General => Lounge => Topic started by: P71 on January 09, 2008, 12:38:20 AM
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: P71 on January 09, 2008, 12:38:20 AM
FTCF Military Members:
Air Force - 3 Army - 5 Coast Guard - 1 Marines - 1 Navy - 4
Original post:
I know quite a few of us are retired (myself, Vinnie, and very recently Atariman?) and some are still active. How many of you are/were in the military, be it US or otherwise? What branch? Where were you stationed? I keep running into military people and it's got my curiosity to see how many of you were/are too?
Me: U.S. Coast Guard (Active Duty)
Basic - Cape May, NJ Aug-Oct 03
(The following was while attached to the USCGC Sea Lion) Pre-Commissioning Crew - Lockport, LA Oct 03 Training Group New Orleans - New Orleans, LA Nov 03 Sea Trials - Key West, FL Nov 03 Central America Tour - Nov-Dec 03 West Coast Tour - Jan 04 Regular Patrol Duty - Bellingham, WA Feb 04-Dec 04 (my injury was in Dec)
I was then placed on Medical and spent some time in the hospitals and at home until May 05, all while still administratively assigned to the Sea Lion. (No hard feelings, it was an accident and not the instructor's fault)
USCG Station Bellingham - May 05-July 06
Thus ended my exactly 3-year tour, Honorably Discharged (I would have re-upped if they didn't medically retire me).
I was a Fireman/Machinery Technician (made it up to E3 right out of Basic thanks to CAP/college, was on the E4 promotion list when injured, they take you off and hold your rank, which sucked).
My favorite awards are the Order of the Ditch (for sailing the Panama Cbuttstuff) and the Plankowner's Certificate for being a Commissioning crew.
So, where did you guys go? Would you do it again? How many wish they were still in? I'd say maybe 50-60% of my high school joined the military (most went Army or Marines, not a real big education state that Florida).
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: ~AC on January 09, 2008, 12:49:51 AM
im not in the military, i was turned down b/c of my medical issues, basically i'd be too gung ho to enlist so to speak... tried every branch, but nothing. :( but i support the troops, and i dont just say that to be saying it! i give every one of them i see the up most respect. my cousin benny was training for special ops (i dunno what regiment etc he was in, he was stationed for training in Colorado) but while parachuting out of a helicopter his foot got caught in a net with the chute open so guess what happend to his ankle/leg. so he was discharged i believe.
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: V8Demon on January 09, 2008, 01:30:13 AM
USAF -- 10 years total 4 active duty, 6 NYS Air National guard.
Active duty station: Mcguire AFB, NJ Guard Station: Gabreski ANG station, Westhampton NY
ETS was July 17, 2006.
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: Carl on January 09, 2008, 02:48:19 AM
USAF Active
Stationed at Keesler AFB, MS Moody AFB, GA and now USAF Academy, CO.
Been in 3.5 years
Outstanding Unit Award, National Defense Service Medal, Global War on Terrorism Service Medal, Air Force Training Ribbon
not much... lol
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: jcassity on January 09, 2008, 03:27:48 AM
You did not retire. Hope you dont take the wrong but when you say you retired,, and did not,, that takes something away from those who really did. No one gets "medically retired" and if you did,,show proof cause ive never heard about it in my 15 years of service which ended in 01. Just the bottom right hand corner of your dd214 will do sir.
The national defense metal has nothing to do with busting a russian ship for what ever. Its a "gimmie" medal for the nations troops being in harms way even if your not there and its worth about 2 points for test purposes. I have three of them and was there on all three instances.
SAR was also one of my many NEC's., sill have the orange pocket knife to prove it,,lol.
Nonetheless, your pointing out of specific duty stations and thier mission(s) is not in good stewardship of the on going fight we have at hand and i find in difficult to not tell you ,, so i will,,,,,,,, Take down the ships name(s) and what your missions were. It could have a cause and effect or one of those "unknown Knowns" if your intel is up to snuff. Google is good at finding posts like this when people plan things.
Your whole level of detail is a security risk for ships company tonight on board the boat,, you could be a little more general.
myself..........
US NAVY 1986-2001 Aviation Electroics several carriers, attached to AIMD and MARDET as well as SEAOPDET Short stent on s duty at NAS Oceana and NAS Norfolk Three Med Cruises Two North Atlantic Cruises Two Carribian Cruises
Ive worked the flight deck, ran a shops, worked qa, ect ect.
