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Title: My 5.0 HO coversion photo album
Post by: kingcars on April 30, 2006, 07:10:44 PM
Since this 5.0 HO conversion is the first big project for me and my car, I have decided to take pictures of the progress.  Today, I sandblasted the shortie headers and painted them.  They look real nice now.  Not bad for $40 and an hour of sandblasting and painting.

Here's a picture of one sandblasted header next to the not-sandblasted header:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/kingcars/headerssmall.jpg)

This picture is the final result:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/kingcars/paintedheader.jpg)

I'll keep updating my album as more stuff gets done.  We currently have all the parts needed for the conversion except for the heads and MAP sensor.  We're also looking into some underdrive pullies and a mid section exhaust to convert my exhaust to true dual exhaust.  Comments are welcome!
Title: My 5.0 HO coversion photo album
Post by: Beau on April 30, 2006, 07:48:37 PM
Looks good man!:D
Title: My 5.0 HO coversion photo album
Post by: DakotaEpic on April 30, 2006, 07:51:44 PM
Wow.  Huge improvement.  Those are the stock shorties of a 5.0 HO right?  I always thought they were more "manifoldy".
Title: My 5.0 HO coversion photo album
Post by: kingcars on April 30, 2006, 07:57:49 PM
Yep, those are stock Mustang headers.  They pale in comaprison to the large equal length small block Chevy headers that dad has, but we dont have $300 to spend, and those will work just great for my application (and they're quite an improvment over the stock manifolds).  Thanks for the compliments.  :D
Title: My 5.0 HO coversion photo album
Post by: 5.0willgo on April 30, 2006, 10:33:51 PM
Headers look good.
I'm not so sure you need a new map sensor though. I used the one that came on my car after I swapped the motor and am still using it. I know there has been some dispute on here but I don't think it's needed. The one you have should work fine. Anyone else want to chime in on this?
Title: My 5.0 HO coversion photo album
Post by: kingcars on April 30, 2006, 10:45:55 PM
Thanks for the compliment.

As for the MAP sensor, the CoolCats site says:
"In talking with several others that have performed the HO conversion, it's been found that the MAP sensor makes a world of difference and therefore is MANDATORY for the conversion."

I've never tried it, so I wouldn't know.
Title: My 5.0 HO coversion photo album
Post by: 5.0willgo on April 30, 2006, 10:54:54 PM
I've seen that on Eric's site as well. I'm not disputing that part but its not mentioned in the section where the HO transplant is listed.
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If your Cougar is NOT a 1986-88 5.0 car to begin with, you will also need the following from a 1986-88 Cougar/Thunderbird 5.0 ONLY:

- Battery tray (yours may still work, but just to be safe, get this one anyway).
- Starter solenoid and ignition coil.
- MAP sensor (firewall).
- A/C lines (stock condenser will work fine. Stock accumulator may work fine, depending upon the model year).
- TAB/TAD sensors; located in the rear passenger side of the engine compartment, behind the strut tower.
- Air cleaner assembly.

This basically states that if your car is an 86-88 5.0, you don't need the MAP. So if you don't need it for the transplant, you shouldn't need it for the conversion.
I know this has been discussed before on this board.
Title: My 5.0 HO coversion photo album
Post by: kingcars on April 30, 2006, 10:57:41 PM
Oooohhh I see.  Thanks very much!!
Title: My 5.0 HO coversion photo album
Post by: tbirdscott on April 30, 2006, 11:21:10 PM
shiney :grinno:
Title: My 5.0 HO coversion photo album
Post by: 32VFoxBird on May 01, 2006, 12:34:47 AM
actually for the mass-air conversion you'll need a BAP sensor. makes no difference really. ive done the swap a couple of times, and all i did was take the vac line off going to it, and capped the line with a bolt.


didnt think there was a differnece between the HO and nonHO MAP sensors
Title: My 5.0 HO coversion photo album
Post by: cougarcragar on May 01, 2006, 07:24:11 AM
What kind of paint did you use on the headers?

