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Title: I wish these valve covers fit EFI 302s
Post by: thunderjet302 on January 06, 2011, 02:25:38 PM
Has anyone else seen these? http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=12038

I wish they would fit my engine.
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Post by: daminc on January 06, 2011, 03:35:43 PM
what makes them not fit?
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Post by: kendoo130 on January 06, 2011, 03:50:50 PM
$320 bucks??!!!  No thanks!!!
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Post by: ZondaC12 on January 06, 2011, 04:21:54 PM
Because they're for......actual COBRA JET engines!!!! You ricer poser wannabe !! LOL
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Post by: dragon574444 on January 06, 2011, 04:22:58 PM
"Also Fits: 289/302/351W engines" I think I'm missing something...
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Post by: vinnietbird on January 06, 2011, 04:35:42 PM
They are for small block Ford engines. They aren't for actual (as we know them) COBRA JET engines. They were big blocks ....except for the 351 Cleveland...351CJ as used in the '71 Stangs). They aren't for the EFI engines due to the oil fill either being under the intake on the driver side,or under the throttle linkage on the passenger side. You need to have some serious motor to back those up.
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Post by: Beau on January 06, 2011, 04:51:04 PM
Meh. Too pricey, too copycat-ish.
(and that's being nice lol)
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Post by: daminc on January 06, 2011, 05:29:46 PM
so could you use covers like this on a TB engine with no problems? I'm guessing yes?
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Post by: vinnietbird on January 06, 2011, 06:00:20 PM
Word my brutha!!! They'll work like a charm.
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Post by: mcb82gt on January 06, 2011, 06:15:31 PM
I would be saying it has a better chance at clearing, It says they were 3.75 tall or something.  I assume you mean like a CFI engine??
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Post by: vinnietbird on January 06, 2011, 06:17:09 PM
That's what he's talking about. CFI (or TB) They are tall enough to clear roller rockers.
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Post by: Haystack on January 06, 2011, 06:36:33 PM
You could always do a carb style intake with an elbow and throttle body.
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Post by: daminc on January 06, 2011, 07:16:07 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;348606
That's what he's talking about. CFI (or TB) They are tall enough to clear roller rockers.

 
Correct The CFI in the vert
I was just curious. I see a lot of nice covers that say not for efi.... The vert will need some snazzing up in the future after the paint and repairs..
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Post by: vinnietbird on January 06, 2011, 10:05:20 PM
Right Jerry...When they say "for EFI",they are referring to the SEFI like the Sport and your Cougar have.

Speaking of SEFI,the Explorer intake is going out tomorrow. I haven't had any time til after the UPS closes. Take care of it and love it as I did.
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Post by: vinnietbird on January 06, 2011, 10:05:33 PM
Right Jerry...When they say "for EFI",they are referring to the SEFI like the Sport and your Cougar have.

Speaking of SEFI,the Explorer intake is going out tomorrow. I haven't had any time til after the UPS closes. Take care of it and love it as I did.
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Post by: daminc on January 06, 2011, 10:25:47 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;348679
Right Jerry...When they say "for EFI",they are referring to the SEFI like the Sport and your Cougar have.

Speaking of SEFI,the Explorer intake is going out tomorrow. I haven't had any time til after the UPS closes. Take care of it and love it as I did.

I will Vin.....did you name it?
This will work out great...my wife is going away on business for 10 days...I'm planning on trying to put everything together while she's gone..... Headers will be here tomorrow and I have a lot of wiring up to do
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Post by: vinnietbird on January 06, 2011, 10:40:29 PM
Her name is Hunkuv A. Luminum.
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Post by: daminc on January 06, 2011, 10:50:02 PM
Is that Hungarian?
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Post by: hypostang on January 06, 2011, 10:51:00 PM
Quote from: daminc;348694
Is that Hungarian?

Australian
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Post by: vinnietbird on January 06, 2011, 11:19:32 PM
Actually,it's Bulgarian. I removed the mono brow.
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Post by: daminc on January 06, 2011, 11:27:37 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;348700
Actually,it's Bulgarian. I removed the mono brow.

