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Title: Beware of the CLAW!
Post by: 86elan on October 21, 2006, 05:54:30 PM
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f364/1969NissanTitan/1988%20Turbocoupe/DSC01313.jpg)
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Title: Beware of the CLAW!
Post by: shame302 on October 21, 2006, 06:07:44 PM
cool....looked like it had good doors though :(
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Post by: 86elan on October 21, 2006, 06:10:27 PM
no, they were really rotted along the bottom. I thought about keeping some of the glass but was in a hurry.
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Post by: Dogcharmer on October 21, 2006, 07:57:59 PM
You couldn't have used the door glass on your 86 anyway. Different window regulators.
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Post by: Ether947 on October 21, 2006, 08:05:44 PM
Don't show this over on NATO... less you want to be crucified. :grinno:

How 'bout some more pics of your 86. :)
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Post by: baxo on October 21, 2006, 08:58:36 PM
 I woulda saved the glass and the door mouldings anyway.. you never know who on the board would have needed those later.
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Post by: 86elan on October 21, 2006, 10:31:38 PM
I bought it from a guy over on NATO, sent him the pictures.  I was in too big of a hurry to grab any more parts.  Need the trailer tomorrow to pick up a 69 Chevy longbox
Here's that eye candy you asked for Ether
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f364/1969NissanTitan/1986%20Thunderbird/dsc01159.jpg)
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f364/1969NissanTitan/1986%20Thunderbird/dsc01146.jpg)
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f364/1969NissanTitan/1986%20Thunderbird/dsc01156.jpg)
Title: Beware of the CLAW!
Post by: 88turbo on October 21, 2006, 10:35:40 PM
how much of the interior did you save? if only they used these claws at the wal-mart :D
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Post by: DVP on October 21, 2006, 10:46:34 PM
makes my stomach turn, but that is a nice 86! do i see a lower stance in the future?
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Post by: Thunder Chicken on October 21, 2006, 10:48:57 PM
Dayum, those four eyes are really growing on me...
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Post by: Ether947 on October 21, 2006, 11:49:15 PM
Too late...
http://natomessageboard.com/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=018205

That's a sweet 86. Just need to lower that ride height  a bit, but  that thing is clean!!!
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Post by: bhazard on October 22, 2006, 01:32:49 AM
Yup, you better go into hiding...
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Post by: Blackout on October 22, 2006, 02:19:19 AM
OOOhhhh.. LOL Mike sounds Pissed over there LOL
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Post by: P71 on October 22, 2006, 03:34:53 AM
Rear 1/4 trim moldings $100 pair, rubber door moldings $50 each, front 1/4 trim rubbers $50 pair. Total of 4 minutes to remove all of them. Windshield $100, rear window $200, rear 1/4 windows $50 pair, driver's door glass $150, passenger door glass $50, less then an hour to remove all of them. On top of the fact that there was NOTHING wrong with the car! Why strip a perfectly good vehicle?? Layla was (and the paint and trim still are) worse then that car! Ughh, this just boils my blood.
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Post by: tbirdscott on October 22, 2006, 04:40:03 AM
86elan is going to have a whole gang of mikes with torches and pitchforks on his lawn at 3am lol

Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda, the car is gone, I'f i'da known I would have saved the interior outta my 81 parts car and 86 tc (among other things) but you cant save them all.
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Post by: 5.0willgo on October 22, 2006, 08:28:17 AM
*taps playing softly*

The sad thing is, that car looked better and looked like it was less rotted than both of my Cats. Didn't I read somewhere that the frame was rotted bad at the k-members?
I fear I might be doing the same to my '86 :(
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Post by: SSX on October 22, 2006, 12:52:43 PM
That is a very sharp '86!  I love it.  Plus I see a Huskers logo in the very first pic, so that gives you extra points :)
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Post by: 84 Fila on October 22, 2006, 02:05:37 PM
Well the shiznit hit the fan on this one:brick:  Kudos on the 86 though.
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Post by: thunderjet302 on October 22, 2006, 03:24:33 PM
Your car looks good.:birdsmily:  I hope that TC had some bad structural rust cause it looked good to me.
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Post by: 86elan on October 23, 2006, 09:54:37 AM
It did have some bad structural rust damage around the strut towers especially, bottoms of the quarters, doors, fenders, and so on.  I wish I could have held on to it longer, I just didn't have the time or the space.
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Post by: Chuck W on October 23, 2006, 10:27:18 AM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;109429
Dayum, those four eyes are really growing on me...


