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Title: Terrible gas milage 2.3T
Post by: 88cat on July 11, 2007, 09:51:03 PM
My 88 turbocoupe daily driver is getting terrible gas milage around 12mpg. The car has 4.10's, t3 turbo, ported intakes, and 65mm t/b pretty much thats it and I dont beat on it always and milage still sucks. It drives real nice and reliable but the milage is killing me also the car is a stick any ideas what to look into to improve milage?
Title: Terrible gas milage 2.3T
Post by: dudeman351 on July 11, 2007, 09:54:44 PM
hook a dmm up to your o2 sensor and see if its switching slow( the black wire). they have a tendency to read lean as they age.
Title: Terrible gas milage 2.3T
Post by: 88cat on July 11, 2007, 10:09:10 PM
The o2 is not too old i would say 6 months old.
Title: Terrible gas milage 2.3T
Post by: bhazard on July 11, 2007, 10:10:23 PM
Any check engine lights? Check the codes.
Title: Terrible gas milage 2.3T
Post by: 88cat on July 11, 2007, 10:37:06 PM
Nope the check engine light is not on.
Title: Terrible gas milage 2.3T
Post by: bhazard on July 11, 2007, 11:21:10 PM
Check the codes anyway, you never know.
Title: Terrible gas milage 2.3T
Post by: P71 on July 12, 2007, 12:17:09 AM
4:10's says it buddy.

My TC is modded to the hilt and blowin 19psi on the street through a SC50 I still get 28-30 on the highway and 16 around town. I just filled up this morning, 18.7 gallons for 342 miles.
Title: Terrible gas milage 2.3T
Post by: CougarSE on July 12, 2007, 01:02:58 AM
I doubt its the gears.. My 3.8 cougar didn't get that bad of mileage when it had 4.10's.
Title: Terrible gas milage 2.3T
Post by: 88cat on July 12, 2007, 01:36:11 AM
I really doubt its the gears also once in a blue moon it gets like      21mpg also I dont drive that much on the highway.
Title: Terrible gas milage 2.3T
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on July 12, 2007, 08:59:14 AM
Assuming 5 speed 4.10s x .8(O/D)= 3.28 final ratio... No problem there... Hell we ran 4.30/4.56s on the street in the 60/70s WITHOUT O/D... Yea gas mileage sucked...

If you are just puttering around then that mileage is bad, but with the mods to your car I doubt thats the case... Once you are in the boost, mileage goes in the dumper...
Title: Terrible gas milage 2.3T
Post by: 88cat on July 12, 2007, 03:43:02 PM
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Once you are in the boost, mileage goes in the dumper...


Thats the thing even with me only seeing like 2psi on acceleration sometimes milage really stinks.
Title: Terrible gas milage 2.3T
Post by: gumby on July 12, 2007, 04:40:04 PM
leaking injector o-rings? pretty obvious, but thats the only time my 2.3T has ever got that bad of mileage...
Title: Terrible gas milage 2.3T
Post by: 88turbo on July 13, 2007, 10:48:41 PM
have you dialed in your tps with a volt meter?
Title: Terrible gas milage 2.3T
Post by: turbo88 on July 13, 2007, 11:04:45 PM
Replace your Temperature sensor (TPS). I had they exact same issue, tailpipes were black and i was getting 15mpg...

heres a picture off NATO (North American Thunderbird Organization) shows sensor locations.
Title: Terrible gas milage 2.3T
Post by: bhazard on July 14, 2007, 12:04:40 AM
ummm TPS is NOT "temperature sensor"
Title: Terrible gas milage 2.3T
Post by: turbo88 on July 14, 2007, 04:56:30 PM
Quote from: bhazard;160679
ummm TPS is NOT "temperature sensor"

tps is throttle position sensor my bad..

its the ECT you want then.
Title: Terrible gas milage 2.3T
Post by: V8Demon on July 15, 2007, 05:15:05 PM
How much boost are you running?  What injector size do you have?  What is your base fuel pressure without boost?
Title: Terrible gas milage 2.3T
Post by: 88cat on July 15, 2007, 08:00:41 PM
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leaking injector o-rings?


Well injectors are not leaking.

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How much boost are you running? What injector size do you have? What is your base fuel pressure without boost?


Im running 18lbs of boost stock injectors ans stock fuel pressure.
Title: Terrible gas milage 2.3T
Post by: mcb82gt on July 23, 2007, 10:26:50 AM
I would say run codes and see if anything pops up.  Is the orange ground wire connected to the turbo inlet housing?  Try and keep the RPM's below 3K so the computer stays in closed loop.  Coolant sensor for the ECU reading correct?

Mike
Title: Terrible gas milage 2.3T
Post by: thecrusher315 on August 15, 2007, 10:35:19 PM
You might want to check your fuel pressure regulator. Pull the vacuum line off of it, if you smell gas and you shouldn't, it is a bad regulator and would cause a rich condition and bad fuel mileage. Hope this helps...Tommy