:rollin:
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Post by: daminc on January 06, 2011, 11:28:26 PM
..
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Post by: hypostang on January 06, 2011, 11:37:00 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;348700
I removed the mono brow.
Is that similar to a casting line ?
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Post by: thunderjet302 on January 07, 2011, 01:05:39 AM
Quote from: ZondaC12;348588
Because they're for......actual COBRA JET engines!!!! You ricer poser wannabe !! LOL

 
They'd sit on top of a 428 Windsor ;).


Yeah I have the money for that swap.....
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Post by: vinnietbird on January 07, 2011, 07:58:33 AM
428 Windsor....shaker scoop...Oh yeah !!!!
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Post by: vinnietbird on January 07, 2011, 07:58:56 AM
Quote from: hypostang;348706
Is that similar to a casting line ?

Yes,but much softer........
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Post by: V8Demon on January 07, 2011, 10:45:41 AM
Buy 1" tall intake manifold spacer kit.
Buy 3/8" tall spacer as well. 
Use both spacers with extra gasket.


They'll not fit on an EFI motor......

Oh BTW -- this will clear a stock hood.
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Post by: Kitz Kat on January 07, 2011, 01:40:02 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;348593
They are for small block Ford engines. They aren't for actual (as we know them) COBRA JET engines. They were big blocks ....except for the 351 Cleveland...351CJ as used in the '71 Stangs). They aren't for the EFI engines due to the oil fill either being under the intake on the driver side,or under the throttle linkage on the passenger side. You need to have some serious motor to back those up.

I think the oil fill would clear on the drivers side, just put a rubber cap in the the other side. You may have to run a longer hose from the passenger side to the throttle body.
In my opinion there are better covers cheaper out there, hint hint Vinnie!!
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Post by: Kitz Kat on January 07, 2011, 01:48:48 PM
Quote from: V8Demon;348735
Buy 1" tall intake manifold spacer kit.
Buy 3/8" tall spacer as well. 
Use both spacers with extra gasket.
They'll not fit on an EFI motor.
Oh BTW -- this will clear a stock hood.


13/8" spacer will still clear the hood? I'm not to sure of that,I never  tried it though.I doubt it would with Chucks mounts though.
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Post by: thunderjet302 on January 07, 2011, 01:50:37 PM
Quote from: Kitz Kat;348748
I think the oil fill would clear on the drivers side, just put a rubber cap in the the other side. You may have to run a longer hose from the passenger side to the throttle body.
In my opinion there are better covers cheaper out there, hint hint Vinnie!!

 
I like my FMS ribbed Cobra covers. I just whish I could build a 428 EFI Windsor to put under those covers ;).
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Post by: Kitz Kat on January 07, 2011, 01:53:18 PM
Quote from: thunderjet302;348751
I like my FMS ribbed Cobra covers. I just whish I could build a 428 EFI Windsor to put under those covers ;).

I here you! they belong on a 428.
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Post by: vinnietbird on January 07, 2011, 03:33:30 PM
Kitz,as soon as I can find the replacement set of covers,yours will be on the way. I'm looking like crazy. What I REALLY want is a set of Trick Flow covers with the rounded top (with the oil fill). Stay tuned.
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Post by: Gearjamer on January 30, 2011, 08:29:44 AM
When I do my Gt40p upgrade these are the covers I want.

http://www.cougarpartscatalog.com/revaco.html
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Post by: Haystack on January 30, 2011, 03:18:01 PM
Or, you could just plug the hole and then re-drill it at the front of one valve cover.
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Post by: vinnietbird on January 30, 2011, 06:06:49 PM
Too many holes. Not cool. The covers need to look "right" They are seen right after the upper intake.
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Post by: V8Demon on January 30, 2011, 06:13:01 PM
Quote from: Kitz Kat;348749
13/8" spacer will still clear the hood? I'm not to sure of that,I never  tried it though.I doubt it would with Chucks mounts though.