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: Blackout on January 09, 2008, 06:27:03 AM
US Army, 10 years as of feb 2007. I'm now in the IRR for about another year (2 Total)
Basic was in Ft Benning GA, First MOS was a 92A Automated Logistical Specialist.
I re-classed to Infantry (11B) and did a tour in Iraq from 04-late 95
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: Dogcharmer on January 09, 2008, 06:33:49 AM
USAF active for 10 years from 87 to 97
Minot AFB, ND: AGE Mech RAF Greenham Common, England: Ground Launched Cruise Missiles (BGM109 W84 Nuclear Warheads helped end the cold war) Robbins AFB, GA: AGE Mech McChord AFB, WA: C141B Flight Engineer was my last assignment.
The flight engineer job was the best job I've ever had to this day!
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: *MAYHEM* on January 09, 2008, 07:34:08 AM
US Navy 1981-84
Air Crew Photographer's Mate
Boot Camp in Orlando FL Air Crew and Photomate School in Pensacola FL Duty Station USS Nimitz CVN-68 Medical Discarge (Ulcers and hearing loss)
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: P71 on January 09, 2008, 10:15:22 AM
Quote from: jcassity;196631
You did not retire. Hope you dont take the wrong but when you say you retired,, and did not,, that takes something away from those who really did. No one gets "medically retired" and if you did,,show proof cause ive never heard about it in my 15 years of service which ended in 01. Just the bottom right hand corner of your dd214 will do sir.
The national defense metal has nothing to do with busting a russian ship for what ever. Its a "gimmie" medal for the nations troops being in harms way even if your not there and its worth about 2 points for test purposes. I have three of them and was there on all three instances.
SAR was also one of my many NEC's., sill have the orange pocket knife to prove it,,lol.
Nonetheless, your pointing out of specific duty stations and thier mission(s) is not in good stewardship of the on going fight we have at hand and i find in difficult to not tell you ,, so i will,,,,,,,, Take down the ships name(s) and what your missions were. It could have a cause and effect or one of those "unknown Knowns" if your intel is up to snuff. Google is good at finding posts like this when people plan things.
Your whole level of detail is a security risk for ships company tonight on board the boat,, you could be a little more general.
myself..........
US NAVY 1986-2001 Aviation Electroics several carriers, attached to AIMD and MARDET as well as SEAOPDET Short stent on s duty at NAS Oceana and NAS Norfolk Three Med Cruises Two North Atlantic Cruises Two Carribian Cruises
Ive worked the flight deck, ran a shops, worked qa, ect ect.
It's called "medically retired", and yes, I did. I'm 40% disabled and I'd appreciate it if you didn't act all high-and-mighty about it because it sure as hell wasn't by choice.
DD214: Block 23 - Type of Separation: Retirement Block 24 - Character of Service: Honorable Block 26 - Separation Code: SFJ Block 28 - Narrative: Disability, Permanent
The National Defense Medal is not a "gimee" to the Coast Guard, we don't get deployed unless volunteered, so we actually have to "do" something about it (granted, not much, but we do have to do something outside of our basic SAR/LE/Fisheries mission). The bust just happened to be what they decided we earned it for.
Everything I listed is unclassified and freely found not only on the web, but on the Coast Guard's own website. I will take down the specifics of the missions though, because as you said, even if it's out there we shouldn't "hand" it to them.
Attached is a picture of my DD214, I will take it down once you've seen it, even though it's only the corner.
*Taken Down*
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: Carl on January 09, 2008, 11:15:47 AM
Quote from: jcassity;196631
You did not retire. Hope you dont take the wrong but when you say you retired,, and did not,, that takes something away from those who really did. No one gets "medically retired" and if you did,,show proof cause ive never heard about it in my 15 years of service which ended in 01. Just the bottom right hand corner of your dd214 will do sir.
The national defense metal has nothing to do with busting a russian ship for what ever. Its a "gimmie" medal for the nations troops being in harms way even if your not there and its worth about 2 points for test purposes. I have three of them and was there on all three instances.
SAR was also one of my many NEC's., sill have the orange pocket knife to prove it,,lol.
Nonetheless, your pointing out of specific duty stations and thier mission(s) is not in good stewardship of the on going fight we have at hand and i find in difficult to not tell you ,, so i will,,,,,,,, Take down the ships name(s) and what your missions were. It could have a cause and effect or one of those "unknown Knowns" if your intel is up to snuff. Google is good at finding posts like this when people plan things.
Your whole level of detail is a security risk for ships company tonight on board the boat,, you could be a little more general.
myself..........
