Either that or selling it.
Getting a 1997 3000GT VR4
Twin Turbo 320 Horse All Wheel Drive 6 Speed Baby!
Its gonna be a great daily driver :evilgrin:
Wow that's awesome!
sounds like fun
dont be upset when its not all that fast, theyre heavy pigs
Exactly, in fact it would be a better idea to keep the eclipse and try to find a broken VR4 and swap the engine and trans into the eclipse .
home your plannin on buying that bad boy outright....
True story. I've always loved the looks of them though.
Beat one that had 50-trims swapped onto it. My car is only good for mid 13's.
Maybe the guy didn't do something right, but by 2nd I was 2 cars on him and he never caught up. Or he was BS'ing about the turbos.
I have however seen some that are really fast, but probably had a lot of work done to them.
Nice choice. Those rigs are wicked. Heavy, but set up well enough that it doesn't matter.
DAILY DRIVER
thus, I am not very concerned with how fast it is.
and actually it is fast even though it is heavy.
that guy was either BSing or sucked at driving b/c the specs for the VR4 are
As quoted from the July 1995, Vol 47, No. 7 issue of Motor Trend:
[NOTE: 1995 3000GT VR-4 tested]
Horsepower, hp @ rpm, SAE net: 320 @ 6000
Torque, lb-ft @rpm, SAE net: 315 @ 2500
Transmission: 6-speed manual
Acceleration, 0-60 mph, sec: 5.4
Standing quarter mile, sec/mph: 13.5/101.6
Braking, 60-0, feet: 118
Handling, lateral acceleration, g: 0.89
Slalom, 600-ft, mph: 68.9
http://www.3000gtvr4.com/pages/shootout.html
and I don't care who you are, if you don't call that fast for a stock car that I am buying for 17k with only 58k miles you are crazy!
and the car may be heavy, but it handles very well.
4 wheel drive, steering, and suspension.
one more thing.
the 3000GT engine wont fit in the eclipse because it faces the other way.
plus if it could it would cost more than its worth b/c I would have to change the eclipse to AWD
how you getting 17k for it from the eclipse?
I am not, I am buying it from a dealer.
Trading in the Eclipse.
17k? your getting ripped. thats a major screwing.
hope you owe nothing on your eclipse or at the very lest are in a positive equidy situation and not in the red with it.
dont be dissapointed when you cant finance it. hopefully you got some decent kuahn stashed away.
Base Price$8,275-$9,900-$10,950
Mileage - 58,000 miles $1,625
TOTAL PRICE Low $9,900 Avg $11,525 (http://"http://www.nadaguides.com/GlobalFrame.aspx?itemid=50361&LI=1-21-1-5014-708-745-50361&l=1&w=21&p=20&f=5608&xq=price-11525") High $12,575
Don't be too disappointed when the 3000GT breaks, either...cuz it'll happen.
yea i know a kid with one, he fixes it almost as much as he drives it
Not mine. :dunno:
What's wrong with the Eclipse? Just don't like it or like the 3000 more?
17k is not all that bad
15k is the blue book for the car so I should be able to talk him down to 16k I should have positive equity on the eclipse no problem. Also, I just got about $3,000 to move to Colorado from the military. I should have no problem financing it. I have good credit. Also, the only major problem with a 3000GT most of the time is the trans. The engine is a champ. I should know, I have the same block in my eclipse - the DOHC.
Base Price$8,275-$9,900-$10,950
where the hell did you find that, a VR4 base price Was $45,000!
Every car WILL break.
Trust me, I have done enough research on the car before considering it. I am not going to go by what happens to your one friend. There is a whole forum of people who have had their 3000GTs and Stealths for years and put many miles on them and they run fine.
