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Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: kingcars on May 09, 2007, 08:46:07 PM
Anybody here play GT?  I've been playing since it came out...it was the first game I ever got with my first console, a PlayStation (yeah...I never got an NES or SNES...lame).  Since then I've been a pretty big fan.  There are better racing sims on PC (GT Legends, GTR2), but the accuracy of the car models and everything in GT are unsurpassed.  Here is an album of some pics I took:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v173/kingcars/Gran%20Turismo%204/

My favs are my supercharged silver Z06 and GT350 Stang.  If you want pics of any car in the game, ask me and I can take some for you.  These also make great desktop backgrounds.

If you want to share pics, just hook a flash drive into your PS2's USB port, and when you save pics in photo mode, you can save them to the flash drive.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: daboss351 on May 09, 2007, 09:30:14 PM
i loved it when i played video games alot last one i had was number 3, now im obsessed with forza, and im getting a 360 just for forza 2
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: kingcars on May 09, 2007, 09:35:09 PM
I played the first Forza and wasnt impressed.  The physics felt way off; no matter how many other features a sim may have, if it doesnt feel right, I'm not picking it up.

PS - GT4 >>>>>> GT3
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: daboss351 on May 09, 2007, 09:38:10 PM
havn't got gt4 yet want to though
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: kingcars on May 09, 2007, 09:51:31 PM
GT4 = car heaven.  Still has py AI, but the BSpec mode, photo mode, and HUNDREDS OF CARS is too good to stay away from.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on May 09, 2007, 10:52:50 PM
Personally i loved Forza 1 and cant wait for forza 2 although they seem content to push it back almost every month.Gues i would rather have a finished and polished game rather than something that was rushed out.I have ever since the GT series came out hated it, the car control seems arcadish to me and well its on the gaystation3, screw sony.

And before anyone goes screaming 360 fanboy, i hate sony for legitimate reasons
1. Their Holier than Thou attitude
2. Closing Lik-sang down
3. py Products

To expand on reason 3 i bought a sony atracplus3 cd player a year ago, it got the usual wear and tear a cd player gets.Just a few months ago i go and boot it up and the  thing does not work. That experience really soured me on Sony products then they go and close lik-sang further g me off.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: daboss351 on May 09, 2007, 10:58:04 PM
yea thats waht i love about forza the cars act so much more real, in gt games you can do shiznit that would never happen
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: tireshredder on May 09, 2007, 11:00:53 PM
GT4 is great, except that half the cars are the '70s puppies cars.  Only two Mustangs: GT350 and '00 Cobra R.  Good, but could be sooo much better.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: kingcars on May 09, 2007, 11:39:11 PM
Yeah they need to step up the American lineup some, but its gettin better.  In GT1, all you could get were a few Vettes.

@ the Forza fanboys:  Turn off assists in GT ;) .  Especially with a Driving Force Pro...it's amazing.  Forza may have damage, but it doesnt make it realistic since the cars drive like they're on ice.  I HATE racing games that feel like youre driving on ice.  And screw damage models; if youre any good, you wont have to worry about them.  Thats my 2 cents.  GT does have the worst AI ever, however.  But I dont play it for that.  And besides, if you want REAL RACING with REAL damage models and amazing AI, get GT Legends or GTR2.  The best sim racing games ever made.  Period.

Oh, there are THREE Mustangs....you forgot the 05 ;)
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: cougrrr302 on May 10, 2007, 12:47:49 AM
I go with Need For Speed Underground or Most Wanted. That way I get to drive rice burners. Thats the only time I ever get to crash them. I do like the Goat on there, sounds pretty mean for a video game on surround sound.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: 1WLD BRD on May 10, 2007, 12:51:21 AM
I have ALL the GT's.  My favorite racing game, hands down.  Love how the sounds are FINALLY different for all the cars.  You can actually tell who is coming up behind you by the sound now.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: kingcars on May 10, 2007, 01:32:18 AM
Yeah, GT has always had good sounds, but their sounds for the muscle cars have been weak, and thats an understatement.  There's no way a 1970 Chevelle 454 is as quiet as it is in GT4, especially when compared to other cars.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: ipsd on May 10, 2007, 01:36:31 AM
Yes that is the reason that I bought the playstation 1 in the 1st place. A buddy came over with GT the day it came out. The next day I bought at PS1 and GT with a memory card. I love all the GT games. In GT one give me the GTO fully dressed and any track  and I will SMOKE you time and time again. If I pick the track I don't want to here you complain. I will own you THAT IS JUST HOW IT IS!!! I still own the others even GT4 very very nice games. I love them all!!
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: Dogcharmer on May 10, 2007, 06:54:44 AM
I completed 78% of GT3 but I never got too far into GT4 because Forza came out right after it did and I prefered Forza because of the customization and tuning. Although resently as soon as I started playing GT4 again my PS2 ped out and stopped working... POS! Good thing I've got Forza 2 reserved:D

