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depends, how far did the other side push out?
In the words of Dr. McCoy....
"He's dead Jim..."
By the time you source another good quarter panel, fix it, etc you'd be much more ahead just finding another car with a decent body and swap your other parts.
X2.I bought my car complete and running for $350.00 and took all of the parts from my other car to upgrade and repair.To fix the other car I had would've far exceeded the value,and that's just bodywork,not the lights,etc.Grab another body in good shape,start swapping your parts.
Where's your sense of adventure Chuck
its not to bad on the other side. the other side can be saved the only resone i want to fix it is i just bought it and it has no rust on it at all
have a body shop quote it. Guarantee it will scare you.
My other car is a Merkur......
enough said
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When you drove it in the snow, how many tire tracks were following you?
i just dont want to let it go and i spent all the money i had on it so im think about fixing it. from the back of the doors and up is fine so i think its worth saving to me lol
get a stud welder, weld some studs on, and get a puller and a spoogealong, and start pulling. Someone did that on another form, worked decent. Your gonna have a hell of a time getting the trunk to close right
If it was mine, I would fix it. Only because i'm crazy like that.
Lets see a pic of the other side and a shot from the back looking down both sides.
jerry
stud welders are for cosmetics. that is more than cosmetic.
if the other side isnt too bad you are at least gonna hafta cut the d.side quarter off and fix the inner structure on this side....if the other side is swayed out, its gonna need a visit to the frame rack.
if you like body work, go for it. i would get another and move all the good parts over.
now that you say that the guy welded bolts to the panel, bolted a spoogealong to it connected it to a tree and pulled the out of it
bolts?--thats just crazy
wasn't there a quarter panel on ebay or somewhere recently?
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yea doesnt seem safe but it worked. He braced the car from the trees with 4x4's and cranked on the spoogealong. Get it all pulled out.
No
Way
In
HELL
is that fixable
I think you bent the frame dude.
I'm surprised the back window didn't blow out
thats why i have to fix it the thing saved my life. the pole was right next to a firehidron and and if is was just one foot closer to the door id be in the hostbile so i just cant junk it with out trying to save it.
can you do bodywork?
no i cant but i now how to weld i was 3rd in the state of michigan for mig welding in 07 of skill usa. i was thinking about takeing it to a shop or to my grandfathers house. i have seen a tc for sale by me that i could use for the parts.
well, first you need to have the frame pulled back.
Is you do all the prep work they need before, It'll save you a lot of $
you mainly need the drivers quarter and lid. and of course back lights.
They may want the drivers quarter taken off. and I would say the back glass.
if you have full quarters, you won't need to do body work.
jerry
how much do u think it would cost to have a shop do it?
few thousand is my guess. Thats alot of work...
i was think like 5g is what they are going to want but i have never had body work done befor so thats why im asking u guys
more then its worth
you could find another and swap parts for much cheaper....
Ultimately,it's up to you and your checkbook.Anything can be fixed if your pockets are deep enough.
ya i can get about 3g right now so i dont know lol
Get to the bodyshps and get some estimates.That's the only way to find out.Let us know what you find out.
Your estimate is pretty close, maybe a little low depending on the quality of work and where you live. To do it right, the shop will take the rear quarters from another car. That means from the rear of the doors to the brake lights. Then there are the subframes.
If you really want to keep it, your only hope of getting realisitically getting it fixed is to find somebody that will cut you a
lot of slack with the labor bill.
You should think seriously about finding another car, park them side by side then start swapping parts.
i think i found a tc by me to buy and use so i think that will cut down on the cost to some and i was going to tell them they could keep whats left of the doner car if they give me a big cut on the price lol
I hit a hydrant doing 50 or so... The door was better off the the hydrant...
If you're going to repair it, now would be good time to check with the local auto repair schools/colleges and volunteer your car for a class.
lol i did not even think of that. i dont know if i want a bunch of people that dont know much working on my car tho but it would be alot cheaper
1. get estimates
2. give it a couple of days
3. find another car
Awesome parts car now dude...