Yeah, getting rid of the Eclipse b/c I don't like it. Also, it is FWD and I would rather have AWD.
those are figures for what that car is worth right now not new. use NADA.com as your pricing recorce. not kelly blue book, not edmunds etc. banks and dealers use nada. that car is not worth 15k book. i certainly woulddnt be happy talking him down to a price thats still over what the things worth retail. i would never buy a car for retail anyway. never more than 80%. at least thats how i buy my cars.
there is NO WAY the dealer has more than 7-8 k into it actual cash value into it.
i say good luck financing that because its 12 years old. dont care what the miles are on it. granted the mileage may be your only saving grace on it. you might be able to get a credit union to buy your loan if you have stellar credit and are at least at or under 80% of the value of the car. a mainstream bank likely isnt gonna touch it.
if your not fliped in the eclipse and you got 3 grand down you might be able to pull it off but i personally think youd still be going backwards. i still wouldnt pay out more than 13 acv on that ting though. paying more than its worth is kind of silly...
I forgot that the car is so old, you are right it may be hard to finance. :[
Well, I have always wanted a 3000GT VR4 since they first came out.
check out
http://www.3si.org/wiki/index.php/Ride_of_the_Month
for some examples of how cool these cars really are.
sure they may be heavy
sure they may not be as fast as others in their class
but they are unique, just like my cougar and all of your cars. :]
that is why I like it.
(http://www.3si.org/wiki/images/thumb/5/5e/Vmorgan1.jpg/798px-Vmorgan1.jpg)
Went to see the car and it is fast!
You are right, they wanted too much for it. I got approved for financing
but they only wanted to give me $4500 for the eclipse!
hahahaha and its in great condition
where as they had the 3000GT wayyy overpriced.
I am going to sell the eclipse and go from there.
$9500
they wont give you shiznit at a dealer no matter what it is
Not going to lie. The pic you posted looks pretty sick. That was the hardedst part about financing my car, and it's only a 99. Was finding a bank that would give me the loan. I finally found a credit union that had no mileage or year restrictions on their auto loans. I also had no credit, but still managed to get the loan for 6200 with a 13.9%... wich is high, but for a first time loan with no credit, could have been worse. I've always liked th looks of those cars, and wanted on really badly in high school, they are unique, and can be really fast when done right. But like Shame said, don't pay more than it is worth. Hell, you could get a low mileage 01-02 F-body for that kinda cash that would be in great shape. Not that you should, just saying, since I see them for sale all the time. Anyhow, good luck with whatever you may do. And I hope you find/get one that you deserve.
around here you can get v-r4's for like 8 grand with around 60,000 miles on em. My freinds brother was looking all over for em.
TC's are a very dependable car in my opinion. From my father and me owning one each i haven't had any major problems and neither has he. I know people with supras that have replaced there turbos twice or three times by the time they got to the millage my fathers had.
Hell Kemba (Kemba is krogers credit union) wouldent help me refinance the 99 cougar because they said that i paid too much for it. So i would have to agree with shame on this one, dont get rammed like me. The KBB for the 99 cougar with 100k was 6,200 i paid 10,000 almost 4 g's over what it was worth.
Change of plans!
Looks like I am still selling the Eclipse but today I found another one of my dream cars as a kid the Impreza 2.5 RS! Which is very hard to find these days. Better yet it only has 65k miles! and they only want 9,800 for it.
It's a 2001 the last year of the 2 Door Impreza! OH YEAH! :D :D :D
Also, it is 600 LBS lighter than the Current STI and has the same 2.5 liter boxer engine :] non turbo of course. So I could put an STI engine in. Or just turbo the block I have now, which can handle about 400HP.
(http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jc/images/99rs_impreza2.jpg)
shame knods head....
now your talkin ;) love them subies...
I <3 that body style
A friend of mine has/had a sweet Dodge Stealth R/T TT (esentially a VR4) that was a great car...until he riced it out :(
subby WAAAY better then that vr4
I concur!
eh, I'd take the VR4 over the scooby, but that's just me I guess.
scooby looks good!
Looks and handling would go to the Subie. VR4 = Faster, but a little elbow grease can fix that.