 I have the TFS street heat manifold with the basic setup I mentioned and the hood does indeed close.  In fact now that I have newhood mount springs it closes COMPLETELY FLUSH.

I bought Chuck's mounts when I initially out the TFS heads on my car back in 2006.....Due to time constraints I didn't use them.  I had a brand new set of stockers on hand that I put in and kept Chuck's mounts for when they went.    I'm STILL waiting...

Pics....
(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk191/V8Demon/Mustang/Engine_87.jpg)

http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?23773-Cam-swap-It-doesn-t-end-at-the-cam....&p=275138#post275138

My sig pic was taken after the added spacer btw.
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Post by: 88turbo on January 30, 2011, 09:09:16 PM
Quote from: Gearjamer;351212
When I do my Gt40p upgrade these are the covers I want.

http://www.cougarpartscatalog.com/revaco.html

 
I have a set of the originals on my 79
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Post by: hypostang on January 30, 2011, 09:29:10 PM
Quote from: 88turbo;351287
I have a set of the originals on my 79

Sweet .....I first saw a set of those when I was 12 on a real XR7G
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Post by: 88turbo on January 30, 2011, 09:51:40 PM
Hey mine is an XR7 :)
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Post by: hypostang on January 30, 2011, 10:00:56 PM
Quote from: 88turbo;351297
Hey mine is an XR7 :)

but not a 1968 "G" .. still really cool though
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Post by: 88turbo on January 30, 2011, 11:35:42 PM
Thanks :D  its my first car and been an ongoing project for the past almost 11 years
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Post by: sarjxxx on February 02, 2011, 08:41:53 PM
I want a pair of these

http://www.stage3motorsports.com/product/BBK18010/1994-2004-Mustang-V6-Aluminum-Valve-Covers-Set-Chrome.html
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Post by: thunderjet302 on February 02, 2011, 09:08:21 PM
They would look better without the giant BBK logo. I think that without the logo they would work great on your car.
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Post by: sarjxxx on February 02, 2011, 09:14:55 PM
Yeah that kinda bugs me too, esp since I'm gonna have MAC headers...but then again, I'm getting a BBK 56mm TB so.....

...at any rate, if its not embossed then I could always grind and refinish them. They are aluminum after all.
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Post by: thunderjet302 on February 02, 2011, 09:16:28 PM
What about getting the stockers chrome platted?
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Post by: sarjxxx on February 02, 2011, 09:34:08 PM
These are much prettier. Stockers are pretty ugly on 3.8's. Besides, I'll prolly end up getting the polished ones anyway, not the chrome. Chrome would be a little over the top for my engine bay. Besides they're half the price too.;)

http://www.americanmuscle.com/bbk-valvecovers-v6.html?utm_content=bbk-valvecovers-v6&utm_campaign=FROOG&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=Shopping
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Post by: vinnietbird on February 04, 2011, 11:20:09 AM
You'd better get to doing some nice detailing under the hood on that engine. Those BBK's are nice looking covers,and will look out of place if the rest of the engine isn't sweetened up. Bead blast the upper and lower intake,clear the bottom after that,and polish the raised areas of the upper,leave the rest natural,and clear that as well. Sweetness. While the intake is off. clean the block and paint it.
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Post by: vinnietbird on February 04, 2011, 11:21:14 AM
Oh,the BBKs for the 5.0 (same design) are the same price on Ebay. I've sen a lot of chrome 3.8 covers for about $40.00 also. That would leave a lot of money for other things.
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Post by: sarjxxx on February 04, 2011, 06:01:05 PM
My engine's cleaner than you think;) And as far as the intake goes, don't worry, I've got a whole 'nother plan for that:evilgrin:

Anyway, at some point in the not so distant future I'm going to be pulling the engine and and painting the chassis cause it's dirttttty and faaaaaded. And then I'm going to be painting/polishing various parts of the engine as well. Actually, 1.5 yrs ago when I swapped the engine I cleaned and painted 95% of everything on my engine. So really, its not that bad. Honest. I just need to powder coat the oil pan cause paint wont stay on it, and take care of a few misc things like the throttle cable and other small things like that.
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Post by: vinnietbird on February 04, 2011, 11:40:37 PM
Are you going with a '99 Mustang style intake (somewhere around that year)? Those are nice looking.
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Post by: Haystack on February 05, 2011, 12:45:52 AM
Swap to the windstar one, and gain some power too.
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Post by: sarjxxx on February 05, 2011, 06:37:30 AM
Quote from: vinnietbird;351867
Are you going with a '99 Mustang style intake (somewhere around that year)? Those are nice looking.