US NAVY 1986-2001 Aviation Electroics several carriers, attached to AIMD and MARDET as well as SEAOPDET Short stent on s duty at NAS Oceana and NAS Norfolk Three Med Cruises Two North Atlantic Cruises Two Carribian Cruises
Ive worked the flight deck, ran a shops, worked qa, ect ect.
Excuse me!?
I am going to have to come to Aerobirds Defense here. I worked Retirements specifically for a while and know for a fact you CAN get medically retired as well as medically dishcharged. Where do you get off that saying he is medically retired takes away from your retired status!? I am sure he did not have a choice in the matter. The National Defense Service Medal is just that. A (SERVICE) Medal meaning you Served at a time when National Defense was at stake. Not saying I busted any sub or anything just saying what I got..
You talk about him stating his service locations being a risk but then request he posts his 214 on a public website? I don't understand what made you so upset man...
Sheesh....
I edited this a little because I freaked out more than I probably should have lol...
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: tbirdsps on January 09, 2008, 11:19:17 AM
US Navy from 1972 to 1998. Lots of places: Moffett Field, Ca. Cecil Field, Fl. Lemoore, Ca. Atsugi puppiesan, China Lake, Ca.
And it's nice being a civilian again. 10 years and counting.:D
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: tbirdsps on January 09, 2008, 11:30:28 AM
Quote from: jcassity;196631
You did not retire. Hope you dont take the wrong but when you say you retired,, and did not,, that takes something away from those who really did. No one gets "medically retired" and if you did,,show proof cause ive never heard about it in my 15 years of service which ended in 01. Just the bottom right hand corner of your dd214 will do sir.
The national defense metal has nothing to do with busting a russian ship for what ever. Its a "gimmie" medal for the nations troops being in harms way even if your not there and its worth about 2 points for test purposes. I have three of them and was there on all three instances.
SAR was also one of my many NEC's., sill have the orange pocket knife to prove it,,lol.
Nonetheless, your pointing out of specific duty stations and thier mission(s) is not in good stewardship of the on going fight we have at hand and i find in difficult to not tell you ,, so i will,,,,,,,, Take down the ships name(s) and what your missions were. It could have a cause and effect or one of those "unknown Knowns" if your intel is up to snuff. Google is good at finding posts like this when people plan things.
Your whole level of detail is a security risk for ships company tonight on board the boat,, you could be a little more general.
myself..........
US NAVY 1986-2001 Aviation Electroics several carriers, attached to AIMD and MARDET as well as SEAOPDET Short stent on s duty at NAS Oceana and NAS Norfolk Three Med Cruises Two North Atlantic Cruises Two Carribian Cruises
Ive worked the flight deck, ran a shops, worked qa, ect ect.
You'll get some arguments about "medically retired" from a few thousand vets from the last 5 years especially. You left the service after 15 years. Are you retired in any way? You didn't say.
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: P71 on January 09, 2008, 11:33:02 AM
Edited
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: JeremyB on January 09, 2008, 12:35:38 PM
Quote from: Carl;196686
I worked Retirements specifically for a while and know
Can you explain to us what is required to be medically retired versus a medical discharge or severance?
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: baxo on January 09, 2008, 01:57:44 PM
Guys, let's just stick the point, and that is he served, now let's hear from others who have too. No use bickering about miscellaneous things and getting the thread out of hand. Michael, perhaps you can keep a running total of how many of us have in the first thread.
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: Kitz Kat on January 09, 2008, 03:51:55 PM
76-80 THE ship Numnutz,Flight deck, ABH.I sort of miss it.
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: Carl on January 09, 2008, 06:33:45 PM
Quote from: JeremyB;196714
Can you explain to us what is required to be medically retired versus a medical discharge or severance?
http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/shared/media/epubs/AFI36-3212.pdf (this is publicly available info as it is a site open to the public. Don't worry about some kind of terrorist gaining anything from this or some other intelligence worries..)
There you go, have a read.
It is so expansive it's almost impossible to explain every case.
Each case is looked through and determined but it boils down to these questions...
Is the disability a result of Service?
Was it something that the member had before joining that got worse with service?
Does the member have the option of continued service?
If it is something that will continue to get worse as the years pass and was caused by duty then it's could very well turn into a retirement.
If it is a wound or condition that is not deemed to progressively get worse then its probably going to be a discharge. Unless its combat related that can get expansive.
But this is decided by a panel of people who ultimately tell the member what the decision is and why they made it.
