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Title: I finished my cup holder.....
Post by: vinnietbird on August 16, 2010, 08:34:13 PM
I finally got my stuff in the mail. I wanted two, but,due to the size of the cup holders, I can't fit two of them, and with modern cups the size that they are, I figured one is sufficient. I need it more than anyone in the car. Driving a 5 speed, it's a challenge to hold a drink, and the passenger can hold their own drink. Anyway,I assembled the cup holder and installed it. It's a quick change back to stock with two screws ,as console car owners already know. There's actually still plenty of room in the console,which I never use for anything except a tire gauge anyway. What do you think?

(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc205/Vinnietbird/DSCF8416.jpg)
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Post by: hypostang on August 16, 2010, 08:44:45 PM
I like it
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Post by: Chooglin on August 16, 2010, 08:49:18 PM
looks real good Vin.the only thing I am wondering is,dont you kinda have to reach back a bit,to reach the cup?
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Post by: daminc on August 16, 2010, 08:52:02 PM
cool cup holder. My console is always full of spare change. you should see the lincoln's console. must have 80 bucks worth in there. lol
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Post by: gumby on August 16, 2010, 08:52:12 PM
i see someone stuffin an elbow thu their cup on a hard 1-2 shift :hick:
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Post by: T-BirdX3 on August 16, 2010, 08:59:11 PM
Ummmm, I usually have my arm there............
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Post by: daminc on August 16, 2010, 09:03:49 PM
could double as an elbow holder.  :rollin:
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Post by: Chuck W on August 16, 2010, 09:10:57 PM
My MegaSquirt relay board resides under there.  Not the best place for me to put a drink ;)
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 16, 2010, 11:11:04 PM
Well,I tested it with an empty glass,and grabbing the glass was comfortable,and not an issue.Rarely do I need to carry a drink,but when I do,nowhere to put it,so,the new lid.Shifting with a cup there is also not a problem.I like it so far. If I change my mind one day,I'll remove two screws and replace it with the stocker.Easy stuff.It's different,and in my own opinion,it doesn't look out of place or an eyesore.

Jerry,for coins,I always carry a bank bag on the outer side of the driver seat in the floor.Out of the way,and doesn't move.Like you,it has some value in it.LOL.
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 16, 2010, 11:14:31 PM
Quote from: T-BirdX3;332213
Ummmm, I usually have my arm there............


I usually have my hand resting on the pistol grip shifter or the steering wheel.
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Post by: Masejoer on August 16, 2010, 11:59:33 PM
Eh, relocate the window, mirror, and seat controls and fabricate a new center console. That's what I'd do anyways...

I don't drive this car while eating/drinking so a cupholder isn't needed - plus I always use things with solid lids and just toss them into the back seat.

Looks functional and I agree it's easy to revert but I'm not fond of the center console in the first place so creating one from scratch would be my ideal situation. I may do that at some point down the road, moving the window controls to the shifter plate and the mirrors to the door, seat controls to the sides of the seats or on the door. Easy to do and can be reliably done with some simple electrical engineering without the need to run additional large-gauge wire everywhere (so you can go back to stock if you'd like too). Oh how I dislike the center console's lack of efficiency. I guess the same can be said about the center dash also...
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 17, 2010, 12:06:21 AM
I like the console as it is for the most part.Just the lack of a cup holder....which,for my Sport,I have figured out for now. I may get tired of it.I may not.Time will tell.I am now on to other projects....  By the end of the month,I hope to have the windows tinted,a/c working,and a plan on getting the sound deadener purchased.After that,recover the seats.After that........well,I can't see that far.
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Post by: thunderjet302 on August 17, 2010, 12:55:48 AM
These cars don't have cup holders because you're not suppose to have drinks in the car;)
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Post by: Masejoer on August 17, 2010, 01:36:19 AM
Quote from: vinnietbird;332234
plan on getting the sound deadener purchased

Did I miss something?

I was let down by the lot of deadener I installed. All my noise comes from the window areas and top of the doors. I could barely perceive a difference and this was with multiple layers of butyl mass loading, plus NBR/PVC barrier sheeting. Removing the stock deadener, I'm sure this stuff would work as well and be much lighter, but I left the stock stuff intact and noticed next to no improvement. I didn't do the roof but I did the sides, floor, and rear deck/behind the rear seat. I had so much deadener on these spots that when trying to reinstall the bottom of my rear seat, I bent the metal and now I can't get it bent back to reinstall properly. I've added like over 1/2 an inch of mass and barrier deadening around the vehicle. Plus it took me like 4 entire days, dawn to dusk, to properly install it all. I did the sides and rear seat area one weekend and posted pictures here but added more later as I figured I didn't do good enough of a job - it didn't improve...Waste of funds on non-go-faster stuff.

