So yeah, I was at Carl's house tonight helping him get the Cougar to start (which it finally did btw). I leave out and start heading down the road. I'm sitting at a stop light when a black Honda S2000 with rims and single exhaust w/a fart can pulls up to me. I was just thinkin "I'll get my ass handed to me, but I'll mess with the guy a little." So the light turns green and we both casually start goin, but I just stay right next to the guy until he punches it. I was at his rear quarter panel, floored it, and to my complete surprise, I stayed right on him. It seemed like after every shift, the S2000 would just die out and let me gain the ground he was pulling once the revvs came up on his car. I didn't win the race by any means, but I gave the guy hell in a car that costs A LOT less.
On the way home I was thinking "Man there's gotta be something up here...how did my $3,000 car just give a brand new sports car such hell?" So I got home, hopped on google, and searched for S2000 specs. I found that even though the car weighs ~300lbs less and has 15 more hp, it only has 162ftlbs; barely more than half of my Tbird's 300ftlbs, which explains why the car just ped out at low rpms. Needless to say, it was pretty cool to give a car like that hell. And daboss was right when he said that S2000s dont have much grunt but they do have good top end.
its that stupid ass V TAK MAN!!! unless they are at like 5k they dont run well
I tore one apart. At a light late one night, he asked what I had then told me. He had full bolt ons too. Header, intake manifold, CAI, catless exhaust, and underdrives. Off the line I was 3 cars on him almost instantly then it was over once I hit second. He drove past when i went to turn left and we both waved, he was cool about it which I thought was neat. It really didn't sound too ricey either, I respect those cars, they really aren't a straight line type vehicle, more of a twisties type car. Only really technically my 2nd street race.
they are nice i will say but when you get in its like sitting on the floor you fall into the seats
IN TORQUE WE TRUST.
162 lb-ft. BAH! what a friggin piece of junk. i never actually knew thats all the made until now! but somehow i knew the thing couldnt get away with the horsepower it made without losing some torque.
now OUR 4-bangers are BIG ones. thats the way ya do it.
Yeah I think if I would have shifted through 1st and second and let the Tbird go up to around 5 grand, I coulda pulled up more on the guy. But it was still fun keeping up with him to about 70-75 mph in a car of 1/10th the price.
Problem with S2000's is they're made to be revved sky-high, and there's not much you can do as far as boltons to make them faster because the engine doesn't leave much on the table from the factory.
Saw an article where they did a header and full exhaust on an S2000 in SCC and gained less than 5 hp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTkZ40Ycdzw
just for the record s2000's dont have v-tec. but yeh its a revver. and yes honda put everything speed already into the stock engine so theres vertually nothing you can do to make real power only on bolt ons. i've read some articles about 1/4 mile monster s2000's and they all had engine swaps or were heavily mechined and tuned with a power adders (most popular was nitrous, then superchargers).
Wow, the exhaust on that video is super annoying. Like it's better than the typical fart can exhaust, but that sound should be reserved for real cars only. Hehe. Looks pretty quick though, and he seems to have no problem breaking it loose.
That is so totally fake...you can't get that sound unless you have something that revs to well above 10,000 RPM (hence street bikes and F1 cars sounding like that).
Somebody just went into that video and increased the pitch until it sounded like an F1 car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WirkGXYdOus&mode=related&search=
now THATS a s2000 you dont want to mess with!
BTW it DOES have vtec
The 240 horsepower 2.0-liter engine continues unchanged, and no changes are need there. It still has the highest specific power output of any street-legal naturally-aspirated engine, with more power for its size than even the engines of the Italian exotics. As always, it feels like a healthy two-liter from idle to 5000 rpm or so.
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At that point, the engine note goes from mellow traditional four-cylinder burble to something more strident, and the uninitiated driver may be tempted to back off. Don't. It gets stronger up to the VTEC cam changeover at 7000 rpm, at which point it gets joyfully insane. In the zone, from 7000 to almost 9000 rpm, the S2000 sounds like a Cosworth-powered Formula One car from the 1970s, and accelerates like one, too.
i mean my moms was nice blue on blue with a hard top, and soft top. was quick, but not as near as fast as the 04 cobra convt we have now they traded it in on
All the talk about horsepower and torque stops when you have to make that first turn...
yea thats true the s2000 was much more nimble, but the cobra just is more fun, and can seat more then 2
i KNEW that one was coming :D and ill be the first to say :flip:
(i dont want to ignite a fight/debate, just stating my humble opinion)
Hell is riding for any length of time in the back of a Mustang. It is a two-seater in my opinion. Heck, I hate to put anybody in the back of our cars for anything more than an in-town errand.
I think Mazda might have a bit to say about that claim. 232 horsepower from 1.3 naturally aspirated liters. That's a staggering 178.5 horsepower per liter. To put that in perspective, one of our 4.9 liter V8's (yes, they're 4.9 liters, not 5.0 as Ford would have us believe) would have to belt out nearly 875 horsepower, naturally aspirated and street legal, to match it. The original S2000 put out 240 from 2.0 liters, or 120 horses per liter (newer ones put out 240 from 2.2 liters, so they have a lower specific output). The RX-8 also has 159 lb-ft of torque, only three less than the 2.2 liter Honda. The Mazda will happily spin to 9k RPM, too. Just like the Honda. And just like the Honda, the engine has to be revved to get any power out of it. That's what those cars are all about, though. I've never driven either - the closest I came was an Acura Integra type R (or whatever they called it - it was a used car and I was doing the "GM Certified" used car inspection on it). You haven't lived until you've revved an engine to 8k RPM (and that's still 1K RPM below the S2000). It's a different kind of fun than a V8 owner will be used to, but it is still most certainly fun. I almost bought that car on the spot, but the dealership owner's son had a friend that had dibs on it.
Personally, for a small puppiesanese roadster I'd take a Miata over an S2000 (and a 350Z over either)
True love is turning one of our beloved V-8s to 9000+rpm.....
And then sliding it through the first corner.....
hp/Liter is nice for a racing series where you are restricted on displacement, but in the real world, hp/dressed engine weight is far more important. This is one reason the LS7 is still state of the art. Light for its power output.
ive rode in the back set of a 66 stang for 5 hours, back seat of the 04 for about 5, 11 hours in the back seat of a turbocoupe, and a dakota, the back seat on all of those is MUCH BETTER then that DAKOTA!!
I'm not auto crossing or anything. Handing doesnt mean anything going from stoplight to stoplight or on the strip. If I need to take turns and have as much speed as the Tbird, I'll take my dad's 85 T/A with the WS6 suspension. That thing handles like nobody's business. :evilgrin:
It's a bit of a stretch to equate a rotary to a piston engine in "displacement" because it's just a little too different...besides the fact that the traditional means of determining displacement don't really give you the "true" displacement of a rotary.
Meh, theyre not too bad. Ive been into third-gen F-bodies long before i knew thunderbirds existed. Ive ridden in some NASTY ones, anything from auto cross, to 9 second cars.
The point im making, an S2000 isnt meant to go straight. Its a car built with cornering in mind. Take a road race car to the drag strip, youll be dissapointed. Take a drag car to the road race circuit, youll probably wreck it.
Yup, and thats exactly why I'm not road racing :hick: . Still doesnt take anything away from the fact my Tbird was hanging with a pretty expensive sports car. :)
About dad's T/A, it's really funny to ride around in it for a while, then hop in the Chevelle and drive some. Two COMPLETELY different cars handling and horsepower wise.