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Title: project 900hp cougar pics
Post by: blackcougar71 on December 27, 2007, 07:30:39 PM
http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii52/blackcougar84/
here are pics of my car from day one to now interior pic and engine pics coming tomorrow.
Title: project 900hp cougar pics
Post by: Carpimp1987 on December 27, 2007, 08:44:32 PM
Twin turbo 351??? what are you getting that will make close to 900HP?
Title: project 900hp cougar pics
Post by: Thunder Chicken on December 27, 2007, 09:04:42 PM
Gonna take a lot more than a blacked out grille and TC hood to get 900 horses outta that 3.8. If you ever do, though, that tow truck will come in  handy...

Nice 4-eye tho...
Title: project 900hp cougar pics
Post by: blackcougar71 on December 27, 2007, 09:25:58 PM
thanks guys. those pic are from the beginning stage, the next stage is new motors with only two things which are _____ and_______ to get that 900 hp. cant tell any till complete.
Title: project 900hp cougar pics
Post by: ZondaC12 on December 27, 2007, 10:16:31 PM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;194770
Gonna take a lot more than a blacked out grille and TC hood to get 900 horses outta that 3.8. If you ever do, though, that tow truck will come in handy...
 
Nice 4-eye tho...

Yeah dude  I read that and was like did he maybe mean those two numbers flipped around? :hick:  That sounds like a more likely displacement LOL friggin buildin' a bomb there!!!!
 
This I gotta see though. If you can pull it off then :bowdown:
Title: project 900hp cougar pics
Post by: 32VFoxBird on December 27, 2007, 10:36:28 PM
i know one thing.....

you're not getting 900hp outta the stock v6!

have you ever built a motor that had 900hp before?
Title: project 900hp cougar pics
Post by: Carl on December 27, 2007, 11:35:15 PM
looks familiar :P

Here's Mine

Nice Coug

btw I have a semi built 302 and mine only has probably 210 HP
Title: project 900hp cougar pics
Post by: Carpimp1987 on December 28, 2007, 01:25:45 AM
to fill the blanks i was thinking

Turbo1

and followed by

Turbo2

right?
Title: still wet?
Post by: t3skidoo on December 28, 2007, 01:50:34 AM
Quote from: Carl;194789
looks familiar :P

Here's Mine

Nice Coug

btw I have a semi built 302 and mine only has probably 210 HP


You really should let the paint dry before taking pictures.  The rest of us might get jealous.
Title: project 900hp cougar pics
Post by: Carl on December 28, 2007, 02:08:40 AM
Quote from: t3skidoo;194809
You really should let the paint dry before taking pictures.  The rest of us might get jealous.


hahaha painted it in North Carolina and took these pics in Georgia. :P

I think 600 miles of Highway did the job.
Title: project 900hp cougar pics
Post by: blackcougar71 on December 28, 2007, 11:37:53 PM
carpimp your wrong i will give the two blanks are( tons of boost and methanol injection or / n2o)
Title: project 900hp cougar pics
Post by: ZondaC12 on December 28, 2007, 11:54:28 PM
Well I mean you see all kinds of videos of Buick Grand Nationals friggin wheelstanding like it's a walk in the park all over YouTube and stuff, same size engine, and granted it will need tons of beefing up since these obviously won't hold up as well as those buick 3.8s but I guess if they're doing it....so could one of us!!!
 
Probably a case of "if you throw enough $$ at it" I'm guessing. Of course that has a prerequisite of you having the money TO throw at it. :hick:
Title: project 900hp cougar pics
Post by: Prototype Services on December 29, 2007, 05:42:36 AM
I doubt if even an old Nascar V-6 block would take that power for more than a couple minutes.
Go read what Ken Duttweiler has done. Big power, but big $$$. No stock blocks...

Good luck, and keep the towtruck on speed-dial.
Title: project 900hp cougar pics
Post by: blackcougar71 on December 29, 2007, 01:49:26 PM
look at this v6 mustang it has a 5.1 v6
http://www.v6power.net/vb/showthread.php?t=34087
http://www.v6power.net/vb/showthread.php?t=34480
4.5L displacement, Nascar engine, siamese bores, capable of around 5.1L (?) displacement with bore and stroke. Used mainly now in circle track racing. Uses a special head which can be fitted for extra head bolts for better clamping. 450-550hp n/a, 1200-1300 with a power adder. see it is possible pretty easy too just alot of money some what.
Title: project 900hp cougar pics
Post by: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87 on December 29, 2007, 08:55:58 PM
Quote from: Prototype Services;194894
I doubt if even an old Nascar V-6 block would take that power for more than a couple minutes.
Go read what Ken Duttweiler has done. Big power, but big $$$. No stock blocks...

Good luck, and keep the towtruck on speed-dial.

snoopstang from turboford  built a little v6 from a busch series car runs bottom 6's in the 1/8th
Title: project 900hp cougar pics
Post by: blackcougar71 on December 29, 2007, 09:28:42 PM
here some new pics of my car the interior and motor pics- the beginning
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii52/blackcougar84/motor/1198983394.jpg)(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii52/blackcougar84/motor/1198983478.jpg)(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii52/blackcougar84/motor/1198983546.jpg)(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii52/blackcougar84/motor/1198983651.jpg)(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii52/blackcougar84/motor/1198983688.jpg)(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii52/blackcougar84/motor/1198983755.jpg)(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii52/blackcougar84/motor/1198983788.jpg)(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii52/blackcougar84/motor/1198983827.jpg)(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii52/blackcougar84/motor/1198983955.jpg)(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii52/blackcougar84/motor/1198983992.jpg)(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii52/blackcougar84/motor/1198984266.jpg)(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii52/blackcougar84/motor/1198984483.jpg)
and that 5.1  the internal,heads,are stock making tons of horsepower
Title: project 900hp cougar pics
Post by: Thunder Chicken on December 30, 2007, 12:09:45 AM
Quote from: blackcougar71;194911
look at this v6 mustang it has a 5.1 v6
http://www.v6power.net/vb/showthread.php?t=34087
http://www.v6power.net/vb/showthread.php?t=34480
4.5L displacement, Nascar engine, siamese bores, capable of around 5.1L (?) displacement with bore and stroke. Used mainly now in circle track racing. Uses a special head which can be fitted for extra head bolts for better clamping. 450-550hp n/a, 1200-1300 with a power adder. see it is possible pretty easy too just alot of money some what.

The 4.5 Nascar engine was only loosely based on the 3.8 and shares very little with it. The heads aren't even interchangeable. It is extremely rare and very hard to find information on, let alone find parts for one. I vaguely remember reading in an old FMS catalogue that the bore centers weren't even the same. It's a very elusive engine to find info on, though. One thing is certain: It is not an Esshag engine, and just because this engine can make and handle gobs of power doesn't mean an Esshag will. This engine was purpose built for racing, from the ground up, and has never been used in a production car.

Some of the small amount of info I was able to find, from the V6power messageboard:
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The 4.5L was a direct nascar engine, nothing on the engine is interchangeble with the 3.8/4.2. They have the same bolt pattern on the oil pan and same timing chain cover. They are pure race engines and were rated at 550 hp na. SO if you want a 4.5 v6 they costed 45k to build 10 years ago

the only thing that the 3.8/4.2L share in common with the 4.5L is they both have the same Deck height. but other then that nothing else. you can't use the same head,cam,crank,etc,etc. everything else is different in the engine.
 
Take a look at this pic of one:
(http://www.bmepfuelandtuning.com/downloads/MISC/Joe%20V6/FV6-1.JPG)

Note the extra head bolts, but more importantly, note that the block has been cast to accept them.
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