
Just curious as to what my dyno numbers would be with the aod and what i would run in the 1/4??


12lbs of boost and ported e7's the afr's are cracked kind of a $900 flush down the toilet but... they can be fixed... I sold the tweecer and I am toying with the moates burnone... its not as nice as the tweecer.... but it was 200 bucks less... everything else is right though..

sorry the c4 blew before it ever saw the dyno... so I dont know the number through the auto...

my 60 foot was a 1.8. she gets out of the hole quick with the dr's but it could be better yet... I havnt had it on the scale but I would guess 3400... maybe a little less... a friend of mine has a mustang with similer power and he runs just a bit quicker...(12.14) at 3200# so basic math if driver skill is the same would put me at 34... I think...
1981 ghia t-top: sed...
1983 cougar rb22 greddy turbo 5speed.

finally done... at least till the next upgrade... lol...

Reply #4
when you get your twin turbo project started. i would buy your supercharger kit off of you.
84 el camino ss-daily driver(efi mild sbc,2004r, posi 3:42 rear.)
84 mercury cougar v6- was a v6/ nitrous drag car, going back to mostly stock
81 chevy malibu-protouring/  drag car.( efi sbc supercharged 283 that will rev to the moon, 2004r, 4:11 posi rear)

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Reply #5
Hey Jon, lookin' good, congrats!!
1987 Turbo Coupe - Son's car
1987 Super Coupe - Son's project car
1934 Ford - My project car

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Reply #6
Quote from: FLSTCI71;280919
Hey Jon, lookin' good, congrats!!

thank you much, Mike... your parts helped make it what it is now. im going to need a new shifter trim cover bezel. if you stumble across one... I gave my boss a ride home the other day and he put his hand right on the middle of it for some reason, and it broke right in half.... im going to try and plastic weld this one but I have my doutes it will ever look right again... and I would like to have it mint for car craft....
1981 ghia t-top: sed...
1983 cougar rb22 greddy turbo 5speed.

finally done... at least till the next upgrade... lol...

Reply #7
Glad to see you're getting some real enjoyment out of your car right now. It looks great! Can't wait to see it go turbo'd!

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Reply #8
Not a fan of the TC front clip on it but other then that, nice ride!

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Reply #9
Wow, that kind of hp through E7's i.m impressed.
Why did the afr's crack,something you did???
Did you tune the car or did someone else???
What kind of timing are you running on the top end and what's your air/fuel???

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Reply #10
Quote from: dominator;280985
Wow, that kind of hp through E7's i.m impressed.
Why did the afr's crack,something you did???
Did you tune the car or did someone else???
What kind of timing are you running on the top end and what's your air/fuel???


there was a crack in the first port on both heads when the heads got ported they took out to much metal and they cracked in the coolent port allowing coolent into the cylinders... its almost funny im the second person in the local mustang club that this has happend to... they will need to be welded.

when I made the 409 the outside temp was really good about 60 degrees my af was right at 12to1 and timing was 34 degrees. the first time the air temp went over 80 degree it pinged like a mofookie so it is backed down a bit and I set it a bit richer. I am going to put it on the dyno again next week to see how much it dropped should be interesting...
my af  now is at 11to1 at wide open. and timing is 28 degrees wide open full boost... these numbers are rough at best.... sence it changes alot on the road... with differing temps and humidity...
1981 ghia t-top: sed...
1983 cougar rb22 greddy turbo 5speed.

finally done... at least till the next upgrade... lol...

Reply #11
34deg is way to high with boost,24ish would be maximum with 94 octane.
You would have to have been running 110 race fuel to be running that kind of timing and keep from blowing the headgaskets from detination.
The  60deg temps would definetley have helped with the detination but 34, even 28 sounds high.
Did you set the program timing or did someone set the program for you???
I run around 19-21deg at full boost with 94 octane and that's about the limit unless i went with race fuel.
11-1 is safe,you can up it to 11.5 to get a little more power,12-1 is on the edge.
What head gaskets do you run.
I've got a small leak in one and am going to go cometics when money permits.
That really sucks about the heads,shouldn't the company who ported them fix them????
I do have 2 more lbs of boost than you but that really does not make too much difference on top end timing.

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Reply #12
to be honest I am trying to blow the engine up.... it wasnt supposed to run this long.... the 347 is built and sitting on the floor ready to go in. but this darn 302 wont die... it does have really low compression with the dish pistons that are in it which helps alot... I am running 91 for fuel... I have been do all the tuning. I did pay a tuner to do the base tune on the dyno and I have just been toying with it sence....
1981 ghia t-top: sed...
1983 cougar rb22 greddy turbo 5speed.

finally done... at least till the next upgrade... lol...

Reply #13
Quote from: Budderigs;280937
im going to need a new shifter trim cover bezel

You have a PM.
1987 Turbo Coupe - Son's car
1987 Super Coupe - Son's project car
1934 Ford - My project car

 

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Reply #14
thanks mike pm replyed
1981 ghia t-top: sed...
1983 cougar rb22 greddy turbo 5speed.