Most times a discharged member who gets a lump sum (Severance Pay) can go to the local VA Center and end up getting support from them as well. This is ranked on a percentage scale depending on the severity of the illness or injury.
I hope I covered that enough but if you have any questions let me know.
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: slicksport88 on January 09, 2008, 06:34:07 PM
US Army 1995 - 2007 Ft. Jackson, SC (Basic) Ft. Knox, KY (Ait) Ft. Benning, GA (Jump School) Ft. Bragg, NC (Airborne mechanic - Sheridan tank :headbang: ) Camp Garry Owen, Korea ( M1 Abrams Mechanic) Ft. Carson, CO (M1 Abrams Mechanic) Ft. Hood, TX (Maintenance Team Chief) Kuwait two times (Operation Enduring Freedom) Operation Iraqi Freedom 2 and 4
yeah i've been around a little...no?
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: P71 on January 09, 2008, 06:42:32 PM
Quote from: JeremyB;196714
Can you explain to us what is required to be medically retired versus a medical discharge or severance?
Easy.
Medical Discharge - The government no longer requires your service, and you are free to go, you get no money and no benefits. Used for things like pregnancies. Just like a regular discharge, just for medical reasons. Chronically sea-sick guys get these from the Coast Guard and Navy all of the time. No benefits, same as a general/UHC/honorable discharge.
Severance - Next step up, now it's you're being discharged and get 10% of a year's pay to offset some costs. Used for temporary injury (fell off of a ladder, broke some things, they'll heal you up and let you go). No benefits, same as a general/UHC/honorable discharge.
Medically Retired - Highest level, this is for PERMANENT injuries only. Guys that take IED explosions or shrapnel, amputees, any other permanent injury. You get full health benefits for life. Also a certain percentage of your pay based on your disability (the #'s do not co-inside, so 40% disabled does not equal 40% pay).
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: P71 on January 09, 2008, 06:44:09 PM
slicksport, I owe you a beer!
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: Carl on January 09, 2008, 06:57:39 PM
Quote from: Aerobird Motorsports;196765
Easy.
Medical Discharge - The government no longer requires your service, and you are free to go, you get no money and no benefits. Used for things like pregnancies. Just like a regular discharge, just for medical reasons. Chronically sea-sick guys get these from the Coast Guard and Navy all of the time. No benefits, same as a general/UHC/honorable discharge.
Severance - Next step up, now it's you're being discharged and get 10% of a year's pay to offset some costs. Used for temporary injury (fell off of a ladder, broke some things, they'll heal you up and let you go). No benefits, same as a general/UHC/honorable discharge.
Medically Retired - Highest level, this is for PERMANENT injuries only. Guys that take IED explosions or shrapnel, amputees, any other permanent injury. You get full health benefits for life. Also a certain percentage of your pay based on your disability (the #'s do not co-inside, so 40% disabled does not equal 40% pay).
Exactly. Although with pregnancy the member has the option of being released into and inactive status or discharged entirely. If they are released it's easier to get back in later if they chose to do so.
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: slicksport88 on January 09, 2008, 07:20:48 PM
Quote from: Aerobird Motorsports;196767
slicksport, I owe you a beer!
And I gladly accept that beer. Samuel Adams if you don't mind. Next round is on me.
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: Carl on January 09, 2008, 07:29:18 PM
Quote from: slicksport88;196784
And I gladly accept that beer. Samuel Adams if you don't mind. Next round is on me.
Make it a Samuel Jackson. :hick:
lol! MMMMM MMMM !
A SHARK ATE ME!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXIB7y8_rbU
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: P71 on January 09, 2008, 08:02:02 PM
If you ever make it to the WA/OR area, done deal (or if I go to Texas).
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: HAVI on January 09, 2008, 09:28:00 PM
D co. 3/327th 101st Airborne (Air Assault)
11H E9
1989-1991
Operation Desert Shield/Storm
Nothing Follows (lol)
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: jcassity on January 10, 2008, 01:10:33 AM
Aerobird,, go back and read,, bottom right hand corner will do sir. (attention to detail,,:D ) No, your wrong and inexperienced. The Nat'l defense would would have been bestowed on you no matter what. Your command just wanted to make it look like they were giving you something. EVERYONE in bootcamp on up serving would have gotten the nat'l defence and they did. My opening statement said "dont take this wrong" but i guess you did. I work in Bellingham all the time,, got any beer?