Quote from: Haystack;351870
Swap to the windstar one, and gain some power too.

:evilgrin:

on the nose;)
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Post by: vinnietbird on February 05, 2011, 07:44:52 AM
Do you already have the intake? If so,what vehicle did it come from,and if it came from/or comes from....an SN-95 Stang,would that throttle cable work? The SN-95 Stangs are just modified Fox Bodies.
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Post by: sarjxxx on February 05, 2011, 09:10:06 PM
No, I do not currently have it, but its in a Windstar in a local yard and I know its not going anywhere anytime soon. Yes, the throttle cable should work, but I will have to make some other changes, such as a switch to MAF to make it work properly.

Geez I'm about to have to start a new thread for all this lol.
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Post by: vinnietbird on February 06, 2011, 06:44:14 AM
One wouldn't have to have Mass Air for an intake would you? I thought that was more cam related. Won't it still use the same size injectors as well?
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Post by: sarjxxx on February 06, 2011, 02:03:53 PM
I have to switch to Mass Air b/c the intake uses a different sensor setup than the SD intakes. I think thats why anyway... It doesn't matter either way b/c I want to switch to MAF just for the better power and so I can boost it later.
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Post by: vinnietbird on February 06, 2011, 04:38:34 PM
I know with the 5.0, Mass Air had no effect on power. It was needed when the E303 cam went in. The 3.8 Is not an engine I spent much of any time with,though.
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Post by: sarjxxx on February 06, 2011, 05:08:09 PM
Well afaik I'm still going to need it when I go with boost.;)
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Post by: thunderjet302 on February 06, 2011, 10:22:02 PM
Actually the 5.0 HO SD system can handle boost. You can use a KB blower with the stock 5.0 HO SD system.

Just remember the SD system on an 88 3.8 is a batch fire system. The SD 3.8 system didn't go SEFI till 89 and then went MAF in 91. The T-bird SC was always MAF. AFAIK your best bet for a MAF swap+split port heads/intake is a 99-04 Mustang 3.8 system.
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Post by: sarjxxx on February 06, 2011, 10:48:37 PM
No I want to use a 91-94 3.8 MAF computer so 1. I can keep my distributor and 2. I don't want all the OBD-II bs. And I'm going to go with the windstar intake because it makes better torque, and its lighter and easier to keep clean too. Then It'll get ported and a 65mm MAF too. Then we'll basically be going with an SC shortblock with a forged 4.2 stroker crank in the bottom end. And somewhere in that process I'll be getting some 1.7 roller rockers, which will be unfortunately hidden by me, wait for it, VALVE COVERS.

See how I tied that back in? Now its valid response to the thread again;)
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Post by: vinnietbird on February 06, 2011, 11:02:16 PM
I have Ford Racing polished finned aluminum covers in route for the Sport as we speak. I already have a "visual mod' plan for them. They will be mildly altered. I have to do it. It'll look "right", I promise.
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Post by: sarjxxx on February 06, 2011, 11:18:13 PM
????

What happened to a certain other set of covers that got sent out for the Sport a couple weeks ago????:confused:
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Post by: vinnietbird on February 06, 2011, 11:24:11 PM
They are undergoing a detailing process by a friend. Hopefully plated very soon, but I'm guessing a couple of months. He said he could have them done, but it would have to be between jobs,so,who knows when. In the mean time,The Ford Racing versions will be modified visually and installed. I also have special stickers being made for the MN-12 covers. SWEET !!!