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Title: Yellow viscous fluid in oil fill tube?
Post by: jpc647 on February 10, 2011, 09:17:16 PM
Engine is a 5.0 out of 87 t-bird. I checked my oil tonight after screwing around with the EGR system only to find this:
I vaguely remember someone else having this problem but I don't know the outcome. I searched, but I have no idea what this would be under.


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But this doesn't look good. It goes from the plenum into that tube running to the oil fill neck, and stops there. Um...
Title: Yellow viscous fluid in oil fill tube?
Post by: Aerocoupe on February 10, 2011, 10:10:01 PM
Blow by in the clylinders would be my guess.

Darren
Title: Yellow viscous fluid in oil fill tube?
Post by: Ductape91 on February 10, 2011, 11:44:05 PM
do you make a lot of short trips or not let your car warm up completely, could be condensation making that.
that, or your head/intake manifold gaskets blown.
Title: Yellow viscous fluid in oil fill tube?
Post by: Chuck W on February 10, 2011, 11:47:34 PM
I would guess it's condensation. If the oil in the pan is still normal, I wouldn't worry about it.
Title: Yellow viscous fluid in oil fill tube?
Post by: mcb82gt on February 11, 2011, 08:14:17 AM
That is moisture.  Source: Condensation from alot of short trip driving(not getting the oil hot enought long enough) or coolant getting in there.
Title: Yellow viscous fluid in oil fill tube?
Post by: flylear45 on February 11, 2011, 09:58:06 AM
Quote from: mcb82gt;352593
That is moisture.  Source: Condensation from alot of short trip driving(not getting the oil hot enought long enough) or coolant getting in there.

+1

Like Chuck said, pull your dipstick and see what the oil in the pan looks like. May not be a big deal as cold as it's been up there.
Title: Yellow viscous fluid in oil fill tube?
Post by: jpc647 on February 11, 2011, 05:20:44 PM
Now it's only in the tube running from the plenum to the oil fill neck.
Title: Yellow viscous fluid in oil fill tube?
Post by: jpc647 on February 11, 2011, 06:15:13 PM
Quote from: mcb82gt;352593
That is moisture.  Source: Condensation from alot of short trip driving(not getting the oil hot enought long enough) or coolant getting in there.

I'm thinking coolant might have gotten in there. The hose that runs out the back of the upper plenum and down into the intake manifold I unplugged to replace the hole. So the antifreeze wouldn't leak I put my thumb over the hole. Could I have rerouted antifreeze in doing this?

And I'm wondering if this could be somehow related to my EGR valve problem.

Also, someone else had a problem like this a while back... I remember pictures. Anyone remember who it was? I searched, but I have no idea what they might have titled it. I searched for "Oil fill tube", "Yellow" "Oil line", got nothing.
Title: Yellow viscous fluid in oil fill tube?
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on February 11, 2011, 06:52:17 PM
Common problem to have the cap and filler coated with mayonnaise in the cold temps, if it does it in warm weather the PCV could plugged or maybe have a leaking head or intake gasket...
Title: Yellow viscous fluid in oil fill tube?
Post by: 86XR7project on February 11, 2011, 08:26:00 PM
I had that on my Catera, turned out the intake gasket was boned.
Title: Yellow viscous fluid in oil fill tube?
Post by: jpc647 on February 11, 2011, 10:28:49 PM
Quote from: TurboCoupe50;352653
Common problem to have the cap and filler coated with mayonnaise in the cold temps, if it does it in warm weather the PCV could plugged or maybe have a leaking head or intake gasket...

Well I just replaced the intake gasket not too long ago. I checked the pcv valve, it looks okay. I can try pulling the screen out just to see, but it was just out a couple of months ago.

Quote from: 86XR7project;352665
I had that on my Catera, turned out the intake gasket was boned.
What the . Mine was just replaced, lol.
Title: Yellow viscous fluid in oil fill tube?
Post by: Thunder Chicken on February 12, 2011, 06:10:07 AM
What it is, is entirely normal. I wouldn't fret it...
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Post by: jcassity on February 13, 2011, 01:06:02 AM
drain your oil in a pan with a white trash bag covering it,, that way black doesnt  dominate the color of the oil and you can see better.

if you got the same looking stuff coming out the bottom, then your HG or intake gasket is jacked up.
If so you should be complaining about having to add coolant too often.
Title: Yellow viscous fluid in oil fill tube?
Post by: Stealth on February 20, 2011, 12:23:11 PM
It is water emulsified with oil. Possibly an indication of a coolant leak, but just as likely condensation of normal combustion vapor. Are you losing coolant? If not, check the PCV system, particularly the rolled-up mesh separator stuffed into the hole in the lower intake manifold under the PCV grommet. It is at the back and hard to reach, and they like to plug up, causing insufficient purging of crankcase vapors. Pull it out and clean underneath it, then replace it or use solvent and air to clean it. Also make sure the nipple at the upper manifold is not carboned up and restricted. And if that doesn't fix it I won't charge you.
Title: Yellow viscous fluid in oil fill tube?
Post by: Scott D on March 13, 2011, 05:44:26 PM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;352698
What it is, is entirely normal. I wouldn't fret it...

Yup. My wife's car gets the same thing ...she does a lot of short trips, thus the milky looking stuff.
Title: Yellow viscous fluid in oil fill tube?
Post by: jpc647 on March 13, 2011, 06:58:18 PM
Quote from: Stealth;353439
Also make sure the nipple at the upper manifold is not carboned up and restricted. And if that doesn't fix it I won't charge you.

What nipple? The one the hose from the pcv valve connects too.