Yeah...I can't recommend the stuff unless you're removing all the stock deadening. I'm surprised that even the doors did well with just their factory padding and door panels.
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 17, 2010, 06:55:44 AM
Quote from: thunderjet302;332236
These cars don't have cup holders because you're not suppose to have drinks in the car;)


Until I get the a/c finished,driving around with the temps outside at 105 plus means there IS a drink in the car.
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 17, 2010, 06:57:46 AM
Quote from: Seek;332240
Did I miss something?

I was let down by the lot of deadener I installed. All my noise comes from the window areas and top of the doors. I could barely perceive a difference and this was with multiple layers of butyl mass loading, plus NBR/PVC barrier sheeting. Removing the stock deadener, I'm sure this stuff would work as well and be much lighter, but I left the stock stuff intact and noticed next to no improvement. I didn't do the roof but I did the sides, floor, and rear deck/behind the rear seat. I had so much deadener on these spots that when trying to reinstall the bottom of my rear seat, I bent the metal and now I can't get it bent back to reinstall properly. I've added like over 1/2 an inch of mass and barrier deadening around the vehicle. Plus it took me like 4 entire days, dawn to dusk, to properly install it all. I did the sides and rear seat area one weekend and posted pictures here but added more later as I figured I didn't do good enough of a job - it didn't improve...Waste of funds on non-go-faster stuff.

Yeah...I can't recommend the stuff unless you're removing all the stock deadening. I'm surprised that even the doors did well with just their factory padding and door panels.


Mine has no roof padding,and the replacement carpet wasn't as thick as the stock carpet.I plan on getting new carpet next year.The exhaust is also somewhat loud.It needs help pretty bad in the "quiet" department.
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Post by: Cougar5.0 on August 17, 2010, 09:12:44 AM
I rest my arm on the console, so this works for me.

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e360/Domeskull/DSCF1271.jpg)
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Post by: ShowBoy on August 17, 2010, 08:17:06 PM
Looks very professional.

So is the plan to get the car to be a 10 outta 10 .......... and then leave it in my driveway?

You're already at 9.9 outta 10.
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 17, 2010, 09:08:28 PM
Make her a 10? I wish. I have a long way to go.I just do what I can when I can on limited to no funds. Makes it more challenging that way.LOL. Eventually,and last,new paint....again. I have plans for a new hood and a couple of other minor "adjustments" with the body. That'll be towards the end of 2011 though. Thanks for the compliments,I really appreciate that from my fellow peers here.Good or bad,I like to hear it all.
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Post by: merccougar93 on August 17, 2010, 10:15:44 PM
Quote from: Chooglin;332210
looks real good Vin.the only thing I am wondering is,dont you kinda have to reach back a bit,to reach the cup?


right hands for shiftn, left hand for drinkin, but it does look good
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 17, 2010, 10:23:54 PM
Thanks a lot.Until I can find a better idea,this is it.,
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Post by: merccougar93 on August 17, 2010, 10:30:41 PM
ive been thinkin of how to do mine, im not sure what im gonna do.
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Post by: Tbird232ci on August 17, 2010, 10:54:27 PM
I really dislike cups in the console. My t/a has one in the console, and it's completely in the way. Knocked the lid off of a McDonalds cup, and that was the end up it.
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Post by: jcassity on August 17, 2010, 10:55:15 PM
man i wish i knew you were doing this,, i would have suggested you find a kia sportage in the yard.

they have a clever pop out of the dash drink holder that kina pops in and out and operates just like our ash trays.  they are very narrow and end up folding up into about 1/2'' of horizontal space approx 6'' deep and bout 7'' wide.

that could be integreated into many spots of our dashes.

i dont like it,, but do like the nice work you did.  My elbow would be all up in my drink all the time especially if no lid is on.
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 18, 2010, 12:16:01 AM
I may check into the Sportage idea.Thanks. But for now,this is what I have to use.As I said,I can easily swap the stock lid back on in two minutes and it'll be like it never was there....if I decide to remove it.
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Post by: Watchdevil on August 18, 2010, 12:53:01 AM
Quote from: vinnietbird;332203


(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc205/Vinnietbird/DSCF8416.jpg)


Looks good Vinnie, like it could have been factory.
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Post by: rodsterh on August 18, 2010, 01:07:57 AM
Looks good!

