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Title: What the hell...valvebody/sep plate gasketry????
Post by: ZondaC12 on October 06, 2008, 09:48:04 AM
SO I wussed out on my shift kit because it said I'd get BRAIN DAMAGE if I went to the maximum setting. (no joke fellas Baumann sure has a sense of humor). Im PISSED. It sucks, moderate setting and under mid-throttle its affirmative but theres not even a clunk.
 
So Im going to redo it, I can't find valvebody gaskets anywhere? Not parts house sites, not even Summit! Where can I get em? Any chance the ones I put in that were included with the kit might be re-usable?
Title: What the hell...valvebody/sep plate gasketry????
Post by: ZondaC12 on October 07, 2008, 11:04:06 AM
Alright....well I FINALLY found this "transmissionpartsusa.com" and they had em there. $3 for the gasket kit.....$11 for shipping. Pfff. Oh well. Buddy of mine said I shouldn't be re-using the old gaskets so I was really worried about this. Glad I found some.
Title: What the hell...valvebody/sep plate gasketry????
Post by: ~AC on October 07, 2008, 01:15:31 PM
post up a link just FYI?
Title: What the hell...valvebody/sep plate gasketry????
Post by: ZondaC12 on October 07, 2008, 01:23:25 PM
Part 27130K scroll down a bit http://www.transmissionpartsusa.com/AOD_transmission_gaskets_s/12270.htm
Title: What the hell...valvebody/sep plate gasketry????
Post by: Kitz Kat on October 07, 2008, 02:57:47 PM
But, aren't the gaskets different in the baumann kit?, just asking.
Title: What the hell...valvebody/sep plate gasketry????
Post by: ZondaC12 on October 07, 2008, 03:13:09 PM
Oh ya think they'd match it up to the valvebody modifications? I figured it was jsut like universal or something.
 
What do ya gotta buy a  new kit every time you do it!!!?? What the hell. Ill have to compare em I guess. My luck Ill probably end up sending em back. :mad:
 
Ill just re-use em hell therye not even a month old! Ugh.
Title: What the hell...valvebody/sep plate gasketry????
Post by: ~AC on October 07, 2008, 03:29:11 PM
cant blame you for going with a moderate shift kit for the street.
Title: What the hell...valvebody/sep plate gasketry????
Post by: ZondaC12 on October 07, 2008, 03:40:32 PM
Welll......the thing put it in no uncertain terms so I worried...HONESTLY more for the driveshaft u-joints and rear end's sake than my own health (cmon I can heal the car cant). But my buddy got this MINT 81 camaro and the thing practically JUMPS every time it shifts I can't stand it that's what I want. That and feeling that kick will give me the comfort of knowing that it's shifting nice and quick even under load, minimizing the clutch and band wear. So I have to go back in and change it, just hope the gaskets will still hold up....
Title: What the hell...valvebody/sep plate gasketry????
Post by: Kitz Kat on October 07, 2008, 04:12:07 PM
Did you call baumann to see what they think? It's funny with you young guys,how peer pressure guides you's.
Title: What the hell...valvebody/sep plate gasketry????
Post by: ZondaC12 on October 07, 2008, 04:35:02 PM
Ya know I didnt think about it but I suppose I could ask them if they match or if they could just send me one of THEIRS.
 
You have to call to order...so I spoke with someone about the levels...and he said a particular customer couldnt drive his car because he did "everything to the highest setting" and it shifted so hard he couldn't drive it. I mean words are words perception as well...how do I know if I don't ride in said car for myself? Who knows WHAT the car was too...coulda been a big block etc etc
 
And about peer pressure...well YEA lol but....I mean it is perfect...thats what I wanted from the START. But not like so hard it BREAKS things. His car doesnt seem that way I just don't wanna go overboard.
 
