Just got a call from my dad saying that my mother is taking him back to court because of owed child support, which I can understand. This is the part that directly effects me, and I need info on.
He has no means to pay her, so he's thinking if the court breaths down his neck to pay, he's gonna have to sell my mustang... My thought is what if he signs over the car as portion of the payment. Does anyone know if this would work? Or would they give diddly shiznit for the car. I swear if he has to sell the car for her, I'll disown her. That car means more to me then anything in the world.
Any input would be greatly appreciated. I don't wanna lose that car, and i know my dads gonna try to not have to sell if, but I'm not crossing my fingers.
1. Talk to your Mom, tell her your concerns about the car. Same goes with Dad.
2. Have it appraised, it is a classic Mustang and should hold some value.
3. Have Dad give it to Mom towards amount, make agreement where you get/buy it.
Child support sucks!
Yea Im gonna talk to her when she gets home, dad already knows thats last resort is to sell it, cause he knows how much it means to me.
I've been though the same thing when i was young.
grew up very poor also.
you won't see it now. but in 20 years you'll realize that material things aren't going to pay the bills or put food on the table.
family should come first. you shouldn't be mad at anyone thats trying to take care of you.
just my 2 cents
If I was in your dads position I would sell anything I had to make sure my kids didn't grow up the way I did
my mom makes good money, and has had no problem paying for everything, and then some(brand new car, plus the cobra). Itrs my dad thats struggling.
Just talked to her, she refuses to take the car as payment cause she says the car has been mine for years, as true as that may be, its not in my name. Ugh if i lose that car, i lose the last of the memories before my parents divorced. The sentimental value that car has to me is tremendous. Just the thought of it going, makes me literally sick to my stomach.
they will most likely garnish his wages or freeze his "known" accounts. my dad's going through the same thing, but you know what? he never paid his child support, and i dont feel too sorry for him.
Put the car in your name
Im thinking about having him sign it over, that way i know it goes no where
if he gives you the car, she can sign off on whatever amount she wants $1 $1000 whatever. if she cooperates, at least in michigan if she doesnt then i can get really bad
your dads situation is piviatal here because if he has no employment, there is nothing at this moment to garnish. Then its likely jail time which makes matters even more stupid.
Your dad "not having the means to pay her" sounds like you are saying he has no income. Does this mean "at the moment" or "he's laid off" or "he's in between jobs". whats the scoop on dads work?
Some dads lay low for child support reasons because the court will garnish wages to an extreem level. My friend not only had his income garnished in the state of VA but also his perdium which is illegal. This forced him to lose his job because his hourly rate of 18/hr and perdium of 12/hr was both garnished. All the court saw was 30/hr income so 15 of that went to child support.
From a statement you made,, it sounds like mom is pushing buttons finally for matters of prinl and the extra income might help her do a little exta around the house. If thats the case,, its pretty ugly imho but i dont know the full deal on what mom has put up with nor should you share it. I just thought id share that wth you because from the outside looking in,,, you said mom makes " good money".
Im about to share with you something you will never forget,,,,,,,,,"ITS CHEAPER TO KEEP EM"
My moms a nurse so she makes good money, she does these side jobs where she pulls in on average 600 for one night. My father is a boilermaker and is in between jobs right now, and is living on unemployment....
Shes sick of him only sending amounts when he can, she said something were shed rather if he send amounts all the time of some , she just is done waiting i guess. I dont know, I just dont want to ahve a bad outcome....
Not that I’m familiar w/your or your family’s situation but my guess is your living w/your mom but very friendly w/your father. You’re going to have to sit down w/your mom and tell her she’s personally hurting you w/this.
In your dads defense in court you can always state that your dad bought you the mustang though it’s in his name cause of your age you and him spend father/son time working on it and one day he was going to pass it on to you. My mom taking this not only disrupts me and my father’s relationship but my moms taking this for her own personal gain. Don’t forget saying this in an official court is not healable it will put a lot of tension between you and you mom, so I recommend talking to her first.
Last thing your mom and dad have serious issues w/each other using you as a tool, take in account your dad could be telling you this to side w/him.
hate to say it but that was my first thought.
