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Technical => Engine Tech => Topic started by: lostbrew on August 12, 2005, 10:53:07 AM

Title: shorty header question...
Post by: lostbrew on August 12, 2005, 10:53:07 AM
i just bought these http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4564566017&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT will they bolt up to the 84 5.0 cfi motor? because ive looked at my headers and then these im unsure if they will bolt up. any opinion would be great thanx.
Title: Re: shorty header question...
Post by: Ether947 on August 12, 2005, 11:49:15 AM
You need a Mustang H-Pipe and some kinda cat-back to finish the job.
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Post by: Funky Cricket on August 12, 2005, 02:40:08 PM
cat back, just run open headers.. the neighbors won't mind.
Title: Re: shorty header question...
Post by: Sick88Tbird on August 12, 2005, 04:20:22 PM
If you've got a column shift, you'll have to change over to a floor shift.  Unless somebody has figured a way around that...either way, a B&M looks nicer.
Title: Re: shorty header question...
Post by: lostbrew on August 14, 2005, 10:19:00 AM
well ive been looking under the hood and by the looks of it the  where the header mounts up to the head on the engine are different. the stock ones i have now look to have the bolts diagional from eachother. and these have em across from eachother. now i can see by that its possibul it isn't gonna bolt up. maybe change the heads?
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Post by: Tbird232ci on August 14, 2005, 10:39:08 AM
they will bolt up to your heads
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Post by: cougarman on August 14, 2005, 11:05:13 AM
Maybe he is talking about the how the cast manifolds have one long and one short bolt on each port?. Yes they will bolt up, you will need new bolts though! :D
Title: Re: shorty header question...
Post by: Chuck W on August 14, 2005, 02:14:26 PM
Quote from: Sick88Tbird
If you've got a column shift, you'll have to change over to a floor shift.  Unless somebody has figured a way around that...either way, a B&M looks nicer.

Had a set on the ex's 83 5.0 w/ a column shift.  I don't remember having to change anything.......
Title: Re: shorty header question...
Post by: Haystack on August 14, 2005, 02:30:47 PM
I think that it goes through part of the headers.
Title: Re: shorty header question...
Post by: Ifixyawata on August 15, 2005, 02:01:06 AM
Stock mustang headers fit my '85 CFI car just fine.  There's even an area that's already clearanced for the steering shaft.  Column shifter doesn't interfere either.  Direct bolt-on.
Title: Re: shorty header question...
Post by: Sick88Tbird on August 15, 2005, 07:51:05 PM
I guess it's just the later models that have clearance problems then...the linkage would have run right through the h-pipe a few inches after the header outlet.  BTW, don't try sliding the shift lever off of the gear selector shaft...it usually results in snapping the shaft(on AOD's anyway)
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Post by: TurboCoupe50 on August 15, 2005, 08:40:36 PM
I suspect the stock HO headers can be made to work fairly easily. But the aftermarket units are larger and not pinched for extra clearance. I know Ronnie used column shift with his 1 5/8 shorties, but was always having problems.
Title: Re: shorty header question...
Post by: Bob on August 16, 2005, 08:38:02 AM
I've used 1 5/8 shorties with a column shift, my biggest problem was with the pre-cat on the driver side. It layed right under the shift bar for the AOD. It would "pop" the car into neutral when launched hard, and neutral is not a good place to be when your WOT