You know you want one :D


The guy saved what he could. If it was a rough as he said underneath, then what's the deal?

This is nothing compared to the assclown on TF that posted a complete running 86 XR-7 up for sale...then had it hauled off to the sper the very next day....complete.....
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Post by: 86elan on October 23, 2006, 10:33:34 AM
Birdman, how can you say that there was nothing wrong with that car? Did you look at it before I bought it? Did you see it after the drivetrain was pulled? Calm down buddy, let it go.
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Post by: stuntmannick on October 23, 2006, 11:29:19 AM
Cool, I ran that exact same grapple crane at the yard I worked at last summer.
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Post by: Thunder Chicken on October 23, 2006, 12:30:54 PM
You guys can bust his balls all you want about his not saving this and that, but the facts are these:
It's simple. He bought a parts car, took what he needed/wanted, then got rid of the rest. Nothin' wrong with that...
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Post by: cougarcragar on October 23, 2006, 01:25:05 PM
Quote from: Chuck W;109668

This is nothing compared to the assclown on TF that posted a complete running 86 XR-7 up for sale...then had it hauled off to the sper the very next day....complete.....


A 5-speed with the FMS sideskirts, none the less...
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Post by: 86elan on October 23, 2006, 04:54:12 PM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;109681
You guys can bust his balls all you want about his not saving this and that, but the facts are these:
  • He has an '86, so none of the glass, or the doors, or the fenders, or the trim, would fit his car
  • He could have offered up most of those parts here in the For Sale section absolutely free and even then it's likely nobody would have taken them. Shipping glass is risky, and shipping doors is extremely expensive.
  • He very likely has something better to do with his time than to strip off parts he can't use, only to be nickel-and-dimed to death when he tried to sell 'em
  • He likely has better things to do with the space those parts would have taken up in his garage or basp00get
It's simple. He bought a parts car, took what he needed/wanted, then got rid of the rest. Nothin' wrong with that...


well put, thank you
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Post by: 88turbo on October 23, 2006, 04:58:37 PM
even though its sad to see another one go I dont hate you, I love my TC more than my cougars or any other car for that matter but they are only cars....
Title: Beware of the CLAW!
Post by: grutinator on October 23, 2006, 08:04:57 PM
Quote from: 88turbo;109702
but they are only cars....


I dont even kno u anymore! your dead to me! get outta this group! 

no im just playing...im tired....sorry  :sorry:
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Post by: P71 on October 23, 2006, 09:51:24 PM
The pictures I saw of the car whole looked a LOT nicer and rust-free then what you say. Actually, the pics you posted of it getting clawed it still looks nicer. How bad was the strut tower rust, because the dime-sized  in the 1/4's was pretty much surface only. They look nicer then the 1/4's on 75% of the cars on this site, including mine.
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Post by: tbirdscott on October 23, 2006, 10:13:06 PM
Ibtl?
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Post by: 88turbo on October 23, 2006, 10:31:19 PM
Quote from: grutinator;109726
I dont even kno u anymore! your dead to me! get outta this group! 

no im just playing...im tired....sorry  :sorry:



lol  I still love the :birdsmily:
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Post by: cougrrr302 on October 24, 2006, 12:19:33 AM
Too bad to see it go. I own a four eyed Coug, and Im itching to own a four eyed bird too! FOUR EYES RULE!
Title: Beware of the CLAW!
Post by: 88turbo on October 24, 2006, 01:01:00 AM
Nathan I know where there is an 83 or 84 4 eye bird.  not sure what it has for an engine but its white and looks to be in good shape from the road.  its about 30 miles from here
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Post by: turbo88 on October 24, 2006, 01:34:25 AM
seeing that TC with the claw Carrying it away actually made my stomach turn. God im happy that all of us have a passion for this era of :birdsmily:  & :cougarsmily:
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Post by: Beau on October 24, 2006, 01:59:49 AM
While it does suck to see a somewhat decent TC sped...it IS his car, or was, rather....

Anyway, to get to MY point of this post, I'm gonna take a coupla pics of my TC, and my first Tbird tomorrow (today) when I go to pull the TC's 2.3t and T5. The pic will show just how much o've taken off both cars..