BTW, the solution to py AI is Xbox Live.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: oldraven on May 10, 2007, 07:18:22 AM
NFS-U and MW are good for what they are, but as far as reals sims go, GT4 can't be touched. Has anyone seen the press clips from GT-HD for PS3?

:bowdown:

(http://www.journaldugamer.com/images/2006_10/gthd_08.jpg)

(http://blogs.theage.com.au/screenplay/archives/GTHD.jpg)

(http://www.journaldugamer.com/images/2006_10/gthd_04.jpg)

(http://www.vidaextra.com/images/gthd.JPG)(http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2006/08/gthd_launch.jpg)

(http://www.pcgames.com.cn/tvgames/bao/pic/0609/pic/pcgames0923gthd03_thumb.jpg)

(http://images.amazon.com/images/G/01/videogames/detail-page/gthd-4-lg.jpg)
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: P71 on May 10, 2007, 10:27:47 AM
GT finally gets Ferrari's!! ! Now I have to go buy a PS3. :(

I LOVE GT4, I have the settings turned for maximum "actuality" and the car selection pretty awesome.

I have been playing a lot of NFS Most Wanted and Carbon lately. Both good games with lots of tuning but horrible arcade-style driving models.

I can't wait for a GT game to be on PC. Then I could really rock the house!
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: Beau on May 10, 2007, 11:30:04 AM
Quote from: Aerobird Motorsports;146215
I can't wait for a GT game to be on PC. Then I could really rock the house!

AMEN brotha!!

BTW, has anyone ever raced the TVR Speed 12 from GT2...that sumbitch IS TEH shiznit!

Nothing, and I mean nothing (not even the much-vaunted Pikes Peak Escudo) will touch that car....IF you can drive it in the corners...

It's everything, and then some.

PS, the Dodge Concept Car  LM Edition is also pretty bad-ass, too...great handling, and decent power...I use it to win against cars with twice the power...
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: bhazard on May 10, 2007, 11:52:17 AM
GT has always been biased towards imports. Meh.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: kingcars on May 10, 2007, 12:13:01 PM
bhazard, thats because the development team IS IN puppiesAN.  And when they made the first GT, they never expected the game to become so big in the states; it was intended for the puppiesanese consumers.  But over the iterations, they are slowly but surely putting more and more domestics in.  It's not bias, it was just originally directed towards a different consumer area.

@oldraven:  I played GT: HD the other day and it is AMAZING.  That Ferrari is AWESOME with assists turned off...I can drift that thing like a pro.  And the graphics.... *drool*
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: 84 Fila on May 10, 2007, 12:13:37 PM
I'm kinda a current fan of PGR3. Got it with my 360 and never loooked back. Got a few bitchin fords and I'm happy. GT$ is still cool though. From time to time i even play GT and GT2
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: kingcars on May 10, 2007, 12:21:41 PM
I like PGR3 as well, it's cool.  But that isn't a sim so GT fills that void.  And GT Legends/GTR2 of course.  :)
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: P71 on May 10, 2007, 01:05:30 PM
bhazard,
You'll like GT4 then. It has FAR more American cars then the other ones and quite a "range" as well. From the top of my head, 70 Chevelle SS 454, 69 Charger HEMI, 67 Cobra 427, 65 Shelby GT350, 04 GTO, 04 Z06, 05 Mustang GT, 00 Cobra R, 99 SHO Taurus, 87 Buick GNX, 67 Cougar XR7, 02 Camaro SS, and quite a few others I'm forgetting.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: kingcars on May 10, 2007, 01:54:40 PM
Yeah, 69 Camaro SS 350 & Z28 302 versions, 1970 Superbird, etc etc.  Wheres a car list?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/561066/35697

There ya go.  Enjoy!
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: oldraven on May 10, 2007, 02:09:12 PM
The best sleeper in GT2 was the Mazda 323F. Maxed out it will beat vipers around the road courses.

