just wondering the differance ?
all of em are v8 dual exaust cars, stiffer springs, have a turbo coupe console with the floor shift, and blacked out accents on the car instead of chrome. i could be missing a few things...
It has a badge that says sport coupe. ? I thought .
nope...at least not that i know of. neither of mine did....
they had either a full digital dash, or buttstuffog, had a rear swaybar, i think they came with the 8 hole wheels, the 14's
i wish i remembered the VIN breakdown, i can find it shortly
If it's a Sport the VIN will start off as 1FABP61
LX's are 1FABP62
Regular T-Birds are 1FABP60
and TC's are 1FABP64
87 Sports have full digital cluster and base (non-TC) seats
88 Sports have full buttstuffogue cluster and TC seats
All have 7.5" traction-lock rear, floor shifter, stiffer springs/swaybars/shocks/struts, and lacked out trim.
my car is just a regular t-bird but what do u call my dash the only thing digital is the speedo and its in mph?
Z
That's the base standard cluster. It's somewhat like the full digital but without all the bells and whistles.
cool mine is a p62
but has factory duals and full digi dash along with a rear sway bar
sorta duals. :D
All '88 V8 Birds and Cougs had the quasi-duals (an exhaust system that I think is needlessly complicated - a y-pipe, a single center pipe, another y-pipe, two lers and two tailpipes - WTF? I yanked it all off and put full duals on mine)
Some base and LX cars had the rear sway bar as well. Mine (base) has one but it's about as thick as a pencil
Strange thing about the Tbird LX is its the luxry model, on a Stang it was the basic model..
Those models did receive a small LX emble on the driverside trunk lid, and often have the extras like corner lights, premium sound, ATC, etc.
Actually on just about all other Fords the LX was the high level model. The rare LTD/LX, the Crown Vic LX, Escort LX and even late models like the Windstar and Taurus LX's are always higher trim levels (and in some cases, like the LTD/LX, an actual performance option). I think it was only the Mustang that used the LX badge on the bottom feeder (though I seem to remember Mustang GL's, GLX's, and L's as well, and I think all were below LX trim level in the early-mid 80's)
the mustang L's where the mustangs that had the 200 inline 6 and a few sporty options. nomarly no luxury features.
Nobody mentioned the Sport also has the quad shocks like the TC and Mustang.
Also 8.8" rear's not 7.5s.
Buddies sport had an 8.8"
Not only complicated, but insanely overweight. Those stock lers are turds.
Nope. 7.5" only. The only T-Birds to get the 8.8 were TC's, and the only Cougars to get it was the '88 XR7
Hmm that's interesting,my buddies sport did have an 8.8" with drums and it was a factory diff not a swapped in stang one.
I know a guy that swears his '88 Sport has a 8.8.... I'v never verified it, but one of these days crawl under it to see(I have no doubt it still has the original rear).
Knowing Ford I wouldn't be surprised if some 88 models had the 8.8 (probably toward the end of the model run), but AFAIK, officially, the 8.8 wasn't offered
For a short period of time I had an '87 Sport for parts (of which some of you are the proud owners of, I think). It had the 5.0 SO (burned up, I think) with the full digital dash cluster and floor-shift AOD (man, why didn't I yank that out before it went to the crusher?), and non-TC seats with power recline. It had dual power seats, lighting package, autolamp, power antenna, digital climate control, Premium Sound w/ EQ, and keyless entry, also. This was a super-loaded car! Can't comment on the Trac-Lok rear, the data label in the door was entirely faded out, BUT this car had single exhaust, which I'm pretty sure was its factory setup. I think I remember it having the rear sway bar. I could kick myself for not being able to keep the car for future applications, but the local authorities let me know that it had to disappear from the backyard right away. It had a junk title, too (an interstate recovery), so it was never gonna see the road again. I yanked out everything I could in the short period of time I was given, and let the local s yard have the rest (yes, the floor-shift AOD and all). ARGGH! It even had a NICE set of American Racing 14"-ers with good rubber, but each wheel had a locking nut on it and of course there was no key. I tried everything to get them off, but I lost them, too. Those wheels were probably worth what I paid for the car by themselves. Oh well, live and learn. But single exhaust only on this car.