Yeah, it sucks he didn't get the glass, but hey...can't really expect somebody to keep they have neither the room for, nor a car that said parts will work on.
Believe me, I felt bad for partin' my TC..but it didn't have the title, and the front core support was twisted and beat up, and the gas tank had been cut out of it.
Knowing that 90% of the parts I took off of mine makes it easier to think bout though.
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Post by: tbirdscott on October 24, 2006, 02:06:28 AM
The solution is not to s them at all, take the parts you need and experiment with the rest :grinno:

(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i11/turbosprunt/TRUCK1111.jpg)
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Post by: 86elan on October 24, 2006, 08:56:20 AM
Quote from: Aerobird Motorsports;109745
The pictures I saw of the car whole looked a LOT nicer and rust-free then what you say. Actually, the pics you posted of it getting clawed it still looks nicer. How bad was the strut tower rust, because the dime-sized  in the 1/4's was pretty much surface only. They look nicer then the 1/4's on 75% of the cars on this site, including mine.


Everone should know that pictures hide most defects. The rust behind the LR wheel was definately not surface. Also, the area between the doors and the rear wheel wells along the bottom of the 1/4s was rusting from the inside out along that entire area on both sides. Same goes with the doors; rusting from inside to out all the way front to back.  Most of the metal around the rubber moldings was rusting.  I guess I should have media blasted the car and took pics of every rust spot before I took it to the sper so that YOU could sleep at night
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Post by: MasterBlaster on October 24, 2006, 09:13:55 AM
Quote
I guess I should have media blasted the car and took pics of every rust spot before I took it to the sper so that YOU could sleep at night
Yes, you should have. But instead, you killed it, you horrible, evil, wicked person. :flame:
A pox on thee and all those with the same shoe size (I have no idea what that means :confused: ).
Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries! :shakeass:
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Post by: 86elan on October 24, 2006, 09:22:51 AM
Death awaits YOU with nasty, big, pointy teeth.
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Post by: P71 on October 24, 2006, 10:26:50 AM
I really could care less that you didn't get all the parts. It's the fact that you bought a running, driving car from a guy that was nicer then a large majority of 83-88 TBirds, and then proceeded to strip it and crush it. You didn't even tell the seller you were going to strip it, you just sent him claw photos. By all means, strip cars, save parts, build your own ride. Just stop taking the running driving GOOD ones will you? I know pictures hide a lot, but your pictures are hiding less then mine and a lot of other peoples. That's one less decent TBird somebody will be able to enjoy.
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Post by: Metal Matt on October 24, 2006, 10:28:52 AM
Those first pics made me cry on the inside, but Im loving that 86. Those kinds of rims you have on it (cobra R I'm guessing?) have really been growing on me as of late. I never really used to like them too much but lately I wouldn't mind getting my hands on a set.
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Post by: 46Tbird on October 24, 2006, 11:24:36 AM
Eh.. big deal.  It was his car and he crushed it.

I can find you five of those cars a week in the $800-1500 range in about that condition.  Maybe better, cars don't rust that bad here in Texas.

I like em too, but... man they made a LOT of them.

I did a quick craigslist.org search for turbo coupe in my state.  Here's all the results I got, and it's all parts you guys are cryin over.  Why don't you go ahead and buy them and ship them up from TX so they don't get wasted? 

http://houston.craigslist.org/pts/213961087.html
http://houston.craigslist.org/pts/221511861.html
http://austin.craigslist.org/car/224847452.html
http://austin.craigslist.org/pts/206654256.html




Or better yet, do a search in your state and see what you find.


.
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Post by: EricCoolCats on October 24, 2006, 12:08:11 PM
I see both sides of the issue here. My old '88 T-Bird Sport was that color and let me tell you, that color hides rust VERY well. And pictures lie, especially over the Internet. The bottom part of the car looks crinkled to me. And it's a pain to store auto glass (I've got plenty of it stored and honest to God, it takes up more room than you'd expect). OTOH, it does appear to be, overall, better than some of the cars I've seen on the road. Still, frame damage is the deal breaker and I believe he mentioned that so...why the continued arguing, I don't know. Y'all want some cheese with your whine? ;)