Lookin' good.
Title: My 5.0 HO coversion photo album
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on May 01, 2006, 09:46:00 AM
The MAP and BAP are bishagual... :p As long as not defective, they are perfectly happy assuming each others roll...

BTW... Nice job on those headers...
Title: My 5.0 HO coversion photo album
Post by: kingcars on May 01, 2006, 04:00:51 PM
Thanks guys.  :)

As for the paint, I used a high temp aluminum colored paint.  I wasn't even expecting them to come out so shiny :D .
Title: My 5.0 HO coversion photo album
Post by: thunderjet302 on May 01, 2006, 08:51:47 PM
I used high temp paint on mine before I put them in. They were shiney when I painted them but the heat has dulled them alot. They're still silver just dull and not shiney any more.
Title: My 5.0 HO coversion photo album
Post by: kingcars on May 01, 2006, 11:19:18 PM
Yeah, heat does that to headers especially.  As long as the paint stays intact for some time, I'm not too worried about the normal wear and tear.

No big updates tonight (there probably won't be much work going on during weekdays).  We did score a real HO upper intake on ebay for $0.99 + $19 shipping tonight, and hopefully on Wednesday we can close the deal on some E7 heads.  Other than that, the only other expectation is that my EGR stuff should arrive this week.  As for the camshaft, the seller has recieved our money order but hasn't said a thing to us about shipping it.  If he doesn't send the item in 90 days, he's in deep shiznit, but frankly, I don't want to wait 90 days to get my engine together because of some slacking piece of .  Ah well, maybe it will arrive this week.  I hope so!

QUESTION: Do you guys think that it would look cool to paint the upper intake in the same paint as the headers?
Title: My 5.0 HO coversion photo album
Post by: kingcars on May 11, 2006, 05:12:11 PM
UPDATE:  Nothing much new has happened, but my set of E7TE heads arrived today and are in great shape.  Once dad's Chevelle is complete, we're going to take the heads to the machine shop to do some "tweaking" to them :D .  Other than that, I'm STILL waiting for the camshaft to be shipped.  It's the last piece of the HO conversion puzzle.
Title: My 5.0 HO coversion photo album
Post by: Funky Cricket on May 12, 2006, 08:51:46 AM
MORE PICS!!! heheh
Title: My 5.0 HO coversion photo album
Post by: kingcars on May 12, 2006, 03:24:18 PM
Yeah I'll take some more pics soon :D
Title: My 5.0 HO coversion photo album
Post by: Funky Cricket on May 12, 2006, 03:36:24 PM
good. cause we need our pics. we are just pic junkies on a corner of the internet, hoping for a fix.
Title: My 5.0 HO coversion photo album
Post by: kingcars on May 12, 2006, 03:37:24 PM
I'll take pics of all the parts I have so far.  Only thing missing is the camshaft.
Title: My 5.0 HO coversion photo album
Post by: kingcars on May 21, 2006, 11:45:39 PM
As promised, I have started takin pics of my parts.  The first pic I have for you issssss......well, you can see for yourself:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/kingcars/E7headssmall.jpg)
Title: My 5.0 HO coversion photo album
Post by: CougarCoupe88 on May 22, 2006, 12:39:46 AM
i got a set of those. well 2 really if you count the ones on the car. but i have a complete set sitting on the garage floor. and a set of 40's in my brothers garage. some vette. head and some C heads. .........we got alot of heads.....
Title: My 5.0 HO coversion photo album
Post by: Haystack on May 23, 2006, 05:18:04 AM
well if you count broken down cars.......
Title: My 5.0 HO coversion photo album
Post by: Drewstang on June 01, 2006, 12:26:33 PM
I have a Cam if you don't hear from that guy. It needs to be cleaned but it would work for now. It came out of my 91 Mustang 5.0 HO.