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Engine Swapping / Turbo Engine Swap
Ok, I will have to admit I made an error on the dates. I spoke with my mom about her car. She ordered it in late March of 1987, and took delivery in early May of 1987. Her memory is sharp as a tack..she remembers this because she ordered it just before my parents went on a European cruise, and took delivery when they returned. When I am wrong, I will admit it..ok, you guys can beat me up on that one. However, the VIN number is absolutely correct.
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Engine Swapping / Turbo Engine Swap
Sorry, no BS here. My mom DID order the car in late Aug of 1986..The car is still in OEM condition, from the ORIGINAL owner. like I said, ignorance is bliss on here. Just because you guys have never seen a factory 5.0 HO T-Brid you think it never exists. When I go visit my mom (125 miles from me) I WILL take a pic of the dash VIN for all of you to eat crow. Im sure she still has the window sticker/paper work too..In the mean time watch what you say, you just might get what you ask for...
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Engine Swapping / Turbo Engine Swap
Go to the year 1987, and look for all the classifications on VIN breakdowns, and you will see the engine code for "M" refers to 5.0 HO--special build, as in the case for my moms T-Bird. I was there when she special ordered her car in Aug. of 1986 at Galpin Ford, Sepulveda, Ca. (the largest Ford dealer) from our sales manager/friend (at that time) Virgil Kroug. Delivery was 4 weeks later. Virgil, is the one who also informed me of the "off highway" 5.0 HO Turbo Coupe special build cars. When he mentioned the price of 28K, I almost hit the floor and declined. Remember, 28K in '87/'88 was a lot of dough for a car, especially when you can't register it for street use. Also, those cars did not qualify for any financing, they had to be paid in full before ordering.
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Engine Swapping / Turbo Engine Swap
Mr Big Mouth--
The Cougars were sold as a limited run, all were XR-7s, had 1987/88 Mustang GT wheels, 5.0 HO engines, and automatic trans missions. I personally have seen 3 examples. Have you ever actually spoke to Bill Elliott about his career, and his dealership? Not likely. You ever ordered cars from him? Again, not likely. I have met/done Television shoots with Bill many times…you? Not likely. Again, your just blowing out smoke. I have shown proof of my moms VIN number. Balls in your court...
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Engine Swapping / Turbo Engine Swap
Here is the VIN on my moms 1987 Bird: 1FABP62M2HH158XXX. Now you tell me "I'm full of it"
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Engine Swapping / Turbo Engine Swap
Turbocoupe5.0--
It amazes me the idiots on here. I am fully aware Bill Elliott raced Fords. Apparently, you have no clue when you say someone is "full of it" Do your research, and you will see that I am correct. Come out to California, and look at my moms car first hand..I will leave it at that, so you can make more of a fool of yourself.
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Engine Swapping / Turbo Engine Swap
Yeh, Like I believe what Hot-Rod magazine says…I know, I worked on Hot-Rod TV.
Bondos cars were modified versions for endurance road course track use by Jack Roush. The "production" versions (if you want to call them that) did not have the blue printed 5.0 HO engines, 5 lug wheels, roll bars, and such. Special ordered HO 5.0 engines DID come like I mentioned in the LX body with automatics only (no Turbo Coupe bodies), as these were already emission certified/crash tested in use on the same Fox platform, e.g.: Lincoln MK VII LSCs. Also, the 5.0 HO engines only had speed density, not mas air injection, just like the Lincoln's. Forgot to mention, Bill Elliott Ford offered a "special, limited production"  5.0 HO Cougars for sale in 1988.
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Engine Swapping / Turbo Engine Swap
thunder jet…
Oh, boy here we go again…Yes, Ford did offer/sell the "off hiway" only 5.0HO T-Birds. I personally was going to order one in 1988..cost 27K. If you may recall (or not) this topic was discussed before. Bob "Bondo" Bondurant had several Dark Blue T-Birds at his driving school in Arizona at that time. Many magazine articles were done on his cars and how you can order one yourself. These cars were not advertised in the brochures, just like the current CJ Mustangs. They were sold only for off hiway use and came with no warranty. Upon delivery, you had to trailer it off the dealers lot. A bit more trivia thats really not known, '87-'88 Birds could have been specially ordered in the LX body with 5.0 HO engines, only with 4 speed auto transmissions. How do I know this? My mom special ordered one in 1987..we still own it today. Its a hell of a good car.
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Engine Swapping / Turbo Engine Swap
Welcome!
Ford did make available the 5.0 HO in the '87-'88 Turbo Coupe body. This was a special order only "off highway" and came with no warranty. Cost? 27K. Btw, this topic has been discussed on this site before. As for your subject at hand, its best to get ALL your parts from a donor 5.0 car, including wiring, brackets and such. I do not recommend using the 4 cyl. T-5. Others may chime in for more intimate details on the swap. Have fun!
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Suspension/Steering / Will '83 9" drums fit an '88 TC rear in place of discs?
My worthless two cents…
I think you would be way ahead of the game if you sourced an other complete disc brake TC 8.8, rather than Micky Mousing what you have. By doing what you intend to do, that it will cost you more and the result is you have a botched up rear. Just me...
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Lounge / 1967 GT500 shelby barn find
1967 Shelby GT-500s did not have solid lifter 427 cams. Early (first 100 or so) '67 GT-500s came through with 390s (dogs). Then as regular production moved along with the 428 PI with dual 4Vs (way over carb'd) However, its one of the nicest body styled Shelbys built. "Inboard" or "Outboard" headlights were regulated by each states lighting requirements. Most were produced with "Outboards" Also, the GT-350s HP ratings using the 289HP engine was not reduced even though the '67s used cast iron manifolds, where as the '65-66s used Tri-Y headers. The 428CJ made its debut in 1968 1/2 as the GT-500KR. '69-70s dropped the "KR" since the standard GT-500 engine was the 428CJ.
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Engine Swapping / 1985 t-bird 390 swap
Contrary to what has been said on here FEs are not slugs. Go look who has been pretty much dominating the Stock and Super Stock classes since the 1960s..FE powered Fords…especially the 428 CJs. Now to the question at hand…yes FEs were made into a popular swap in the Fox chassis back in the 1980s when again, NHRA wanted to get the then "new" sheet metal Fox chassis into the Super Stock classes with vintage motors. Several racers were very successful with this combo. Engine fitment is easier/has more clearance than the 385 engines. Swap kits were available (possibly still are) and the FE engines are smaller and lighter than the 385 series 429-460s. Good luck with your swap! PS--IF I may add, go with a 428 CJ.
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Misc Tech / rogh idle.....lack of power...then good...
My worthless two cents..
First check to see that all basic settings are correct, and no vacuum leaks, etc. That said, I have experienced your same exact symptoms, and the fix was: ICV (idle control valve), and 02 sensors are most likely your culprits.
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Engine Swapping / Craigslist T-Bird
Turbocoupe50--
With all due respect, you are incorrect. As I posted, you had to trailer it off the lot, and came with no warranty. That means, NOT street or emissions legal. As the other posters agreed, and have seen the articles also. I personally have spoken to Bondo about these very cars and they were used at his driving school on lease from Ford. After the lease was up (1990) Ford took back the Birds and crushed them. Btw, all were Dark Metallic Blue in color.