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Technical => Engine Swapping => Topic started by: fordman3 on March 08, 2005, 12:01:30 AM

Title: What about the original Cougar V8?
Post by: fordman3 on March 08, 2005, 12:01:30 AM
Hey all,
I noticed after reading lots of posts about engine swapping that nobody has ever mentioned dropping the original Cougar V8 in a Fox car, the 289.  I've always thought that would be a cool setup!  A K-code Fox Cougar, anybody?!  A 289 sits in exactly the same space as a 302, doesn't it?  I know the 289 is a "little" harder to find than a 302 of any flavor, and most are sitting in '65/'66 Mustangs and '67 Cougars (and some other '60's Fords).  It's just a combination that I've never seen.  If I ever got my hands on one, I'd sure put it in my '84 LS.  If we really want to get wild, what about a Boss 302 Fox car!?  What's everybody think?  Let me know!
Title: Re: What about the original Cougar V8?
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on March 08, 2005, 01:05:17 AM
The 289s are stout LITTLE engines, but IMHO thats the problem they are too small for a 3500lb car. Something on the order of the 351 is about the right size(again IMHO).

BTW I actually have a 289 from a '68 Cougar("C" code 2bbl). One of my freinds that does a lot of work on the early Stangs, has dibs on it.
Title: Re: What about the original Cougar V8?
Post by: SSX on March 08, 2005, 06:46:52 PM
There is a cat prowling these boards (or possibly CougarNuts) with a 289 in it.
Title: Re: What about the original Cougar V8?
Post by: SirChirpAlot on March 08, 2005, 09:58:01 PM
well finding a compleat 289 is alot harder then finding a 302
Title: Re: What about the original Cougar V8?
Post by: slamedcat on March 08, 2005, 10:28:20 PM
How about using the late model block "roller block" with the 289 guts, but boring it back out to a 302. High rpm engine now that would be cool.

Yes I know the 289 crack will not just drop in, because it is a 2 piece main where the roller block is a one piece.
Title: Re: What about the original Cougar V8?
Post by: SirChirpAlot on March 09, 2005, 01:58:47 AM
Bigger is better and leave it at that
Title: Re: What about the original Cougar V8?
Post by: jcassity on March 10, 2005, 08:14:50 PM
Quote from: SirChirpAlot
Bigger is better and leave it at that


yes,, size matters :rollin:

at least for now it does.,, im just sitting back waiting to pounce on the research ive done.
Title: Re: What about the original Cougar V8?
Post by: foxford on March 11, 2005, 12:50:01 AM
years ago, I had a '79 stang that I put a 289 in and it was the quickest car I'd been in at the time('90), of course, that was before I got the Torino or all the cars that followed. I think you'd be a lot happier just dropping a 351 in it.
Title: Re: What about the original Cougar V8?
Post by: SirChirpAlot on March 11, 2005, 12:14:36 PM
Mild 351 is the way to go if u want a quick car that is used a toy and daily driver.

Just a 351 with studs and good rod bolts a forged piston and a set of aftermarket heads would be very  easy to build and u could spray it 150 all day
Title: Re: What about the original Cougar V8?
Post by: BiscayAutomotive on April 01, 2005, 12:48:48 AM
Quote from: slamedcat
How about using the late model block "roller block" with the 289 guts, but boring it back out to a 302.


The 289 is the same bore as a 302, the stroke was the difference between them.  You can use a 289 block, crank and heads, then put the EFI lower intake and all the EFI stuff on it, then you have a fuel injected 289.  The heads will require a little work for the EGR, but I have seen it done.  Or just use the 289 lower, and bolt on a set of E7T Heads with alll the fuel injection.  You can also use the AOD behind it.  The balancing between the early model and late model 289/ 302's are different, but if you use a 351W flywheel, your balancing is fine.

I like the idea of the Boss 302, that would be cool, and definately different.
Title: Re: What about the original Cougar V8?
Post by: shame302 on April 01, 2005, 01:01:00 AM
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The 289s are stout LITTLE engines


whats stout?...lol, akay thats gettin a little old.

in all seriousness, i think a 289 would be regressing. dont they all use 2 peice rear main seals. i know it would be a different swap but with the availability of 302 why?

a 4 bolt boss 302 would be nice though
Title: Re: What about the original Cougar V8?
Post by: slamedcat on April 01, 2005, 01:07:36 AM
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The 289 is the same bore as a 302, the stroke was the difference between them.


That is what I was saying give it a small stroke and a large bore, that way it will run higher rpms.

You use the 289 crank in the 302 "roller block" and you have a "roller 289" now bore it back out to a 302.