Fordman3
I just remembered another oddity that I thought I'd share. The other day on Ebay I saw an '87 XR7 that the owner claimed had an 8.8 rear with quad shocks. He could have been wrong on his year model, but if not, doesn't this qualify as one of those rule-breakers?
Oh, and on the '87 Sport I had, I am also fairly sure it didn't have quad shocks, either. Was that car a ringer as well?
Fordman3
Fordman3
My '87 Sport was as you describe single exaust and all(the fake one into two didn't appear till '88). Mine had a 7.5" T/L rear with 2.73 gear and quad shocks that was std. on the Sports.
My '87 Sport had the 3.08 locking 7.5" that I swapped a 3.27 R&P out of a V6 'Bird into one day when I had to replace the axles. I also had quad shocks and a rear sway bar, and inside the car was a set of non-TC seats. Fordman - am I to assume that the seat covers you sold me came from that '87 Sport? I finally got around to putting them in the car a few weeks ago, after re-dying them. They look like new now :D
My current car (non-Sport) has a 2.73 open 7.5" without quad shocks, but it does have a pencil-sized rear sway bar and 10" rear brakes...
ThunderChicken,
Yup, the seat covers you purchased came from the same car. Hey, if you can, send some pictures of the completed seats so I can see how they turned out. Thanks.
Fordman3
Yeah, I'll have to post some soon. My camera's memory card packed it in and I can't justify buying a new one because SmartMedia cards are obsolete and expensive and the camera isn't worth the investment. I'll have to borrow my father's Sony.
Unfortunately, also because of the bad memory card I have no pics of the installation procedure. I had a helluva time finding hog ring pliers (could NOT find them locally and ended up getting some off eBay). Other than actually finding the pliers, though, the installation was fairly smooth. The only real problem I had was that the Sport drive's seat bottom cover was slightly narrower than my non-Sport, ex-consolette seat frame - or rather it was too narrow to stretch over the stub of consolette frame, so I had to cut it off flush - a big PITA, if you know how large that consolette bracket actually is...
Chicken,
Hey, did I sell you the headrests, too? I can't seem to find them around here and someone is interested in them. I really don't remember if they were included in your package or not. I actually hope you bought them so I can be sure I haven't lost my mind. Please just let me know.
Oh, I was wondering if you could confirm/(un)confirm the '87 XR7 with the 8.8 w/ quads. It's probably still on Ebay under "1987 Cougar". That car may actually be worth something.
And, another well-known '87/'88 Cougar is on Ebay, also. I think his name is "289Cougar(?)". Anyway, there's a maroon '87/'88 Cougar with a black TC hood, TC snowflakes, and a 289/4-speed for sale on Ebay. I strongly prefer the '83-'86 Cougars (sorry), but I wouldn't mind owning that car. I think a well-built 289 is what I'd like to drop in my '83 LS someday. Just kinda a nostalgia thing. A 289 is just supposed to sit in a Mustang or Cougar. Or a Boss 302. Or a 428CJ. Or a ...... Sorry.
Fordman3
The LX's have a full digi-cluster as well right? I know mine is an LX and I have the full digi-cluster, but no duals, springs, sways, etc. etc.
Not to revive an old old thread, but the 87 Sport in the 'yard at work has the TC seats.
It also has the TC style door panels, and full console, but column shift, and base cluster.
I noticed the seats yesterday while I was looking for good grey visors, I'd have pulled the driver seat, if the back wasn't twisted like my TC one is.
I actually prefer the TC seats to the ones I have now, but I know they ain't as strong. These done some time in a 300 horse Capri, and it was romped on often, at least when I had it, it was.
Are ya sure it was a Sport (P61)? I was under the assumption that all Sports had floor shifters. The car you describe actually sounds more like an LX (P62). I had actually forgotten all about this thread, and had meant to address one of Tom's statements:
My late '87 (manufactured May 87) had the fake duals. It may not have been factory, though, as the car was already over a decade old when I bought it, but I can't see somebody actually going through the trouble to install all that instead of true duals, which is what I did after a tailpipe decided to part company on the way to the cottage one day...
They did... The floor shift was std in the Sports and TCs...
My 87 TBird V6 has the base cluster, power seat, power mirrors, auto dimming lights, cruise, full tripminder, rear sway bar, power windows/locks, 60/40 seats and A/C. I looked at the VIN and it is a P60. Is this correct?
James
P60 is the base Bird, a lot of your equipment was optional...