There were many times I wish I had something like that in my 5sp car. Roadtrip, stop for coffee, no where to put it and still need to shift. :hick:

Great idea and it has that factory look!
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Post by: Masejoer on August 18, 2010, 01:13:40 AM
Quote from: rodsterh;332398
Looks good!

There were many times I wish I had something like that in my 5sp car. Roadtrip, stop for coffee, no where to put it and still need to shift. :hick:

Great idea and it has that factory look!

Open the console and place it in there? It's big enough to hold a large water bottle so if you wedge something in there, a smaller cup would work without a problem. Or just remove the armrest :p
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Post by: Bob on August 18, 2010, 01:39:41 AM
Quote from: Seek;332401
Open the console and place it in there? It's big enough to hold a large water bottle so if you wedge something in there, a smaller cup would work without a problem. Or just remove the armrest :p



That's what I used to do lol
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Post by: Watchdevil on August 18, 2010, 01:40:34 AM
Well here's mine... I have not taken any pics of it installed yet though... it's still too small for really large cups. The SN-95 Mustang consoles were revised two times during the production run. The first revision replaced the covered ashtray with a cup holder that snap fitted into that area. Then the second revision revised the console to include large molded in cup holders. The early console is too good to waste but I suppose at some point if I wanted to bad enough I could switch to the final revision console.

Hard to find a better solution for floor shifter cars other than what Vinnie came up with.
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Post by: Watchdevil on August 18, 2010, 01:46:53 AM
Here is a solution as well...

(http://www.groovy-layouts.com/Images/Funny_Pics/images/redneck_cup_holder.jpg)
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 18, 2010, 01:51:35 AM
I did what I could, with what I had, for uber cheap, and have it come out decent looking and functional (in my own opinion) without making permanant mods to the car and keeping it easy to put back to stock.. I also thought it has a factory-ish look to it. Thanks Kitz for the cap (without Kitz, the Sport would NOT be where it is today).. The console lid was dry and had those fine little cracks all over it......like it had been sun baked for 22 years. Oh,it had been sun baked for 22 years.LOL.
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 18, 2010, 01:52:28 AM
Quote from: Watchdevil;332405
Here is a solution as well...

(http://www.groovy-layouts.com/Images/Funny_Pics/images/redneck_cup_holder.jpg)


THAT cup holder wouldn't even fit in the Sport.........holy .
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Post by: Kitz Kat on August 18, 2010, 03:35:13 AM
So that was your idea, That cap does look like a cushion lid. You know I got that about 6 years ago and never new what it was. Glad you put it to use.
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 18, 2010, 08:44:23 AM
Yep,that's it. I was actually hoping for two holders in the lid,but,the only way to do that was to use two that are made more for cans,which I rarely have,so,one cup console lid.I'm still adapting.I like it,but whether or not it's permanent,time will tell.
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Post by: Watchdevil on August 18, 2010, 12:52:24 PM
I did a search and easily turned up cup holder inserts available that are designed to just drop in a round hole, like for pool tables, RV's and those loungey couches...
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 18, 2010, 01:35:21 PM
I saw those as well. That's what I bought.The one I have was the only one that I saw that was deep enough,and the right diameter to hold a cup that one might get through a drive-up window somewhere..
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Post by: Masejoer on August 18, 2010, 04:07:20 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;332462
I saw those as well. That's what I bought.The one I have was the only one that I saw that was deep enough,and the right diameter to hold a cup that one might get through a drive-up window somewhere..


Buy a small/medium instead of a large? ;)
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Post by: sarjxxx on August 18, 2010, 05:15:19 PM
Hmmm, interesting.

Definitely looks really good vinnie. Far cry from what I was planning...I wasn't sure where you were gonna take this.

That just wouldn't work for me though. My arm is always right there. My 96 had cupholders in the armrest, and I couldn't stand those, so I switched to the in-console  ones. That is what I plan on doing to the 88 too.

As long as you are satisfied with it though, and you seem to be, then what could be better:D
Good work
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Post by: Kitz Kat on August 18, 2010, 05:34:42 PM
Vinnie you got a hole in your armrest!
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 18, 2010, 05:50:51 PM
I "built" it with the intention of not making any permanent alterations.It works fine,not in the way,and I don't have drinks with me hardly ever.It's a "just in case".
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 18, 2010, 05:51:20 PM
Quote from: Kitz Kat;332487
Vinnie you got a hole in your armrest!