Worse than that, my experience from my divorce 4 years ago here in Washington State (laws are different in different states) is the
JUDGE will look at it like that also. The general rule here is this is between the mother and father, the children should know NOTHING about it! I brought my 17 year old son to one court date with me (I had custody and had just had to pick him up after school as he got sick on the day of court) and him simply sitting out in the hall (I wouldn't let him come in , my attourny recommended against it) and HER attourny told the judge he was out there and the judge just reamed my ass for involving the children.
Sorry Mason, I'm sure you dident want to hear this view. I know ya love your dad and it's a shame you have to be brought into this But something else to think about. My kids were 15 and 17, The Judge gave total dicesion making to them WHO they wanted to live with. They were old enough themselves to decide. If they are in court already, it may be a good time to decide you want to go live with dad... then while your all already there, the judge could set what your mother will be paying him for child support.
Not sure it would work there in your state. But that would have been the case here in Washington.
the EX paid me $25. a month Child Support.
had they gone with her
I would have been paying her $750. a month.
I refused to start my life over again, untill i have to. What he doesnt seem to get is no matter what he trys, I'm not moving with him till im done with highschool because wyotech is 30 mins from his house. I wont get involved, like I'm sure he would like, cause my mom only told me shes taking him to court. I WILL NOT choose sides, BUT if I lose MY car as a result of something they battle, I will NOT be on good terms with either of them. As selfish as that may sound, I mean I know its just a car, but the value of that car to me, is much less then anyone else. Wish my father would get that no matter what he says, I will not think less of my mother. There problems have effected me enough as it is, so I would rather not be in the middle of creating more!
maybe if your mom is so hard up for cash, she could sell her $30,000 dollar sports car...
Not trying to be a dick, but when my mom and dad got divorced, my dad got custody and he had to pay back my mom for money that was given to him by our family for the 2 months that she had custody before my dad got us. The guy she married makes almost $200,000 a year where my dad made less then $30,000 and he had to pay her something in the neighborhood of $5000 for the two month we lived with her. My dad also had a $1997 a month mortgage and custody of 6 kids under the age of 18.
Courts are ridiculously one sided.
Well he has been to court, and has to pay 4 payments of 2750 in owed child support...... Hes working but not fast enough to pay his bills and her..... He called to tell me today that the stang might be going down the road, and I about broke down, if it comes to it, I will move away from my mother, my g/f, all my friends, everything so I do not lose that car.... I cant imagine anyone else driving my baby, id go insane. I am THAT attached to that god car. Might be a pile of steel, but its irreplaceable! theres no other 66 that I could sit in, and feel the way that one makes me feel. ****ing stupid court system, I swear to GOD, I lose this car, someones gonna pay, and they are NOT going to like it..... I told him Ill give him every cent, sell everything I own to be able to keep it.. Time to FLIP on my mother tomorrow....
, that sucks. My parents divorced when I was 4 (actually my "biological father" as I refer to him took off, but truth be told, he was a violent SOB and I'm glad I never saw him again). Mom decided that we were better off without him and she was much more worried that he might try to kidnap me or something than what money she might be able to get from him. We moved up to NYC with her parents until she could get back on her feet. In the end it all worked out...she married a GREAT guy when I was seven, and I wouldn't be where I am now (education, skills, environment, the works) otherwise. I thank God she found him rather than some other loser. In the end he legally adopted me so I have his last name and I'm grateful. In a very real sense I've had two (nearly) completely separate lives -- before I was 7 and after. I have no regrets. I call my stepdad "Dad", because that's what he is IMHO. Does he have some character flaws? Yes, but everyone does. I know him well enough that I can manage it pretty well.
I'm not saying that ANY of this applies to you, because it doesn't. Your situation is totally different. What I AM saying is that life goes on, and sometimes things can change in (REALLY!) profound ways that you never expect. Do I have some emotional baggage? Of course, but a lot of time has passed (I'm 38 now) and I've made my peace with it. It will get better for you, but it can take time for perspective to form.
Yea all this has changed my look on alot of things
but if that car, which has been promised to me since i was 4, is sold because of what my mother is doing, Im gonna go ballistic!!
sounds to me that no matter what the situation is with you and the stang, your mother has taken this to a level she feels happy with.