Carl , go back and read. (attention to detail,,:D ) I did not say i was retired I did not ask anyone to post thier dd214
tbirdsps No im not retired and yes i was in iraq again working with the very people you mention and going out on route clearance missions with them in the buffalo, rg31, MeerKat, Cougar and Huskey. I know all about IED's up close and personal including getting blown up.
and in close,, i wasnt busting on anyone.
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: CougarSE on January 10, 2008, 01:22:11 AM
Here we have a typical FTBCF thread as of late. Someone starts a random thread (while causing problems in other parts of the forum) and someone else comes and shiznits on it.
Screw you both.
Take a chill pill and quit fighting each other. I couldn't care less how ABM got discharged or retired or what the fvck ever and I bet no one else here does either. Talk about it again and I'm sure this thread will be locked just as quick as ABM's hating threads.
Do either one of you remember how it was a year ago here? Two years ago? How none of you jumped down each others throats? I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that its not an option that you do. Remember it and start acting that way again.
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: Blackout on January 10, 2008, 01:57:06 AM
I seem to remember passing along route Cougar at some point when i was over there.We were based at a patrol base in Samarra, but we were passed out like playing cards by the 3rd ID.
LOL it wasnt too fun. "Why are we driving to Baghdad/Tikrit/Falluja/ect ect ect this time?"
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: LittleAngel1198 on January 10, 2008, 07:00:50 AM
Quote from: slicksport88;196762
US Army 1995 - 2007 Ft. Jackson, SC (Basic) Ft. Knox, KY (Ait) Ft. Benning, GA (Jump School) Ft. Bragg, NC (Airborne mechanic - Sheridan tank :headbang: ) Camp Garry Owen, Korea ( M1 Abrams Mechanic) Ft. Carson, CO (M1 Abrams Mechanic) Ft. Hood, TX (Maintenance Team Chief) Kuwait two times (Operation Enduring Freedom) Operation Iraqi Freedom 2 and 4
yeah i've been around a little...no?
Hmm, what year(s) were you at Carson? My ex was stationed there (for what little time he served :rolleyes: ) in 94/95.
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: slicksport88 on January 10, 2008, 07:22:18 AM
Quote from: Birdman;196852
I seem to remember passing along route Cougar at some point when i was over there.We were based at a patrol base in Samarra, but we were passed out like playing cards by the 3rd ID.
LOL it wasnt too fun. "Why are we driving to Baghdad/Tikrit/Falluja/ect ect ect this time?"
Hey Birdman, you were pretty close to me then in 2006-2007. I was based out of FOB Brassfield-Mora. I was with 3-8 CAV who at the time was attached to the 82nd airborne guys.
Quote from: LittleAngel1198;196860
Hmm, what year(s) were you at Carson? My ex was stationed there (for what little time he served :rolleyes: ) in 94/95.
I was stationed there from June 1998 to September 1999.
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: LittleAngel1198 on January 10, 2008, 07:23:54 AM
Ahh ok, he was living in the Springs then..... I think anyway, I didn't keep track of him.... just know from his sister.
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: P71 on January 10, 2008, 10:00:47 AM
Quote from: jcassity;196842
Aerobird,, go back and read,, bottom right hand corner will do sir. (attention to detail,,:D )
The only part missing from the photo I posted is reentry code, which is RE2. The blocks saying "Retirement" weren't enough for you?
Quote from: jcassity;196842
No, your wrong and inexperienced. The Nat'l defense would would have been bestowed on you no matter what. Your command just wanted to make it look like they were giving you something. EVERYONE in bootcamp on up serving would have gotten the nat'l defence and they did.
Again, the Coast Guard is not the Army/Navy/Air Force. We have to go overseas, partite in a mission beyond standard scope, or directly support one of the theaters (such as the 110' Cutters patrolling the Gulf right now in support of Iraqi Freedom) to get that. Working a buoy tender on the Great Lakes will not cut it.
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: tc² on January 10, 2008, 10:03:09 AM
Aerobird, I don't know why you were discharged, or why JCass thinks you're less honorable than someone else, but I do know that you've done more for this country than I ever will, and for that I thank you. That goes the same for all the other vets here on the forums.
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Post by: P71 on January 10, 2008, 10:10:26 AM
tc2, That is the nicest thing ever said to me. Thank you.
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: jcassity on January 10, 2008, 11:37:44 AM
I was standing down on this per CougarSE's logical wisdom which i agreed with until i checked my pm and got confussed .
Then all of a sudden, i get spanked for no reason. Heck,, I can think of many instances ive been insulted and i just handled it off line. Who ever sent me that pm should be man or woman enough to clairfy it since the pm's are forum property. If you want to break my legs, be on the up and up and say who you are. Silly people.....lol.