I'm going to do the same thing next month with my '88 Blue Max V6. I'm removing what I want and junking the rest. Same exact reasons: rusted frame, rusted body, no time to remove a whole lot, no room for most parts. Glass is staying in. Moldings are staying on. Is that going to make me the bad guy too? Or is that alright if I just don't take photos of it getting crushed and posting them on the Internet? Boo-frickin'-hoo, people.
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Post by: 84 Fila on October 24, 2006, 12:50:32 PM
I guess the moral of the story is that is was HIS car and he die what HE wanted with it. It may be hard to accept that it was killed with parts on it but there are more cars out there.
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Post by: P71 on October 24, 2006, 09:42:28 PM
It's not the parts, it's the car. And the previous owner still swears the car was rust-free in the framerails. Parts are parts, the more good stuff stupid people crush, the higher my prices go, big deal. The whining is coming from ripping a running, driving, no issues car for no reason. Previous owner said it had a dime-sized rust hole in the LR 1/4 and the bottoms (front and rear of the tire) were surfacing. Guy didn't even tell him he was going to strip it. $5 says that stupid Chevy pickup he HAD to have the trailer for has more rust. Waste is stupid, be it cars or anything else.
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Post by: CougarSE on October 24, 2006, 10:05:57 PM
I'd a crushed it.
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Post by: Ether947 on October 24, 2006, 10:24:58 PM
Previous owner told me my car had no structural rust either... guess what... rust on strut towers and around the gas tank area and in the floor pans. I didn't see it at first until I started taking things apart. Not as bad as the 88TC but it's bad enough to make me reconcider getting coilovers.  And if I bought another one this one would be going to the ser just like the 88.

Why?

I have no room for it.

I did the parting out of nearly everything I could and I will prolly never do it again. It sucked. I was selling at or near cost to ship and ppl were wanting this little thing and that little thing and it was very time consuming. Not to mention the neighbors don't like stripped cars sitting in the driveway.

Why should he have to tell the previous owner what he's going to do with something he bought? He obviously did not want the vehicle either.

You sir are in the business of storing and selling TC parts, we are not. Try keeping that in mind will yah.

...because your starting to become an ass about this whole thing.
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Post by: Thunder Chicken on October 24, 2006, 10:48:43 PM
Quote from: Aerobird Motorsports;109903
Guy didn't even tell him he was going to strip it. $5 says that stupid Chevy pickup he HAD to have the trailer for has more rust.
Quote from: shays88tc (at NATO)
IIRC he bought the car just to part it out..

Looks to me like the seller knew:dunno:.

And that Chevy might have been rustier (have never seen it, so don't know), but I'd bet $5 that it's still worth more that that TC in ANY shape, has a larger following, and that he can actually buy new parts to restore it...

Look at it this way, Mike: Your parts just became that much more valuable. And just think about the guys that live in southern states - if they want parts they pretty much HAVE to strip rust free vehicles. If they dent a fender, a rust free car has to give up a fender. Shoot, I'd bet Tom has sent prettier ones than that to the syard.
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I can sort of see why you're upset - I am absoluetly in love with the Volvo P1800, and they are very rare (and valuable, a leg up on our cars), so imagine my disappointment when I saw a beautiful example at a nearby Volvo specialist's place, and stopped in to ask about it. He told me he was cutting it up. I couldn't believe it - the car was pristine. The car was purchased in California and brought into Canada by a group of P1800 owners, and they needed parts. Parts for those are even harder to find than for our cars, so they made the only choice they could - they bought one, parted it out, and all made their cars better by the sacrifice of one. I still see the front clip (fenders, hood, nose, bumper) of that car all still bolted together, sitting on top of an overturned 240 in his small s yard every time I drive by his shop (which is on the route to the city from my new house, so it's often...)
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Post by: CougarSE on October 24, 2006, 11:02:54 PM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;109922
Look at it this way, Mike: Your parts just became that much more valuable.

And Mike after your string of reply's it makes you that much more of a Prick that no one would (should) want to buy anything off of.
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Post by: Dogcharmer on October 24, 2006, 11:21:59 PM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;109681
You guys can bust his balls all you want about his not saving this and that, but the facts are these:
  • He has an '86, so none of the glass, or the doors, or the fenders, or the trim, would fit his car
  • He could have offered up most of those parts here in the For Sale section absolutely free and even then it's likely nobody would have taken them. Shipping glass is risky, and shipping doors is extremely expensive.
  • He very likely has something better to do with his time than to strip off parts he can't use, only to be nickel-and-dimed to death when he tried to sell 'em
  • He likely has better things to do with the space those parts would have taken up in his garage or basp00get
It's simple. He bought a parts car, took what he needed/wanted, then got rid of the rest. Nothin' wrong with that...


Amen, brother! I totally agree for every reason you listed. When you've got a car on blocks on the side of the house and limited garage space there's only so long you can keep it around... Especially if you want to stay married, lol.