I mean I have no experience with this stuff so I dont know what to think. I saw in the manual "MAXIMUM: Definite traction breaking shifts etc etc this ought to be saved only for your non DD if u elect this driveline-abusing mode" See...I mean...$700 total spent on 3.73 gears this summer.....ya know....kinda need that to make sure that doesnt grenade....ugh. In the wrong business I know LOL not for a poor college student!
Title: What the hell...valvebody/sep plate gasketry????
Post by: shame302 on October 07, 2008, 04:36:29 PM
mine used to chirp 3rd easy with wot and chirped 2nd about half throttle, with 355s and 225 tires. this was an 88 with the s.o. 5L. i didnt use the max calibration in that kit.
Title: What the hell...valvebody/sep plate gasketry????
Post by: kwellst on November 03, 2008, 09:32:12 PM
be careful with that shift kit.  you are correct on saving clutch and band life, but the hard parts will now wear quicker IE sunshells, planet's and pinions,  input shafts.  a firm positive shift is way better for the life of the trans than a neck snapper
Title: What the hell...valvebody/sep plate gasketry????
Post by: ZondaC12 on November 03, 2008, 09:46:50 PM
Yeah you're probably right, I have thought about that. Once the newness kinda wore off I've been letting off the gas just before it shifts, naturally that tones it down a little. And it's just about to come off the road for the winter, aaand I just don't put that many miles on the thing. I make plenty of extra unnecessary trips but all in all I don't drive that far. About 14k miles in 3 and change years. So maybe it will be alright.
Title: What the hell...valvebody/sep plate gasketry????
Post by: kwellst on November 03, 2008, 10:00:00 PM
are you running an AOD trans??
Title: What the hell...valvebody/sep plate gasketry????
Post by: ZondaC12 on November 03, 2008, 10:50:56 PM
Yes it's a 5.0 w/ an AOD.
Title: What the hell...valvebody/sep plate gasketry????
Post by: kwellst on November 03, 2008, 11:58:28 PM
best thing you could do is let off right before it shifts.  and stay away from the 2-3 shift at wot, you will snap input shafts even with a bone stock engine, using a harsh shift kit
Title: What the hell...valvebody/sep plate gasketry????
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on November 04, 2008, 07:39:22 AM
Quote from: kwellst;241565
best thing you could do is let off right before it shifts.  and stay away from the 2-3 shift at wot, you will snap input shafts even with a bone stock engine, using a harsh shift kit


Not if the input is replaced with a hardened shaft... Yes I broke my original first time at the track back in '00, no problem since...
Title: What the hell...valvebody/sep plate gasketry????
Post by: shame302 on November 04, 2008, 09:08:06 AM
i bet its a sh@ ton better than it was stock.
Title: What the hell...valvebody/sep plate gasketry????
Post by: ZondaC12 on November 04, 2008, 09:24:12 AM
Well that's the thing, even at 1/4 pedal at 15 mph, it doesnt shift, it kicks. The thing literally jumps forward a bit like I just got rear-ended by a car at least as big as mine.
 
2-3 is NOWHERE near what 1-2 is. At WOT it gets slowed down. If I let off before th 2-3, it goes in reeaaaal quick. No jump, but a definite "CLUNK!" Now, I drilled that hole to maximum as well so I'm kinda surprised at that. I'd think 3rd gear (whether its a clutch or band) is a little roached, but when I left off it packs much more of a punch. The instructions said to remove one of the rubber check balls for the "insanely hard" 2-3 shift that will cause brain damage.
 
So I've thought of doing that. But if that's a weak spot, then no go. I've got the timing down pat, hell the car sounds like I'm driving a stick since I let off for just the right amount of time for the 2-3 and then I'm back on it again. Hell I kinda like it. :D  For the street, by that time I'm already doing like 40 mph under spirited driving, so all I care about is that the 1-2 is mean as hell.
 
And now I'll just wait for kingcars to come along and remprimand me "just get a T5 ALREADY!!!!" :hick:
Title: What the hell...valvebody/sep plate gasketry????
Post by: daboss351 on November 04, 2008, 04:47:53 PM
Quote from: ZondaC12;238732
Welll......the thing put it in no uncertain terms so I worried...HONESTLY more for the driveshaft u-joints and rear end's sake than my own health (cmon I can heal the car cant). But my buddy got this MINT 81 camaro and the thing practically JUMPS every time it shifts I can't stand it that's what I want. That and feeling that kick will give me the comfort of knowing that it's shifting nice and quick even under load, minimizing the clutch and band wear. So I have to go back in and change it, just hope the gaskets will still hold up....


lol I went for a ride in a 79 chevy LUV my dads buddy has(well its one of his 23!!! luv trucks) has a 350, and turbo 400. he pulls to a light, light goes green, pedel to the FLOOR, ROASTS the big fat rear tires, hits second, keeps spinning, hits third and chirps them, 4th chirps them. Thing was insane!! I know what you mean about wanting a nice auto, but a shift kit just isnt gonna give you that haha
Title: What the hell...valvebody/sep plate gasketry????
Post by: ZondaC12 on November 04, 2008, 05:39:07 PM
Yeah I guess not. That's fine. Someday if I got money to burn I'll have one built up like crazy. No reservations about that, none of that can be seen so it doesn't ruin the car's originality in my view. As I said, I'm very happy that going into 2nd, on the right patch of pavement thats not too gritty, it barks em nice and it does it loud n proud!!!
 
23 LUV trucks. WOW haha. That's awesome, and that must have been a hell of a ride....