Yep.....a deep black hole of cup holding goodness.LOL.
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Post by: daminc on August 18, 2010, 07:05:19 PM
You could just fill it up and use a straw.. lol
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 18, 2010, 08:14:41 PM
Cool idea. I'll need a long straw though. LOL
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Post by: Masejoer on August 18, 2010, 09:39:02 PM
Quote from: daminc;332516
You could just fill it up and use a straw.. lol

This is the best solution to the cup holder issue, ever. That or stick a bladder in the map pocket and snake a straw up and around to face position. You guys know you want to try it!
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Post by: hypostang on August 18, 2010, 09:43:17 PM
I found my mobile beverage solution
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Post by: merccougar93 on August 18, 2010, 09:52:10 PM
not a bad 1, cept for the fuzzies on it.
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Post by: Masejoer on August 18, 2010, 10:03:01 PM
Quote from: hypostang;332535
I found my mobile beverage solution

You must be shorter - I'm like at the roof on these things with the seat all the way down and back. A hat won't fit.
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Post by: hypostang on August 18, 2010, 10:08:51 PM
Quote from: Seek;332545
You must be shorter - I'm like at the roof on these things with the seat all the way down and back. A hat won't fit.


I'm only 5'6" ...I have lots of headroom :hick:
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Post by: Masejoer on August 18, 2010, 10:20:38 PM
Quote from: hypostang;332551
I'm only 5'6" ...I have lots of headroom :hick:

Yeah...it's difficult to fit into many vehicles. I can do the fox Tbird comfortably though and people have modified the seat tracks with little issue for more space. If I was heftier, I'd have some serious problems though - trucks are much more roomy.
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Post by: Watchdevil on August 19, 2010, 12:38:15 AM
Quote from: hypostang;332551
I'm only 5'6" ...I have lots of headroom :hick:


5' 6" here too!
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 19, 2010, 08:23:14 AM
6' even without shoes on,195 pounds.No hat for me that's any more than a ball cap.
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Post by: 1986Élan on August 19, 2010, 09:42:16 AM
vinnie  your cup holder is nicely executed  and im impressed at the impeccable condition of your console lid  you got it nos?
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 19, 2010, 09:59:28 AM
NOS lid? Cut it up? No way.I'd still have it in the box if it were NOS.It's an older lid that had sun cracking all over it,and a plastic,textured console lid cap I installed.Once it has some armor-all on it,it looks really nice.
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Post by: sarjxxx on August 19, 2010, 06:51:38 PM
6'3". Kinda sux


It does look reallly new in the pic...
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 19, 2010, 07:29:55 PM
It looks really new up close and personal as well.
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Post by: Masejoer on August 19, 2010, 09:49:49 PM
Quote from: sarjxxx;332674
6'3". Kinda sux


It does look reallly new in the pic...


Do you look like you do in your avatar when driving? That looks about right ;)

I just used vinyl over the shifter and armrest - it was simple and looks as good as anything else. I hate the creaking when I place any weight on the center console though - THAT is what I want to fix. I think the thing just needs to be beefed up to be made more rigid and thick.
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Post by: sarjxxx on August 19, 2010, 10:41:46 PM
heh... yeah, that pic is normal, but if I sit up straight with the seat all the way up or one notch back, (i usually slouch down a little) my head doeshiznit the roof...
One thing I love about our cars though is that my knees don't hit the dash at least! Don't even get me started on my sisters Miata...

Sorry vinnie should we move to "how tall are you">>> thread?:hick:
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 19, 2010, 10:49:20 PM
Nope, no need to swap threads. Feel free to say whatever you want. We're one big jacked up family. LOL
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Post by: daminc on August 20, 2010, 08:02:37 AM
You should make a cover for the cup holder now....
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 20, 2010, 05:21:03 PM
I thought about a cup holder filler cap when it's not being used. I'll see what I come up with......Hmmmmmmmmm, I'm having an idea........
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Post by: sarjxxx on August 20, 2010, 06:31:11 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;332778
Hmmmmmmmmm, I'm having an idea........

Uh oh

;)
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 20, 2010, 09:22:25 PM
Not a bad thing. Something to make it a little more functional than it already is. I need time to think.........and plan......and gather "stuff".
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Post by: sarjxxx on August 20, 2010, 09:36:51 PM
gather stuff?? You're like a scavenger... a.k.a.  a vulture...  who somehow manged to scavenge up over 12,000 posts!!!WTFingF
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 21, 2010, 06:52:50 AM
Well,over the years,I've had to make it a habit of looking for parts,and ideas,from some of the least obvious places. Building this Sport has been a huge challenge,but,it's easier now with the practice I've had.At first,I was lost,no idea where to look for parts and such.I have a pretty good handle on it now.Bad part,our supply of factory parts are drying up fast.