It's a good thing I cant post pics of the (rust free) TC that I sent to the wrecking yard... It still had all the glass, trim, running engine and good 5 speed. I even forgot to pull the tail lights, doh! But that's about it. Everything else got used on my 87. I do wish I had pulled the side and rear glass and tail lights becase since then I've had to replace a tail light ($120) and a passenger side window ($35).

At least at the wrecking yard it still had a chance of being parted further.
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Post by: Dogcharmer on October 24, 2006, 11:22:43 PM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;109681
You guys can bust his balls all you want about his not saving this and that, but the facts are these:
  • He has an '86, so none of the glass, or the doors, or the fenders, or the trim, would fit his car
  • He could have offered up most of those parts here in the For Sale section absolutely free and even then it's likely nobody would have taken them. Shipping glass is risky, and shipping doors is extremely expensive.
  • He very likely has something better to do with his time than to strip off parts he can't use, only to be nickel-and-dimed to death when he tried to sell 'em
  • He likely has better things to do with the space those parts would have taken up in his garage or basp00get
It's simple. He bought a parts car, took what he needed/wanted, then got rid of the rest. Nothin' wrong with that...


Amen, brother! I totally agree for every reason you listed. When you've got a car on blocks on the side of the house and limited garage space there's only so long you can keep it around... Especially if you want to stay married, lol.

It's a good thing I cant post pics of the (rust free) TC that I sent to the wrecking yard... It still had all the glass, trim, running engine and good 5 speed. I even forgot to pull the tail lights, doh! But that's about it. Everything else got used on my 87. I do wish I had pulled the side and rear glass and tail lights becase since then I've had to replace a tail light ($120) and a passenger side window ($35).

At least at the wrecking yard it still had a chance of being parted further.
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Post by: P71 on October 25, 2006, 10:43:35 AM
Quote from: CougarSE;109923
And Mike after your string of reply's it makes you that much more of a Prick that no one would (should) want to buy anything off of.


You're the biggest prick on this board.:shakeass:

And yeah, that 69 C10 is worth more then any TC or fox TBird, but there's at least 7 of them on my street, dime a frickin dozen.:dunce:

Point is, waste sucks. We all drive old cars because they still have life in them. How many cars are in the JY just because their owners bought a new one and wanted the "trash" thrown out? Wasting a perfectly good, running, driving car is pointless no matter what kind of car it is. He put the pictures up, he should expect a backlash.:beatyoass:
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Post by: cougarcragar on October 25, 2006, 11:01:06 AM
Quote from: Aerobird Motorsports;109969

How many cars are in the JY just because their owners bought a new one and wanted the "trash" thrown out? Wasting a perfectly good, running, driving car is pointless no matter what kind of car it is.


That reminds me. I recently found an old-school Bonneville SSEi at the junkyard. It hadn't been wrecked or anything, and it was FULLY loaded. It even had the million-button steering wheel and power moonroof.
Somebody had already yanked the engine and transmission, though. I assume it had the supercharged 3800 in it.
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Post by: 46Tbird on October 25, 2006, 11:17:10 AM
You can't save em all.

Do the best with what you got and don't worry about what others are doing with theirs.  Trust me, I think some of you have ruined the cars you're driving :beatyoass:  but that's just my opinion. :D  I'm sure a lot of you feel the same way about mine...
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Post by: P71 on October 25, 2006, 11:31:34 AM
"the glass was perfect..it makes me feel bad now knnowing that he was gonna strip the car..i sold it for $1,000 and i cant imagine he made his money back from what he took out"

Previous owner feeling sorrow. :sniff: I know we can't save them all, but this one should've never left.
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Post by: Thunder Chicken on October 25, 2006, 01:05:33 PM
Ok, I think this one has run its course, and like so many others, it has degenerated into name calling and insults. Time to go bye-bye before it gets even worse...:locked:
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Post by: bhazard on October 25, 2006, 01:36:01 PM
http://www.turboford.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=010171;p=1

:shakehead :nkhk:
Title: Beware of the CLAW!
Post by: CougarSE on October 25, 2006, 01:38:27 PM
N B4 Lock
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Post by: Chuck W on October 25, 2006, 01:44:34 PM
Quote from: bhazard;109991
http://www.turboford.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=010171;p=1

:shakehead :nkhk:


That's the other one I was talking about.....:dunce: