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Title: whant to rebuild my comp with new stuff need some advice.
Post by: Cougar8775 on October 26, 2005, 07:04:51 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Intel-SE7525RP2-Server-Board-For-2-Xeon-Processors_W0QQitemZ6814717554QQcategoryZ44941QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem im looking at this to replace my old pentium 2 board. now my question is has anyone delt with this also how do you think it would handle all the newer games? plus i whanna run like a ati radion graphics card with it and wireless internet. or any graphics card that is the best right now. any advice is helpful because im looking at how mutch everything is gonna run me and decide if i whanna rebuild or possibly look into a gaming laptop for more mobil use and all. also i would be running a dual hard drive set up so i cna have all my music and picture files games and all on one hard drive and just have the other one set for just the operating system. like i said any advice would be great. thank you
Title: whant to rebuild my comp with new stuff need some advice.
Post by: armyguy298 on October 26, 2005, 07:34:03 PM
If youre going to build your own, then I would really suggest:

http://www.newegg.com

They have an awesome selection of parts, decent prices, awesome shipping and an excellent return program. I buy all my stuff there.

Im not exactly sure what you are going to do with the system, but I assume it was for gaming? Heres my advice on that:

1. Get a motherboard ready for a 64 bit processor. Vista is coming out next year and a lot of manufacturers will start writing programs with that in mind.

2. Buy as much memory (RAM)as you can afford and as fast as it can get within your budget. I am personally going with DDR2 RAM@800mHz for the front side bus.

3. The top of the line graphics chipset is the 7800GTX from nVidia. Not for the tight-walleted folks. I think it was over 600 at last look. Want to go really fast? Go with a pair of 6800 Ultras in SLI mode. About the same price as the newest 7800.

Im sure others will chime in, but that is the direction I am heading with my latest creation.
Title: whant to rebuild my comp with new stuff need some advice.
Post by: Cougar8775 on October 26, 2005, 07:40:40 PM
basically its gonna be a huge gaming comp so ive been trying to base it all off the newest games. so when i saw the dual processor motherboard i thought it wouldn't hurt to have one like that to run the games like battlefield 2 F.E.A.R swat 4. games like those. and i planed on having it for a couple years to use and serve for picture editing and all. alsi im kinda looking to build it in mind for my woman's college coarce cuz she is going for didgital art and she would need a really fast comp to do so.
Title: whant to rebuild my comp with new stuff need some advice.
Post by: t-bird85 on October 26, 2005, 07:43:10 PM
Intel processor are not good gaming chips, they are a logical chip and are built for data processing, Amd on the other hand is not, they are a graphical chip and handle it better.  I would spend you money on a good AMP board and chip go to http://www.mwave.com look at their combos
Title: whant to rebuild my comp with new stuff need some advice.
Post by: armyguy298 on October 26, 2005, 07:48:10 PM
The latest dual core processors are great for multitasking, but the software engineers havent quite used it to its full potential for games. It might be the way to go now if you dont plan to upgrade again for another year or so. Big time cash though. Sounds like you have a good idea what you want it to do...just focus on the graphics card and lots of memory.

I play BF2 on a:

 P4 w/HT 2.8 gHz 800 mHz frontside bus
1 gb RAM PC 3200
nVidia 6600 GT 256 mb RAM
160 gb hard drive (partitioned)
19 CRT monitor

It runs pretty decent, but 2 gb RAM would be ideal.
Title: whant to rebuild my comp with new stuff need some advice.
Post by: armyguy298 on October 26, 2005, 07:49:25 PM
t-bird....you realize your signature says "60 cfm carb"? thats go-cart size man!
Title: whant to rebuild my comp with new stuff need some advice.
Post by: Cougar8775 on October 26, 2005, 07:52:01 PM
well also i whant it all to run at a good speed with 2 hard drives in it. and i don't plan on upgrading for a while once i build it. unless it would be cheaper to get a gaming laptop and all. also whats your bf2 sn mine is for the demo server but when i get the full game its gonna be cougarhunter1
Title: whant to rebuild my comp with new stuff need some advice.
Post by: armyguy298 on October 26, 2005, 09:18:16 PM
Dont go the laptop route unless you have to have the portablility. Once you commit to that course of action, you will not be able to do anything to it but add memory.