I was very surprised that my two posts could have been skewed this much. I did not insult anyone, everyone who served has my respect. No matter the 5 w's, all of us who served could have lost thier life.
My only reason for the two posts were to keep the misinformation or ambiguity down.
In return, folks pointed out i said things i did not.,,,,tyical and the norm as the proof is in the pudding.
someone has sent me a pm claiming they want to break my legs,, i insulted another member(s), and i broke some sort of rules. That pm is circulair, ive just been theatened,,,,,:hick: gezz people. We all here are missing the human element of the internet. If i had spoken to you on the phone and used the same wordking, it would have been taken in a "T" totally different way.
I find the below pm to be evidence of the very fact i am pointing out. People cant read and soemhow, pointing out things and not being in the right click will earn you one of these. Aint it awsome:D :bowdown: Since i lost some sort of points i didnt know i had,, i need a refund pls,,lol.
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Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on January 10, 2008, 12:13:46 PM
I always wanted to go into the air force but never got the chance, at 16 i broke my right ankle and now im sure no branch of the military would want me.
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: jcassity on January 10, 2008, 12:36:05 PM
Quote from: 20th anny 5.o;196914
I always wanted to go into the air force but never got the chance, at 16 i broke my right ankle and now im sure no branch of the military would want me.
there are many more waivers available now than prior years for meeting recruiting needs. You would do good im sure.
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: CougarSE on January 10, 2008, 12:38:59 PM
I too had thought about joining the Air Force but while talking to my recruiter he told me that I would have to bring in all the documentation for my knee surgery I had a couple years back. After their doctor looked it over he would have to check out my knee himself and I would have to take some additional physical tests. I've put it off as I would like to go in after I graduate from college.
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: Thunder Chicken on January 10, 2008, 01:31:23 PM
Quote from: jcassity;196901
I was standing down on this per CougarSE's logical wisdom which i agreed with until i checked my pm and got confussed .
Then all of a sudden, i get spanked for no reason. Heck,, I can think of many instances ive been insulted and i just handled it off line. Who ever sent me that pm should be man or woman enough to clairfy it since the pm's are forum property. If you want to break my legs, be on the up and up and say who you are. Silly people.....lol.
I was very surprised that my two posts could have been skewed this much. I did not insult anyone, everyone who served has my respect. No matter the 5 w's, all of us who served could have lost thier life.
My only reason for the two posts were to keep the misinformation or ambiguity down.
In return, folks pointed out i said things i did not.,,,,tyical and the norm as the proof is in the pudding.
someone has sent me a pm claiming they want to break my legs,, i insulted another member(s), and i broke some sort of rules. That pm is circulair, ive just been theatened,,,,,:hick: gezz people. We all here are missing the human element of the internet. If i had spoken to you on the phone and used the same wordking, it would have been taken in a "T" totally different way.
I find the below pm to be evidence of the very fact i am pointing out. People cant read and soemhow, pointing out things and not being in the right click will earn you one of these. Aint it awsome:D :bowdown: Since i lost some sort of points i didnt know i had,, i need a refund pls,,lol.
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Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on January 10, 2008, 01:35:57 PM
Quote from: jcassity;196925
there are many more waivers available now than prior years for meeting recruiting needs. You would do good im sure.
Yeah , the only thing is i still have the pins and plates in. They told my parents that removing them would be cruel and unusual punishment. If i were to join up i would not want a desk job and i hate to say it but thats probably where they would stick me.
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: V8Demon on January 10, 2008, 02:25:48 PM
Scott, that line where it says the broken legs comment seems to be more of an avatar or slogan of some sort......
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: V8Demon on January 10, 2008, 05:39:18 PM
Alex, I will get even with you for burning my retinas with that picture, LOL!:beatyoass:
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: tbirdsps on January 10, 2008, 06:26:51 PM
Quote from: jcassity;196842
Aerobird,, go back and read,, bottom right hand corner will do sir. (attention to detail,,:D ) No, your wrong and inexperienced. The Nat'l defense would would have been bestowed on you no matter what. Your command just wanted to make it look like they were giving you something. EVERYONE in bootcamp on up serving would have gotten the nat'l defence and they did. My opening statement said "dont take this wrong" but i guess you did. I work in Bellingham all the time,, got any beer?
