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Technical => Suspension/Steering => Topic started by: URDAPREY on July 15, 2016, 08:02:56 AM

Title: full spherical rear suspension
Post by: URDAPREY on July 15, 2016, 08:02:56 AM
Anyone running spherical suspension on the street?
How are the heim joints holding up?
Title: full spherical rear suspension
Post by: thunderjet302 on July 15, 2016, 02:53:20 PM
I've got Maximum Motorsports extreme duty rear lower control arms with spherical bushings on my Thunderbird (stock rubber bushed rear upper control arms). Rides fine with no issues. They do transmit more differential/road noise to the cabin however. My solution was to turn up the radio ;).

Edit:

These: http://www.maximummotorsports.com/Extreme-Duty-Adjustable-Rear-lower-Control-Arms-1983-1989-Thunderbird-P1444.aspx
Title: full spherical rear suspension
Post by: URDAPREY on July 15, 2016, 08:00:03 PM
Stereo fixes almost all annoying noises.
I like the adjustability of those LCA'S.
Nice sleeper you have there...surprised a few people I imagine.
Title: full spherical rear suspension
Post by: thunderjet302 on July 18, 2016, 05:38:19 PM
Most people don't know what passed 'em ;)
Title: full spherical rear suspension
Post by: URDAPREY on July 18, 2016, 07:26:56 PM
That's what I'm looking forward to once again.
Unfortunately the original drivetrain in the 85 is trashed. So I'm waiting for my transplant to be complete.
I get alot of 20 something year olds asking me
 what car is that?
Title: full spherical rear suspension
Post by: thunderjet302 on July 18, 2016, 08:09:40 PM
Just point to the "Thunderbird" script on the deck lid ;)
Title: full spherical rear suspension
Post by: Moonmount on July 26, 2016, 02:12:59 AM
http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=902398&postcount=5 and ive heard if you replace the uppers with spherical you get crazy and unpredictable handling and you can rip your torque boxes out so you want to retain stock rubber upper bushings as urethane bushings induce alot of bind
Title: full spherical rear suspension
Post by: Aerocoupe on July 26, 2016, 11:49:09 AM
Maximum does not sell the correct UCA's for our cars and will give you the same advice with regards to using spherical bushing control arms in the stock locations.  I am running Global West UCA's (basically GM A-Body units but they have a part number for our cars) with spherical bushings on the body side and rubber bushings pressed into the ears of the rear end which are paired with my Griggs Racing heim jointed LCA's.  This setup is supposed to eliminate the binding due to the LCA's being heim jointed.  With the limited amount of street time I have had in the car is seems to work as advertised.
Title: full spherical rear suspension
Post by: thunderjet302 on July 27, 2016, 01:48:30 PM
Quote from: Moonmount;456306
http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=902398&postcount=5 and ive heard if you replace the uppers with spherical you get crazy and unpredictable handling and you can rip your torque boxes out so you want to retain stock rubber upper bushings as urethane bushings induce alot of bind


Quote from: thunderjet302;456170
I've got Maximum Motorsports extreme duty rear lower control arms with spherical bushings on my Thunderbird (stock rubber bushed rear upper control arms). Rides fine with no issues. They do transmit more differential/road noise to the cabin however. My solution was to turn up the radio ;).

Edit:

These: http://www.maximummotorsports.com/Extreme-Duty-Adjustable-Rear-lower-Control-Arms-1983-1989-Thunderbird-P1444.aspx


That's what I did. Maximum Motorsports recommends always using rubber bushings in the upper control arms.
Title: full spherical rear suspension
Post by: Aerocoupe on July 27, 2016, 01:52:57 PM
Unless you run a pan hard bar and torque arm then you don't run any :D :D :D
Title: full spherical rear suspension
Post by: thunderjet302 on July 27, 2016, 07:51:43 PM
Quote from: Aerocoupe;456349
Unless you run a pan hard bar and torque arm then you don't run any :D :D :D

I'm really considering a Maximum Motorsports pan hard bar as a winter project. The car handles great with the upgraded control arms but the pan hard bar seems like it would make it even better.
Title: full spherical rear suspension
Post by: Aerocoupe on July 27, 2016, 07:57:09 PM
With the pan hard bar you at least get to get rid of one of the UCA's. I went straight from the MM lowers and police interceptor uppers on my Coupe to the pan hard bar and torque arm...night and day difference.
Title: full spherical rear suspension
Post by: Pressure cooked chicken on July 27, 2016, 10:47:33 PM
Mine has been all spherical (including upper axle mount) for about 2 yrs now. Probably around 2500 miles. Transmits a good amount of road noise and you get a clunk here an there when going over bumps but it isn't that bad. I also have a Team Z ARB in the back that stays hooked up even on the street. Keeps the car remarkably flat even without a front swaybar.
Title: full spherical rear suspension
Post by: URDAPREY on July 30, 2016, 12:46:38 AM
Thanks for input guys
I'm replacing my upper and lower boxes
I'm not d/d' ing my car ....I'm looking for bird to hook hard and straight. My concern was if I had to replace my sphericals every year or not. 2500 miles and no issue is good enough for me.
Are you lubing the sphericals constantly?
Title: full spherical rear suspension
Post by: Pressure cooked chicken on July 30, 2016, 06:55:12 PM
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Thanks for input guys
Are you lubing the sphericals constantly?
They have a nylon protective cover that keeps trash out. I have not lubed them since they were put in.

Edit: Found out they are teflon lined. Not supposed to lube them.
Title: full spherical rear suspension
Post by: URDAPREY on August 01, 2016, 12:25:49 PM
I'll be sure to get Teflon lined.
Did the covers come with you arms or did you buy them separately?
I live in a rural area...not the cleanest roads around so those sound like a great idea.
Title: full spherical rear suspension
Post by: thunderjet302 on August 01, 2016, 10:08:43 PM
Quote from: URDAPREY;456503
I'll be sure to get Teflon lined.
Did the covers come with you arms or did you buy them separately?
I live in a rural area...not the cleanest roads around so those sound like a great idea.

The Maximum Motorsports lowers come with poly covers for the bushings.
Title: full spherical rear suspension
Post by: URDAPREY on August 02, 2016, 09:50:24 AM
Thanks Thunderjet
Title: full spherical rear suspension
Post by: thunderjet302 on August 03, 2016, 03:03:14 PM
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Thanks Thunderjet

No problem.

The maximum Motorsports pieces aren't cheap but very well made. Worth the money if you ask me.