Mine was ALMOST!! that bad, frame wasn't bent , new quarter, bumper, taillights,all new paint--$2600.00. yours looks like it needs a little more work so it's not gonna be cheap!!
It's your car so you do whhat YOU feel is right.
If you decide to part it...let me know....I don't live very far from you.
good luck you are gonna need it. but let this stick in you head of why you shouldn't drive your pride in joy in the snow and ice. fix the one you've got or swap over the parts, but when you get done get a pos to dirve on snowy days. i think about the countless times i didn't go any where just to make sure da bird was safe.
THAT SUCKS, That looks pretty bad man, if you ever thought of doing a back halfed racecar, nows the time.
Find another nice body T-bird and swap everything out of it that sucks that was a clean nice T-Bird.
believe me i know its tough to let go. my wife washiznit in the tc back in july and i tried everything to save the car. and i work in an auto repair shop w/ access to the body shop next door. yes it can be fixed but if the frame is bent or tweaked the car will never be right. salvage what you can, save every part on that car that you can and start over.
i dont think its bent
it looks like its bent!! does the passenger side door open ok? is the car sitting perfect on all four wheels? look under it on the frame rails for an visible damage. Its your car, but its NOT gonna ever be the same cause thats a HARD hit, and you messed up a LARGE section of the car
Did you get pics of underneath?
Is the inside of your trunk crimpled anywhere?
you may be able to take some measurements under there also
may also be able to put a straight edge along the frame front to back to see if it is out
the pasenger side door opens up and closes fine. i look and did not see any thing rong with fram
well...that WAS one of my favorite cars on here. i cant belive you wrecket it. thats a wrightoff man. i would be looking for another clean body.
under it. it just pushed in to the exhaust and in the the tank just a bit.
i got pics of the trunk and puting them on next post
cool, lets see
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im thinking thing about parting it out i just dont have the room to do it so i need to sell the hole car
how much? feel free to pm me ;)
right now i might be geting it fixed. a guy me and my dad work with has a bodyshop on the side and said he might be able to do it so it will be cheaper than anyone els and i will be able to help with it and learn how to do it and drop the cost doing some of the work my self. i can do all the welding that it needs so that will drop the cost a lot. and him being a friend will let me help with it.
cool dude good luck. i hope you pull it off.
Give us some pics while your repairing it
I liked seeing that car myself as well. I can totally understand the sentimental value. The only thing that would keep me from not selling it is if the frame was bent. Hope all goes well.
+1
Now, if you're not in a hurry to get it back on the road, would be the time for a subframe-up rebuild (like
Overhaulin' but not
Pimp My Ride)
Fully weld those seams, SFCs, remove all rust, soundproofing, etc etc.
I *hate* computers correcting my "mistakes." That's "I R S", not "Irs".
Sorry man but that frame is bent bad.
Look at the rear cross brace in your picture.
That brace is for structural support and it's bent pretty good.
Also your trunk shifted because the framework that holds the supports is bent to hell.
The creasing on the pass 1/4 also confirms that the whole rear end of the car is shifted over a few inches.
Like said a few previous posts ago(anything is fixable depending on how deep your pockets are)but you can pick up another car in nice shape with low miles for what it would cost to fix that.
My condolences on your ride, may she R.I.P..
that whole axle has to be shifted over to the pass side some. and you know whats attached to the axle.
theres just so much darn interior bends to be taken care of first before you could even start to place donor exterior skin on. man thats a hard one but its your choice.
I vote common sense and carry a ton of her parts over to another car, perhaps even the motor.
If you carry over a ton of parts including the tranny and motor, then she never died, just got a nice make over. The heartbeat of your car is the pieces parts inside and and under the hood. Give her a face lift on another car with a blown motor / tranny.
that way your not losing your baby.