So i had this 7inch lcd screen layin around for a while, that i got from a tag sale... Decided its time to put it in....
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I cant show you an image on the screen yet, i need an inverter so i have something to plug a dvd or ps2 in.. i was thinking of using a cig lighter one,,, i was planning on wiring a second cig lighter and connecting the lighter and inverter together inside the dash,.. and have the outlet exposed somewhere under the glove box... i still need to make some minor adjustments,.. but all in all, i think its cool......:mullet:
Hmmm, I don't like it. To ricey in my mind, maybe this is one of those things your car could do without?
The only way I'd put a screen like that in my car is if I could patch into the EEC-IV and have operating parameters displayed so the screen would compliment the gauges. Plus it's be cool to have a touch screen PC (that could display the aforementioned engine info plus maybe a GPS, Mitchell OnDemand, etc).
HEY,..... THE RICER THING HURT......j/k i dont know, i always wanted a tv in my car ... I.... myself obviously cant use it while driving,... so its more for passengers, and entertainment in traffic,......
I think its cool....:shakeass:
X2 the engine management would be cool.....
I like it! It would be a lot better with a newer head unit though.
A lot of pioneer radios do that. To the original poster-you can get power from the plug for the original clock-it should be right behind that screen you installed.
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ME LIKEY!!
One question, though, is that a standard OBD-I EEC-IV that thing's talking to? Ok, so make it TWO questions. Or is it OBD-II or EEC-V?
OBD1 - he's using Binary Editor (compatible with the TwEECer, Moates Quarterhorse, and other controllers/tuners). I would prefer an indash with a core2duo myself also but for now my Pentium-M UMPC works. The Fujitsu is popular as it offers a tablet mode along with full keyboard when flipped back up and around. Slow 800Mhz Intel Atom processor though (about a 500MHz Pentium-M/Core Solo in speed). Systems like that work for applications like that and gps but not so well for movies and such.
I want to put a full computer case behind the arm rest in the back seat. It would be almost impossible for someone to know that it was there, and you would have all the room in the world for cooling. I would really like to set up water or oil cooling that way. If you go to mp3car.com, they have multiple pc controller powersupplys that turn on and off just like a car stereo.
Yes but you also need to make sure the on/off doesn't kill the operating system/corrupt any files. I'm sure with sites such as that though, they must have a signal sent to the pc to shutdown and within 5 minutes, force it off if it isn't already so it doesn't drain the battery. Build a cheap/small core2duo as it'll be much more powerful than an atom while drawing the same amount of power at idle (like double under load). Undervolted E7200-7400 series is a good start. Even underclocking it and dropping the voltage to nothing would outperform an atom.
Perhaps just stick an ITX case back there with foam padding.
ITX is so old now. Last I heard, the Nano's something like 3.5X35. Only the video is on the motherboard. Everything else uses the header panel style connectors, like when you used to have to add USB off the motherboard to the front of the case.
I have a 6.5"X6.5" motherboard running at a whole 533MHZ. I also used to have a laptop style keyboard molded to a cruzeless steering wheel, with touchpad.
The shut down controllers are built into most powersupplys, or were about 5 years ago. You could set them up for anything from 1 minute, hour or second. That way if you were only out of the car for 30 seconds filling up gas or getting coffee it could still be ready to go, or you could just set it up for an hour, like if you were to do pizza delivery.
I used to own XP lite and 2000 lite. I could get it to boot up in maybe 10-15 seconds after post. You have to use a solid state hard drive, and setup windows to be read only.
If your every really interested in doing it, let me know. I have looked into doing it for almost 7 years now. Every time I get enough time and money, I end up having car problems, family, or lose my job.
The first thing that came to mind when I saw that was KITT from Knight Rider, though he had 2 screens. :D
How hard is it to set up one of these computers in a car. Is it a stripped down computer so its smaller or what. Im 18 and this is actually something ive never looked into. I want to eventually take a V8 Buick Rainier (i love those things) and build like a low 10 high 9 sec luxury SUV (it would look bone stock minus the drag radials :D). One of the things I wanted to do was run a program into the indash monitor (it was an option on the rainiers) to show the boost and fuel pressure so I wouldnt have to use aftermarket gauges (still want the low key look). Also could you run a program like im talking about but still have a media player etc?
Factory Indash screens I think are still only 320x240 and occasionally 640x480 (or the wide screen variant). You won't be able to run anything decent via PC on such a low resolution. They can be laptops hidden away, stripped down laptops/netbooks/etc, or full PCs mounted behind seats or small form factor such as ITX that can fit tucked away in a dash. Software to give you what you want is another thing though. I am now gathering a parts list to use a microcontroller to do everything from the stereo, other input for gauges and sensors using Binary Editor, output to give my car automatic windows, mirrors, memory seats, etc. Doing it yourself and writing your own programs are the only real way to get what you want in an easy-to-use touchscreen interface that WOULD run on a low resolution screen.
On the cheap, a Fujitsu P1610 works well to strip apart. I prefer a Core2Duo ITX setup for its similar idle power characteristics to an Intel Atom but much more powerful, and power hungry, when you demand some power from the system. Using optical out from the computer to drive a car audio amplifier is another matter altogether though but necessary to get any decent sound out of a PC without spending $2k on proaudio cards.