(http://ua-board.com/fotos/big/9764.jpg)

And domestics have been getting much more common over the years. I just so happens that most domestics in the games are muscle cars. You aren't going to beat many ITR's or RX7's with a Grand National around a track.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: kingcars on May 10, 2007, 02:22:57 PM
Yeah but muscle cars are what we want in the game, so I can live with that.  :)

Maybe they'll have a fox Tbird or Cougar in GT5!  Hahaha hey, I can hope!
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: P71 on May 10, 2007, 02:34:44 PM
I'd have a stroke if a 87/88 TC ended up in a GT game!
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: xr7cat on May 10, 2007, 02:40:00 PM
If there were, it might make them more popular, and start g of the stang guys more! lol

That and you would have something to drive will in rehab!
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: kingcars on May 10, 2007, 02:59:03 PM
Yeah, IF that ever happened, I'd bet it'd be the 87/88 TC.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: oldraven on May 10, 2007, 03:06:01 PM
Oh, and you'll never see GT on PC. It's a Sony exclusive for a reason. Half the people who buy Playstations do so so they can play the new GT.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: kingcars on May 10, 2007, 03:13:38 PM
GT5 is the only reason I REALLY want a PS3 right now.  There are a few other good games, but not to the extent of GT5.  I'm glad you brought that up, raven, cause I forgot to mention that myself.  Sony has exclusive rights to Polyphony Digital.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: P71 on May 10, 2007, 03:38:58 PM
Quote from: oldraven;146269
Oh, and you'll never see GT on PC. It's a Sony exclusive for a reason. Half the people who buy Playstations do so so they can play the new GT.


ONLY reason I own a PS2 at all. (I just got it in Dec too :hick: tired of stealing everybody else's)
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: daboss351 on May 10, 2007, 03:43:17 PM
i got the peaks pike car off my freinds memory card for gt3 thats how i bet the game did massive money races with it and bought and modded tons of cars
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: nirvanagod on May 10, 2007, 03:50:24 PM
Quote from: Aerobird Motorsports;146215
I can't wait for a GT game to be on PC. Then I could really rock the house!


Toca Race Driver 3: http://www.codemasters.com/tocaracedriver3/
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: kingcars on May 10, 2007, 04:04:49 PM
I've been wanting to try that game...I have the 2nd on PS2.  I'll check out the demo.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: P71 on May 10, 2007, 05:49:39 PM
Bleh! Can you say 90's coast-to-coast arcade game? The graphics are weak sauce and the car list is short! The lawnmower is the only remotely cool thing about that game. Maybe if I find a $10 used copy for the PS2, but I doubt I'd buy it.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: kingcars on May 10, 2007, 05:55:05 PM
@ Aerobird:  Like I've said previously, if you want the best racing sim(s) ever made, get GTR2 and GT Legends.  GT Legends has a lot of classic race cars and GTR2 has the modern stuff.  Both games have great graphics, amazing physics, and most of all, GREAT AI!  I've had several experiences of racing side by side through several S bends with the AI before, and especially in GT Lengends in overpowered, power sliding monsters, it's quite an experience.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on May 10, 2007, 06:04:11 PM
Quote from: oldraven;146269
Oh, and you'll never see GT on PC. It's a Sony exclusive for a reason. Half the people who buy Playstations do so so they can play the new GT.


Its funny as hell how Sony keeps losing exclusives like Ace Combat 5 and Devil May Cry 4 and a whole list of others. By the end of 07 the only exclusive games for the PS3 will Be MGS4 and what ever SOE and other sony divisions crank out. Considering that you can buy a premium Xbox360 for 680 dollars Thats with one year of live, extra controller,factory warranty and one game.I think i will stick with Msoft especially since they already have a host of great games. And dont even bring up GTA4, GTA4 was meant for the xbox360 in the first place sony lost thier "Exclusive" rights to the gta franchise after Sanandreas.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: P71 on May 10, 2007, 06:25:24 PM
$680 buys a LOT of mods for the cars. I spent $120 on my PS2 (OK, so John did for my Christmas present, but I got him $120 worth of stuff).
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: oldraven on May 10, 2007, 06:26:24 PM
Do you want to put money on that? ;) Gran Turismo is Sony's Mario Brothers. And it goes both ways. Anyone remember when Turok was Nintendo only? Well, Sony ended up with that exclusive. How about Final Fantasy? I was shocked to see Nintendo give that one up.