Carl , go back and read. (attention to detail,,:D ) I did not say i was retired I did not ask anyone to post thier dd214
tbirdsps No im not retired and yes i was in iraq again working with the very people you mention and going out on route clearance missions with them in the buffalo, rg31, MeerKat, Cougar and Huskey. I know all about IED's up close and personal including getting blown up.
and in close,, i wasnt busting on anyone.
I wasn't sure since I've been gone from the Navy for 10 years now. There was a time in the mid-90's that early retirement was offered to those first class and chiefs with as little as 15 years. My only point was that medical retirement does exist.
I am happy that I've never had to get up close and personal with an IED or bullets shot at me. Launching jets from the pointy end was as close as I got. Although I've been way to close to crashing jets!
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: jcassity on January 10, 2008, 06:44:04 PM
Cool,, I did flight deck time myself
USS CORAL SEA USS FORESTAL USS JOHN F KENNEDY USS GEORGE WASHINGTON.
Btw,, i got a phone call today stating if i get one more point in additon to the two i have,, IM BANNED,,:D
ANYHOO<,, im heading out to the garage, Napa got my Control Arm bushings right this time and im going to attempt it.
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: Weasle on January 10, 2008, 07:55:27 PM
United States Marine Corps 02July1990 - 01July1994 1st Marine Expeditionary Brigade Brigade Service Support Group 1 Marine Corps Air Station Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii
SEMPER FI !!! (http://www.houstonmarinemoms.org/images/usmc_flip.gif)
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: baxo on January 10, 2008, 09:25:50 PM
Quote from: V8Demon;196992
Alex, I will get even with you for burning my retinas with that picture, LOL!:beatyoass:
Oh come on, bodybuilding is an art, they worked hard to get asses like that, have some appreciation..
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: Quietleaf on January 10, 2008, 11:32:32 PM
Quote from: Carl;196761
http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/shared/media/epubs/AFI36-3212.pdf (this is publicly available info as it is a site open to the public. Don't worry about some kind of terrorist gaining anything from this or some other intelligence worries..)
I don't know what's been taken down, but my $0.02: it's good to be cognizant of sensitivity of information, even though it sometimes makes us a little paranoid. In the defense industry we get trained to hell and gone about how adversaries can piece together disparate, publicly available information to arrive at conclusions that we would prefer they not know. I don't even like mentioning what I work on (even though it's very, very public) just because it makes me a potential target for information. If we sound paranoid at times, it's because there really are bad people out there who mean us harm.
(no, I'm not a veteran -- but I help make some of their gear :evilgrin: )
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: Carl on January 10, 2008, 11:43:44 PM
Quote from: Quietleaf;197096
I don't know what's been taken down, but my $0.02: it's good to be cognizant of sensitivity of information, even though it sometimes makes us a little paranoid. In the defense industry we get trained to hell and gone about how adversaries can piece together disparate, publicly available information to arrive at conclusions that we would prefer they not know. I don't even like mentioning what I work on (even though it's very, very public) just because it makes me a potential target for information. If we sound paranoid at times, it's because there really are bad people out there who mean us harm.
(no, I'm not a veteran -- but I help make some of their gear :evilgrin: )
I know all about that stuff. What I was sharing had no risk to national security. Now I dunno about Aerobird.
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: Carl on January 10, 2008, 11:52:10 PM
Quote from: jcassity;196842
Carl , go back and read. (attention to detail,,:D ) I did not say i was retired I did not ask anyone to post thier dd214
come on man... I do paperwork for a living in my new career field and I have to pay attention to detail every day.
Quote from: jcassity;196842
You did not retire. Hope you dont take the wrong but when you say you retired,, and did not,, that takes something away from those who really did.
Ok, I assumed you were retired. How else could you properly claim how Aerobird's statement takes anything away from anyone who has retired?
Quote from: jcassity;196842
Just the bottom right hand corner of your dd214 will do sir.
If you did not ask him to show his 214 then what does that mean? Apparently he thought the same thing if he posted it...
I am not really going to argue about it anymore you are a cool guy jcassity but I dunno why you posted all that..
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: jcassity on January 11, 2008, 01:48:24 AM
Quote from: Quietleaf;197096
In the defense industry we get trained to hell and gone about how adversaries can piece together disparate, publicly available information to arrive at conclusions that we would prefer they not know.
In Risk Management, we call that situation,,,, "UNKNOWN KNOWNS"
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: jcassity on January 11, 2008, 01:49:23 AM
Heck,, i just want my two darn points back. One more and im outta here.:beatyoass: :D :hick:
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: atariman on January 11, 2008, 09:22:00 AM
I got in, went over there,:macgun: got hurt, :brick: now I am out.......and happier.:banana:
No regrets though.