You'd better hurry with your quick car - remember we are still set to run out of petroleum. We've got a good 10-20 years before it will quickly become more and more scarce as we drive around is silent electrics without any rumble (except those who play v8 noise out of their stereos). I keep thinking of fuel economy but it's hard not to build up power as soon as possible to enjoy it before gas is $40/gallon post-inflation.
Combustion engines wont be going anywhere any time soon. Advances in tech. will let us go to our old oil fields to get the oil to deep to access today and I have read lots of pages on them saying there are still TONS of vast oil fields left on the earth. If most of the average joes buy hybrids in the next ten years that will cut oil consumption drastically BUT that will not stop drilling for oil as even hybrids need lubricant.
Also for a turbo/blower car I would run E98. Good stuff and corn is regrowable :D.
O yea i almost forgot i read we (USA) have enough shale to turn into oil to last us atleast 100 years (cant remember the exact number).
You think this won't cost a ton? One of the big reasons we don't use our own oil is that labor here costs much more. You can move around but the cost is going to increase drastically. Again, you'd better start soon on whatever you do because the hobby is going to get much more expensive. Their estimates of peak oil is still in the 2020's, that hasn't changed in the last 10 years. After that point, oil shoots up in price as supply dwindles down. Other countries becoming more industrial doesn't help the situation any either. Usage keeps rising globally - it's largely what caused the initial rise in gas prices a few years ago.
That's not to say you can't build a powerful vehicle that still gets good fuel economy though. I'm also not sure what they expect to do for many materials that are petroleum based. The majority of consumption is NOT passenger vehicle fuel.
Agan advances in technology will cut costs(well as long as everyone is honest on the numbers like that will happen). im not worried about the gas situation and if something does happen there will prob be some type of new fuel thats cheap. Also im an 18Y college student I dont think im getting that ainier anytime soon.
Also we wont have to worry about the costs and such because of the 2012 apoclypse right :clown:
they have enough in my home state to run the country for 100 years. But, were gonna run out of oil. Just like they said in the 70's,ans 80's and 90's....
There's only so much "technology" can do. Full electrics are being released, along with others that come from the factory with switchover to gas over a certain energy output. There IS fuel to run the country for awhile but that doesn't mean it will be affordable to waste in motorsports, or be exported if it becomes cheaper than other sources. Come 20 years from now, everyone will be singing a different tune. As I said, we must make the most out of it while we can as the hobby will be getting expensive quickly.
We'll just have to wait and find out. I look forward to electrics, its torque, and its simple modification capabilities (to the extent it can be) although here in the northwest that just means more fish population issues due to all the hydro power (80+%). I just hope the engine modifications for mustangs, whether or be electric, hydrogen, or whatever, will work well enough in our own cars too so they can stay on the road for the foreseeable future. The weight savings will be a huge benefit also.
It is nice to see that the projected cost of fuel for 2010 is $2.70 average, but up 5% from this year.
I'll leave it at that. Please start a thread in the appropriate place to debate more if desired: http://foxtbirdcougarforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=34
On topic, if you guys have some suggestions for adding a carpc, I'd like to hear them. I will be adding a 32-bit microcontroller to mine so I can have a basically unlimited supply of I/O to do anything necessary in the car. Reproducing the product for others' use isn't difficult, other than the hardware/wiring. It will start with memory seats, mirrors, automatic windows with speed control, auto dim/brightening of the carpc's lcd screen, tie ins to Binary Editor, EEC buttstuffyzer, Baumann's TCS software, iNav iGuidance, media player classic, input from any sensors you'd like without needing a separate DataQ or equivalent, and so on. It's actually pretty straight forward but controlling the seats with 8 settings will be interesting without using simple timers (may start with this first with a calibration mode so other people can use it without additional sensors). I will also deal with the issue of the power window motors letting you keep supplying current to them when they are already at max/min lift. It's a cheap hobby that will allow me to stay busy and not have the desire to bloe money on other gadgets. It will all be touchscreen based though with big friendly buttons - using a mouse, trackball, or touchpad will be somewhat annoying.
it would suck if you couldn't turn your ac on because your windows crashed. Just something to think about. Also of the home built CNC machines use ford window motors because there cheap and high torque. They have many engine programs for computers nowa days. Many are free.
Some of the things you want are already made. Kind of expensive, and I could see why you would want to do it yourself. I started collecting parts for a "carputer" when i was 15. I was going to throw a bunch of them in the back of my dad's 78 econoline.
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Check out this forum.
http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/engine-management-obd-ii-engine-diagnostics-etc/
I am not planning on removing any of the factory switches - everything can still be ran without the computer running.
I understand there are some things already out there but others there aren't. I already have software for the EEC, just need to expand upon it and other software with a decent GUI to give me everything I need without jumping around through different icons on the desktop and dealing with font/resolution problems of these apps.
Hmmmm, idk.... it would be nice but i think i'd just rather but two screens on my back seats cuz my car is the main cruising car when we go out on friday nights, and thats a distraction to my driving if stuff is flashing right in the side of my sight. but then again, the gauges would be neat cuz sometimes it feels like my car is lying to me when im going 100Mph and only turning 2k-2500 RpM :/