As for sticking with Microsoft, have at 'er. I'm a PC user, so I'm not a fan by default. :P Of all the electronics I've owned over the years my Sony products have been bulletproof. Last week was the first time I've ever had a failure, and it worked fine when I got home from work. I can't say that about anything running on MS software. Plus, Sony has never had the BSOD.

But let's not let ruin this thread about a great game by turning it into a MS vs. Sony bitchfight. Anything we can say has already been said a million times over.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on May 10, 2007, 07:26:39 PM
I will respectively push away from the table with one last thing to say.

I'am jaded towards Sony for reasons of unreliable equipment. My First and second ps2 both had the power supply problems, i then bought the aforementioned Atrac3plus Cd player which broke in a year. The icing on the PS3 cake was a two step process 1 the price, secondly the closing of Lik-sang.

NOt saying that you should believe anything posted in a wiki but here ya go
Lik-Sang Wiki (http://"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lik-Sang")

Quote
Sony has never had BSOD
Thats because all of their consoles run Linux or some other kind of unix system. Sony has never tried to compile an operating system.PS3 Operating System (http://"http://www.osnews.com/story.php/14043/PS3-Holy-Grail-for-Alternative-Operating-Systems")

And one more thing im in no way a FanBoy of Microsoft i plan on buying another psp when i can afford it here soon and possibly when and if there ever is a price drop possibly buy a PS3, but like the Psp it will probably be too late in the game for me to care.

Forza2 Demo is available for DL for those who care
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: kingcars on May 11, 2007, 12:53:57 AM
It's just like car manufacterer wars.  One guy will buy a Ford, it will break down in a week, then he goes around saying that all Fords suck.  Another guy will buy an identical Ford and it will run 200,000 miles without any major issues.  The lesson here is that every company has its fair share of problems along with strong points.  I have had my PS2 for about 5 years now and it's going strong.  It has been through many all night gaming sessions, heck, I left it on last night so my 24h GT4 enduro race would keep goin.  Thats not the first time I've done that either.  No disc read problems or anything.

And for the record, Polyphony Digital IS NOT SONY!!!  So dont hold that against them by saying GT sucks because Sony sucks.  That's good ol' fashioned ignorance.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: cougrrr302 on May 11, 2007, 12:56:11 AM
My PS2 ped out. So instead of buying a then $500 360, I opted for a $125 replacement slim PS2. Shes running fine, played some Manhunt and Shadow of the Colossus lately. Even busted out my GTA: San Andreas, the before scandal copy, that thing was bogus.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: tireshredder on May 11, 2007, 01:18:00 AM
Mine keeps getting the disc read error.  I've sent it back 2 times already for the same thing.  But I still like the line up better than the other two ( Is Gamecube/Wii an option for someone over 13?).  As soon as I get the cash to get one, a Slim PS2 will be sitting on my TV.  Just in time for the release of PS4. :)
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: nirvanagod on May 11, 2007, 09:14:47 AM
Quote from: tireshredder;146423
Is Gamecube/Wii an option for someone over 13?



Yes.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on May 11, 2007, 02:47:09 PM
Quote from: kingcars;146419

And for the record, Polyphony Digital IS NOT SONY!!!  So dont hold that against them by saying GT sucks because Sony sucks.  That's good ol' fashioned ignorance.


Beg to differ, SONY SUBSIDIARY (http://"http://www.polyphony.co.jp/english/index.html") thats like saying that mercury is not ford.

None the less i never said it sucked i just said that i hate it because of its arcadish feel.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: oldraven on May 11, 2007, 03:13:01 PM
Any NFS I'd call Aracadish, but a true sim like GT? Realism in vehicle dynamics is the entire point of the game. I'd have to disagree.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: BCA on May 11, 2007, 03:48:45 PM
Quote from: tireshredder;146423
Mine keeps getting the disc read error.  I've sent it back 2 times already for the same thing.



A couple of years ago my PS2 started making some strange and kind of scary noises on some discs, and then I ran into disc read errors as well. I was told that it would need fixing by a professional and it would cost a minimum of $60 to do so with no guarantees of a cure. It was out of warranty so I figured I had nothing to loose by taking it apart myself. Turned out it was a dirty lens. I cleaned it with a Q-tip & some rubbing alcohol, put the cover back on and it worked fine.
It has acted up on me once since then, and I just pull the cover off and clean the lens again and it works fine.