You can buy on large hard drive and partition it. (C: and D: drives)

Or you can go with two exact drives in a RAID 0 configuration. Half your data is on one drive and the the other has the other half. When you summon data, both drives can perform the operation at the same time. Downside is, if you lose one drive, ALL your data is wiped out. But the system is really fast.

RAID 1 config is when you have two drives and both have the exact same data on it. Not as fast as a RAID 0, but your data is safe and one drive can be replaced without data loss.
Title: whant to rebuild my comp with new stuff need some advice.
Post by: Cougar8775 on October 26, 2005, 09:30:05 PM
what would be better a external hard drive to store music pictures and all that or the second hard drive like my parents have set up on this comp? and in actuality its kinda slow.sad thing is i have more ram into my pentium 2 comp them they have in this celleron d comp.
Title: whant to rebuild my comp with new stuff need some advice.
Post by: armyguy298 on October 26, 2005, 09:40:59 PM
for speed? go with Serial ATA hard drives in a RAID 0 config.

for reliability? go with two Serial ATA drives in a RAID 1 config.

for backup purposes and portibility? go with the external USB 2.0 hard drive.

for ease of setup go with one drive partitioned.

Serial ATA is the way to go these days. A USB drive will be slower, but you can just unplug it and jam it into another computer. Like carrying lots of music and pics. Games would benefit from the RAID 0. Unless you archive data, or run a business, the RAID 1 is kinda pointless. But there is a speed improvement over a single drive. Hope this is what you are looking for.:hick:
Title: whant to rebuild my comp with new stuff need some advice.
Post by: Cougar8775 on October 26, 2005, 09:43:50 PM
well it does help with the thought process i have. basically im a self imposed comp tech. ive lerned by doing it and making mistakes and all. but it does help me out. now i gotta find what is kinda cheaper to do. but i would like the prtability of a laptop and all not really being tied down by wires. but thank you for the advice.
Title: whant to rebuild my comp with new stuff need some advice.
Post by: t-bird85 on October 26, 2005, 11:20:43 PM
Quote from: armyguy298
t-bird....you realize your signature says "60 cfm carb"? thats go-cart size man!


No wonder im having fuel issues, at least my gas mileage got better:D
Title: whant to rebuild my comp with new stuff need some advice.
Post by: t-bird85 on October 26, 2005, 11:23:17 PM
Also if your buying  a new board do get teh serialt ata like army suggested but also get PCIEXP slots, They replace AGP and are amazingly fast, video cards for it range from 50 to 2k.
Title: whant to rebuild my comp with new stuff need some advice.
Post by: t-bird85 on October 26, 2005, 11:25:39 PM
Most laptops are not built for gaming, the LCD displays do not have teh refresh rate enough to handle lots of poly chages you will be disapointed in that aspect.
Title: whant to rebuild my comp with new stuff need some advice.
Post by: Haystack on October 27, 2005, 01:07:23 AM
If you want the ultimate gaming pc, go for a 64 bit amd. It will out do a p4 even in 32 bit applications. You dont need a butt load of ram, but sometimes it will help out. 512 mb, and 256 mb video card would be fine. I personally have a 64 bit amd with 256 megs ram and a geforce 6600gt with 128, and it will out do virtally any pentium 4 out there.
Title: whant to rebuild my comp with new stuff need some advice.
Post by: t-bird85 on October 27, 2005, 08:17:21 AM
Quote from: Haystack
If you want the ultimate gaming pc, go for a 64 bit amd. It will out do a p4 even in 32 bit applications. You dont need a butt load of ram, but sometimes it will help out. 512 mb, and 256 mb video card would be fine. I personally have a 64 bit amd with 256 megs ram and a geforce 6600gt with 128, and it will out do virtally any pentium 4 out there.


I agree completly, i have the 3.8G AMD Athlon 64 bit, 1G ram with a 256 Geforece 9500(?) and havent had the slightest problem. They are an extremely powerful processor and like someone said Vista is coming. If yo have a monitor HDD and CD-Rom you can get the board, proc, and mem for about 500.
Title: whant to rebuild my comp with new stuff need some advice.
Post by: blown306 on October 27, 2005, 07:59:56 PM
Laptop is out of the question trust me you wont be happy with the graphics. As the others have said a good board with an AMD 64-bit processor at least a gig of ram but 512 will do and a pci-express video card. SATA hard drive for better performance:D