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still confused on the tailpipe ...

gonna have to put some tails on sometime soon.
 
i was thinking about either http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=FLO%2D15804&N=700+%2D160575+115&autoview=sku or  http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=WLK%2D45902&N=700+%2D160575+115&autoview=sku.
 
notice the cheaper one. yah. two of those would save me like $20 or something over the flowmasters. only problem is that second one is listed as being WLK-45902, and "2.500 in" diameter. its counterpart, the "left side" one WLK-45903 is "2.250 in" diameter. wonderin why that is, i guess ill just ask summit if its a misprint.
 
however whats important is will it FIT?
i attached a pic i took tonight of how far the ler outlet (not the end of the dump) is from my rear axle. note where the weld is, that shows where the outlet is. i measured 10-11 inches. i bought this http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM%2D640725&N=700+4294923429+4294921571+400304+4294908331+4294925008+4294799364+4294906186+115&autoview=sku h-pipe for my car, and a set of flowmaster 2 chambers with tubes already on them. he said they were from his mustang. so, the big question---are my lers at the right spot? should they be that far from the axle, should they be farther, even?
 
our cars have a longer wheelbase so wouldnt my setup be incorrect because the h-pipe and tube/lers be for a mustang? what do i (or dont i) need to do to get one of those two kinds of tailpipes on my car?
 
second--i know the tails will be like 12 inches too short. however what about the rear most exhaust hanger? will that be in the same spot, or will i have to get 12 inch tips, put them on, cut off the hanger, and have someone weld the hanger on the tip????
 
thanks in advance, i just want to make SURE i know everything about this before actually going on summit and hitting "order"!!!:flame:
1987 20th Anniversary Cougar, 302 "5.0" GT-40 heads (F3ZE '93 Cobra) and TMoss Ported H.O. intake, H.O. camshaft
2.5" Duals, no cats, Flowmaster 40s, Richmond 3.73s w/ Trac-Lok, maxed out Baumann shift kit, 3000 RPM Dirty Dog non-lock TC
Aside from the Mustang crinkle headers, still looks like it's only 150 HP...
1988 Black XR7 Trick Flow top end, Tremec 3550
1988 Black XR7 Procharger P600B intercooled, Edelbrock Performer non-RPM heads, GT40 intake AOD, 13 PSI @5000 RPM. 93 octane

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Reply #1
i would prefer the second ones!
1988 LX coupe. a dressed up motor with full exhaust and BBK shorties with flowmasters, BBK CAI, accufab 65mm tb, HO upper intake, cobra valve covers.

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Reply #2
The flow tubes (from the h-pipe to the lers) are shorter on a Stang.I had mine custom bent for my car.I bought a set of 2.5 inch Mustang tailpipes.They are straight to the bumper,no bends and no tips.I was wanting that so i could add the tips I got from FPV of Australia.The Stang pipes will fit.I got both of mine from E-bay (new) from a business for 4less than $90.00 shipped.I did a little bargaining,and they acepted the offer.Check the deals and try to deal with them.Stang tailpipes are all over E-bay for cheap.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #3
Huh, I didn't know Dynomax tailpipes were that much cheaper. I shoulda bought those things instead of FLowmasters (course that was 3 years ago)

BTW this is what I did with my hangers- Driver's side stock hanger will work BUT needs to be cut, shortened slightly, and rewelded, else it hits the gas tank. Pass side hanger on the tailpipe will hit the fuel filler neck. I had neither of the Mustang-style frame mounts so I with with these universal mounts, but they actually work pretty well and give me some adjustability. The driver's side one is in the threaded hole in the frame where the tailpipe mount on a Mustang would normally be. The pass. side mount is in a threaded hole I just happened to find back near the bumper. And yes I know it's ugly, I actually went back and redid these slightly last summer, but I don't have any new pics.

Garrett H.
'94 F250 XLT- 4x4, 5 speed, 7.3 IDI Turbo Diesel, 4" intake, 4" exhaust, 5" turnout stacks, manual hubs, etc.
'87 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
Engine, wheels, tires, etc!
Exhaust sound clip
Another clip

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Reply #4
Im pretty sure those $35 dynomax tails are 2 1/4". Id go with the 2 1/2" flowmaster pair. Theres free shipping on those, I dont know what shipping would run on a pair of dynomax tails.
93 Festiva L, 193k miles, BP+T/G25MR swap, T3 50trim .48/.42, SRT FMIC, Capri electronics/Rocketchip, 2.5" exhaust
bests: ET 12.86, MPH 110.25, 1.92 short
02 Subaru Impreza WRX, 129k miles
97 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport, 236k miles

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Reply #5
well i shot summit an email, ill let y'all know what they have to say.
 