I can only suspect the blood between her and your dad is so bad that she may actually enjoy seeing him go down in flames. Next step for her is to try and work out this with you. She will pin the blame on dad im sure because she knows you are her son and she needs to make sure you are not going to hate her for this.
Nontheless, I dont know either of them or the terms that brought you to this point.
All i know is what you have said, and from what you say, your mom had it within her power and purse to prevent this small part.
Your dad knows he is screwed and its likely it will take years far beyond your 30th birthday for him to get past this. With no money now and steady eimployment in the future pending,, its a likely senerio.
Do you have enough money for a tow truck? do you have any means to get it put in storage?
entertaining any of the two above questions could only lead to more problems in the future. Rest assure, The stang wont bring that much money being as people are already strapped for cash.
Makes me sad to see that (and God knows I've seen it enough times from people I've encountered over the years). This is strictly my opinion, and I hope I'm not stepping over the line here, but anyhow sometimes when a relationship goes sour it's better to just let go. Nursing the hard feelings, the bitterness, hate, whatever, just poisons your soul in the end. It can be hard to walk away from that, I've seen it so many times, some people have to be "right" no matter the cost, but sometimes you just have to say to yourself, "fine, I'm right, now walk away already!" Now, this is easy for me to say, having never been married, but I've seen too many people ruin their emotional health, live miserable lives, over something that was years in the past. Life is too short for that stuff. Maybe it's only because I've reached middle-age that it's so clear now, but it seems pretty darned obvious to me at this point.
I skipped some so sorry if this was said but
Females have the upper hand in the courts system. PERIOD! your Dad will get screwed if she wants him to and he cant do shiznit about it. It sucks for you man and sorry you have to deal with their problems. everything will work out in the end, maybe 10-15 years but it will all be good.
Life is short. Dont hold grudes toward those who are close to you. If something were to ever happen you will hate yourself more than you could have ever hated them.
well I talked to my mom. She always says he doesnt do enough, and says that its BS if he has to sell the car since its been promised to me for so long. She actually gave me permission to have it up here at my house, if i can get him to give me it... seeing as my b day is in 8 days, might just be able to!!
I just read this thread for the first time. DaBoss, I feel for ya. My father left my mom and me when I was 3. Not one penny was given for child support. That was 35 years ago. Fast forward to 5 years ago, when he promised me his '72 HD Sportster for my inheritance which he sold 3 years ago. I had a situation with my ex-girlfriend who left me in the middle of the night, never to be seen again. 1 year later the State of MN serves me papers for child support due. Not wanting to be like my father, I went to court, did my due process, and ended up paying an X amount each month. Later I find out she was using my social security number in Colorado (found out when applying for my mortgage, credit report) I disputed it, but not much can be done there. I later get a letter from the state saying she left the country, and that my child support is no longer due. I have moved on without remorse. I don't hate my father, and I don't hate my duaghter, wherever she is. Can't say as much about her mother. Moral of the story is all things will pass, and you'll be given the chance to move on yourself.
One thought: if the car is in YOUR name, then how can anyone take it from YOU?
its in his dad's name. Tell your dad to sign it over. If you go live with your dad then you cause more problems then solving things.
I think I am gonna just flat out say
Listen, this car means so much to me, and it has been promised to me for so long that selling it is not an option..
You're mother needs a serious talkin to from you. Your parents have to understand that this isnt about themselves, its about u. ask urself if this could be some childish revenge on their part? I dont mean to be mean, its just what i think.
I think if both parties are in agreement to use the car as a down payment or something,(it sounds like u have to convince ur father still) then the courts should allow it, get the car in ur name therefore the money that it is worth goes directly to u and explain that to both of them. i am sorry u are going through this
I can understand the love of a car, I can also understand the pain that sometimes comes from family.
There's an old expression I've learned to live by... and that is Pick your battles...
On the level of the Stang, well cars are freedom... I personally would strive to get the car in my name ASAP; and perhaps instead of walking away, DRIVE away. I don't know the particulars, but hey man, life is full of hard choices... as I said, "Pick your battles..."
Best of luck and good skills to your sir.
My thoughts are with you, as I am sure all of our thoughts as well.
Regards,
Kevin