Brent
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: kingcars on May 11, 2007, 04:52:37 PM
Quote from: 20th anny 5.o;146514
Beg to differ, SONY SUBSIDIARY (http://"http://www.polyphony.co.jp/english/index.html") thats like saying that mercury is not ford.

None the less i never said it sucked i just said that i hate it because of its arcadish feel.


I wasnt directing that at anyone in particular.  Sony publishes GT, but Polyphony Digital actually makes the game.

But about the arcadish feel argument, I'll stick by oldraven's post.  Other than the fact that there's no damage and the AI sucks, I dont see anything Arcadish about the game.  Try barreling into a corner at the Nurb in a Shelby Cobra and tell me what happens.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: daboss351 on May 11, 2007, 06:15:53 PM
ive had my ps2 for years i got mine used, and i have left it on for up to 4 days straight, NO PROBLEMS. works like new
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: Dogcharmer on May 12, 2007, 06:37:55 AM
Quote from: BCA;146529
A couple of years ago my PS2 started making some strange and kind of scary noises on some discs, and then I ran into disc read errors as well. I was told that it would need fixing by a professional and it would cost a minimum of $60 to do so with no guarantees of a cure. It was out of warranty so I figured I had nothing to loose by taking it apart myself. Turned out it was a dirty lens. I cleaned it with a Q-tip & some rubbing alcohol, put the cover back on and it worked fine.
It has acted up on me once since then, and I just pull the cover off and clean the lens again and it works fine.

Brent


Looks like my PS2 is coming apart this week end... Hell, I've got nothing to lose.

Thanks for the tip Brent.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: Ether947 on May 12, 2007, 08:27:25 AM
Quote from: Dogcharmer;146644
Looks like my PS2 is coming apart this week end... Hell, I've got nothing to lose.

Thanks for the tip Brent.

I fixed my PS2 the same way.

I don't really play sim racing games anymore. Actually I don't play too much of anything anymore. I just don't have the time. GT3 was the last sim I really played (or I should say owned). I remember going from completely loathing the Laguna Seca race to absolutely loving it once I learned the course.

Forza is a awesome game as well, as I love the customization. I have to say my favorite track is Nuremberg. Favorite car: GT40 (the new one). That car sounds awesome blasting though the stereo. I'd hit the throttle just to hear it. Secret weapon to the unsuspecting: Skyline. lol. It's so funny to watch that car accelerate like crazy on the other person's screen at the start of the race.

But may favorite racer of All-Time is Burnout: Takedown! I. LOVE. That Game!!!!
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: kingcars on May 12, 2007, 09:12:56 AM
Burnout Revenge is 10 times better, actually.  I love that they put crash mode back more like Burnout 2 instead of B3's stupid tokens and stuff...they limited the ways to crash a lot.  I highly recommend you try it if you love B3.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: oldraven on May 12, 2007, 10:50:04 AM
Nuremberg was a puppies war criminal trial and a Bavarian city. Nurburgring is the race track. ;)

It is awesome, but if you're watching your kid while you play you have to pause the race 17 times before you finish the lap. :P Of course, Coira's usually on my lap as my co-driver.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on May 13, 2007, 03:15:01 AM
I havent played a burnout game in a while, have they changed all that much with them or are they the same ol cause as much  as you can in one instance. I just never really got back into them because they all started to blend together for me as they released one every 6 months or so.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: kingcars on May 13, 2007, 01:01:48 PM
They got it all right in Burnout Revenge, so if youre going to play one, play that one.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on May 13, 2007, 06:47:01 PM
Ok cool, i know they had released quite a few and I stopped paying attention to them. Its highly doubtful since Forza is out on the 29th that i will have time for other games so maybe i will grab it when i have had enough of FM2.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: kingcars on May 13, 2007, 06:56:33 PM
Haha I can promise you that Burnout Revenge is extremely addicting if youre not careful.  Burnout 2 had an awesome crash mode, but the racing was 'meh'.  Then Burnout 3 came out with much better racing, but they effed up the crash mode with stupid tokens you had to hit.  Burnout revenge had the racing from B3 (with an added twist that is AWESOME) and the crashing from Burnout 2 (with the most genious addition EVER) all in 1 package.
Title: Gran Turismo
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on May 13, 2007, 09:39:04 PM
Cool, by now im sure it should be on the platinum List aka the Cheap s list meaning i probably will pick it up.