Red_LX---
 
where must the hangers be re-welded on? it sounds like further back? can i not use my original driver's side hanger and put another one on in the same spot on the passenger side?
1987 20th Anniversary Cougar, 302 "5.0" GT-40 heads (F3ZE '93 Cobra) and TMoss Ported H.O. intake, H.O. camshaft
2.5" Duals, no cats, Flowmaster 40s, Richmond 3.73s w/ Trac-Lok, maxed out Baumann shift kit, 3000 RPM Dirty Dog non-lock TC
Aside from the Mustang crinkle headers, still looks like it's only 150 HP...
1988 Black XR7 Trick Flow top end, Tremec 3550
1988 Black XR7 Procharger P600B intercooled, Edelbrock Performer non-RPM heads, GT40 intake AOD, 13 PSI @5000 RPM. 93 octane

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Reply #6
Do you have access to a welder?  and can you operate it?
  If so you can mount the hanger @ the very end and bolt thur the
thin sheet metal below the bumper shocks.
  The rear for the question about the weld is, I have rod and rubber hanger you can use that you can heat and rap around the pie and weld.




SCT Tuned by Me(Greg@SpeedyDyno.com)

E.T. 10.28 @ 136.5 MPH 1/4 mile: List of Mods; 351 EFI, AFR heads,AOD,Rousch 13in frt brakes,11in rear brakes, AirRide Tech air ride system, Sub frame connetors,2400 RPM stall, 3.50,BBK shorties,T62PT Turbos  air to air intercooled, Home built kit.
Car weights 3705lbs without driver:burnout:

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Reply #7
well my cousin started a shop last year nearby, with his friends, and does a lot of detailing and body work, but also mechanical work. he offered to help me weld the tails on. he said i should so they seal better. ill have to ask him but ill bet hed be more than willing to help me with the hangers too.
 
oh another thing. my pass. side ler is hung in a VERY homespun way. :hick: id like to get an actual correct ler hanger. i see where it would go, there are holes just like those where the driver side one is. can i just buy a ler hanger for a mustang? or maybe even better the one for an 88 cougar with duals?
1987 20th Anniversary Cougar, 302 "5.0" GT-40 heads (F3ZE '93 Cobra) and TMoss Ported H.O. intake, H.O. camshaft
2.5" Duals, no cats, Flowmaster 40s, Richmond 3.73s w/ Trac-Lok, maxed out Baumann shift kit, 3000 RPM Dirty Dog non-lock TC
Aside from the Mustang crinkle headers, still looks like it's only 150 HP...
1988 Black XR7 Trick Flow top end, Tremec 3550
1988 Black XR7 Procharger P600B intercooled, Edelbrock Performer non-RPM heads, GT40 intake AOD, 13 PSI @5000 RPM. 93 octane

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Reply #8
I have no "correct" hangers on my car. The exhaust on my car was a ler-shop replacement, the tailpipe hangers were all hacked up and one was not an original one, and I can't even remember what was on the lers. I have some slightly modified universal hangers (i.e. kinda combined two different types and welded them together) on the lers, the tails are also kinda home done.

BTW- LIke I said the only one that actually HAS to be relocated is the one on the passenger side pipe. The hanger on it is actually attached to the 11" extension I put on the end of the pipe to reach the bumper. I put it there because I happened to find that threaded hole up near where the bumper brackets bolt on. Can't remember what size it is though...

You may have to just mock the pipes up and figure something out. That's what I did (very time consuming and frustrating)

Garrett H.
'94 F250 XLT- 4x4, 5 speed, 7.3 IDI Turbo Diesel, 4" intake, 4" exhaust, 5" turnout stacks, manual hubs, etc.
'87 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
Engine, wheels, tires, etc!
Exhaust sound clip
Another clip

 

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Reply #9
okay. thats the kind of thing i wanna be aware of. i just gotta make sure my cousin's up to that kind of time commitment.
 
ill keep yall posted on how it goes, pics and all. :pics-stfu:
 
 
im thinking i also want to try something i read about on corral, which is "T-ing" a ~2 foot pipe with a closed end into the side of each tailpipe, right behind the rear axle. this is supposed to cancel out the pattern that makes the infamous Flowmaster 2000 rpm drone. I have to drive it and see how bad the drone is. But if its as bad as the 1000 rpm drone i have now cuz of the dumps, ill probably try it. It doesnt look too hard, and several people in the thread tried the thing this guy did and all had the same response, that the drone was completely gone. Now, it did quiet the exhaust overall down a little, but a nice mean growl was still there and when they really opened it up it screamed. So I think its worth a shot.
1987 20th Anniversary Cougar, 302 "5.0" GT-40 heads (F3ZE '93 Cobra) and TMoss Ported H.O. intake, H.O. camshaft
2.5" Duals, no cats, Flowmaster 40s, Richmond 3.73s w/ Trac-Lok, maxed out Baumann shift kit, 3000 RPM Dirty Dog non-lock TC
Aside from the Mustang crinkle headers, still looks like it's only 150 HP...
1988 Black XR7 Trick Flow top end, Tremec 3550
1988 Black XR7 Procharger P600B intercooled, Edelbrock Performer non-RPM heads, GT40 intake AOD, 13 PSI @5000 RPM. 93 octane