Brian
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: LittleAngel1198 on January 11, 2008, 11:17:47 AM
Quote from: Weasle;197036
United States Marine Corps 02July1990 - 01July1994 1st Marine Expeditionary Brigade Brigade Service Support Group 1 Marine Corps Air Station Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii
SEMPER FI !!!
I thought the Marines had a minimum height requirement. :hick: :shakeass:
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: P71 on January 13, 2008, 01:39:17 AM
Brian, What branch were you in? I'm keeping a list on Post #1 ;)
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: vinnietbird on January 13, 2008, 05:44:41 PM
Actually,I'm not retired,just honorably discharged.I signed up for 4 years,and ended up doing 5 because my Uncle Sam put a "Stop Loss" on the military meaning that critical career fields could not get out until released,even if it was time for their discharge.I went to the Persian Gulf for 14 months.I made E-5,Staff Seargent,and I'm proud I did my part for my Country.I was Air Force.When I got back,I was a patrolman here in town (police afficer for those who use that term) for 2 years and now I work at the Veteran's Center here and have been here for 14 years.My military time applies for retirement.I'd be glad to help out if Uncle sam calls me,but,I turned 40 (although,I look MUCH younger),I believe I'm past the call back list.LOL.No regrets about any of it.Some of it sucked,especially in the Gulf,but,as i said,no regrest.I'm 40,Veteran od a Foreign War,able to retire in another year (I'm not going to),and feeling pretty darned good and healthy.There.
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: P71 on January 13, 2008, 08:06:43 PM
Nice career choices Vinnie! I'm trying to get into a work study program through the VA at the VFW helping them with their VA stuff.
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: HAVI on January 13, 2008, 08:35:15 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;197547
Actually,I'm not retired,just honorably discharged.I signed up for 4 years,and ended up doing 5 because my Uncle Sam put a "Stop Loss" on the military meaning that critical career fields could not get out until released,even if it was time for their discharge.I went to the Persian Gulf for 14 months.I made E-5,Staff Seargent,and I'm proud I did my part for my Country.I was Air Force.When I got back,I was a patrolman here in town (police afficer for those who use that term) for 2 years and now I work at the Veteran's Center here and have been here for 14 years.My military time applies for retirement.I'd be glad to help out if Uncle sam calls me,but,I turned 40 (although,I look MUCH younger),I believe I'm past the call back list.LOL.No regrets about any of it.Some of it sucked,especially in the Gulf,but,as i said,no regrest.I'm 40,Veteran od a Foreign War,able to retire in another year (I'm not going to),and feeling pretty darned good and healthy.There.
I watched you guys fly over every half hour through my scope. :)
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: vinnietbird on January 13, 2008, 08:38:14 PM
I was a Crew Chief (Aircraft Maintenance Specialist) on the KC-135R Stratotanker (Refueler).It took me all over the world,literally.
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: atariman on January 14, 2008, 08:45:42 AM
Active regular Army. Ft. Carson ,CO
now stationed at Ft. Couch, MI....in my living room.;)
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: P71 on January 16, 2008, 10:46:01 AM
I updated the list in post 1. Thanks for your service!
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: Weasle on January 16, 2008, 03:30:30 PM
FTCF Military Members:
Air Force - 3 Army - 5 Coast Guard - 1 Marines - 1 Navy - 4
Looks like the Marines out number the rest.... seeing how one Marine is worth more than 13 of the rest...:shakeass:
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: jncocowboyx on January 16, 2008, 04:52:33 PM
I did 3 years in the Army. 63B! :burnout:
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: P71 on January 16, 2008, 05:06:57 PM
Quote from: Weasle;198131
FTCF Military Members:
Air Force - 3 Army - 5 Coast Guard - 1 Marines - 1 Navy - 4
Looks like the Marines out number the rest.... seeing how one Marine is worth more than 13 of the rest...:shakeass:
Depends on the situation. Throw him in an airplane and he only knows to jump back out. Never seen a Marine land from a sea-born assault without a Coastie driving either. ;)
As long as the patch is US I don't care what branch, I have the utmost respect for all of them.
Title: FTCF Military Members?
Post by: Weasle on January 16, 2008, 09:50:10 PM
Quote from: Aerobird Motorsports;198145
As long as the patch is US I don't care what branch, I have the utmost respect for all of them.
I agree but a inner service rubbing is always fun...